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I haven't seen Swans since their Houston show this summer, so I have nothing to compare to how they are sounding now.
Here is their setlist from February 20th in Toronto: Frankie M A Little God In My Hands The Cloud of Unknowing Just a Little Boy (For Chester Burnett) I Forget Bring the Sun / Black Hole Man Quote:
For a while early on, Swans were playing The Cloud of Unknowing/The Apostate together. With Swan's releasing the Oxygen single toward the end of 2014, I'm somewhat surprised to not see them playing this. Also, why not record "Frankie M" and release it as a tour only single??? |
Seeing them again at the Glasgow Art School in May with Okkyung Lee opening, cannot fucking wait.
Listening to The Great Annihilator now and damn if I don't believe it's my favourite thing that they've ever done. |
Question for Swans fans: can you highlight the main differences between the recent reissue of Filth and the reissue of Filth bundled with Body to Body, Job to Job. Ta!
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I haven't purchased it, and probably won't considering that I just bought the 2014 LP a few months ago, but I know that it contains mostly the same material. Body to Body/Job to Job is included. I think the main difference is that the 2015 cd reissue contains bonus material not previously available in the Filth/Body cd bundle. The 1982 debut EP is included, but I'm not sure what else is there in terms of little treats or bonus material other than some posters. I'm sure a complete tracklist is available for all editions on the Swans website. |
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Also, I'm sure you Swans fans are aware, The Gate is out, and the new studio album is well underway. I read somewhere that May 2016 is the target. And Gira has decided to retire this version of Swans after the next tour. Sorry if this has been written in the thread somewhere and I just missed it.
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^^^I wasn't aware about, The Gate being out......and now, SOLD OUT!
Looking forward to the new album in May. |
Hey Skuj, been a while. I was just thinking about you the other day when I was like "Oh hey, The Gate is out, I'm gonna order it", then saw that it was sold out, then checked eBay and found it was selling for $125-$150, then said "Mother of shit!" really loudly.
... Who wants to buy a fundraiser CD second hand? Not I. As much of a Swans fan as I am, I wouldn't buy it unless it was going to the band. Maybe if a $50 copy was on eBay, I'd buy it and then send a donation to Gira. But I'm not going to give all that money on JoeEbayUser, so he can make a killing off of one of my favorite bands. But anyway, good to see you sir. |
Why thank you Sir. You know....funny thing....these fundraiser CDs keep showing up at my fav CD shop. I never did get one, preferring the finished (ie studio) product instead. I expect the next studio release will have a DVD of 2014/2015 shows anyway, with similar embryonic versions. Where the fuck is the best Swans discussion board in the world, I wonder?
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Even being years away, I've been thinking about this a lot since reading about it. I hate to think this current lineup would cease to stop recording / touring, but the thought of him rejoining forces with Jarboe is very intriguing......anyone have other thought of what direction Gira may choose? |
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Is there info to suggest that he may be joining up w/ Jarboe again? I would think he'd be more likely to go forward into something new, rather than circling back to a previous incarnation of the band. But I have no idea.. It would be a damn shame if Thor Harris was no longer involved, that's for fucking certain. |
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NO - haven't seen any info suggesting a reunion with, Jarboe......just wishful thinking on my part. Previous in this thread, Savage Clone mentioned that Swans are on a trajectory like never before. Piggybacking on that thought process, I would view Gira and Jarboe trajectories crossing paths in the future as something new instead of a previous incarnation. I totally feel the same about, Thor......wonder if Gira ever considered doing a horn based album? |
That could work. Brass, used in slow tense builds like the trombone in Sympathy for the Strawberry, could be put to great effect on a Swans record.
Of course, maybe MG meant that the end of this incarnation of the band would have more to do with sound than personnel. They've definitely been flirting with the same kinds of concepts since rebooting. Maybe all he means is that Swans are going focus on electronics or make an acoustic record, or something... |
The Jarboe reunion will occur right after Sonic Youth reunites. I applaud this outlook....retire the gang at the peak of their powers.....after many intense years of recording and touring. It cannot be sustained. These are old guys. :) But I want that 4th album to be a 3hr 3CD Motherfucker, mkay?
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I had this very discussion with a friend of mine and to be honest i like Swans current stuff as it is. They don't need a reunion, what they are doing is good
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Eh? Personally I cannot think of a wasted moment on either of Seer or To Be Kind, but My Father Etc was somewaht tentative. I may have said this a dozen times here, but Look At Me Go completes My Father Etc. Gira's decision to add this later on was both brilliant and overdue. ie He must have known that My Father Etc was very incomplete. |
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I think My Father Will Guide me up a rope... is a brilliant fucking album. The ranks above To Be Kind for me. Not above the Seer, but that's because the Seer is the real pinnacle of the trilogy. If this incarnation of Swans was to be compared to Chris Nolan's Dark Knight Saga, the Seer would be Fhe Dark Knight.
I've never thought of My Father... as incomplete. Experimental, unprecedented, yeah. At the time of its release, maybe even a little hard to digest or recognize as "proper" Swans. But that's because it was the start of a new era. It was a beautiful risk that worked out perfectly, and helped them home in on the elements that defined their two most celebrated albums to date. To Be Kind feels a little bit like it could have used some editing. I was moonlighting in a record store when that album came out, and I heard lifelong fans cracking jokes about "Bring the Sun." Great record, but it could have been better. |
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Oh Man I love To Be Kind the most. It seems to "flow" better than Seer for me. Disc 2 of Seer always seemed a little weird for me in terms of "flow", but I dunno...It took me several spins of Bring The Sun - Toussaint to "get" it. I think it is brilliant, and rather unusual for Swans.
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I've been immersed in the Filth 3CD for the last month or so. I may have said this before, but the biggest surprise for me is how similar it is to recent output. I know that sounds crazy, because there are many obvious differences, but the "Swans Vibe" that I've come to know with Seer/TBK is very present right out of the gate. I'm not explaining this very well.
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No, I get it. And yeah, I think you have mentioned this before. And it makes me wonder: why exactly do you think it "sounds crazy" to say that there are similarities. I mean, yes, you're dealing with two very different time periods, "eras," lineups of the band, but it's still Swans. I know a lot is made of the band's various styles and approaches, but the same themes have always been prevalent in their music. It's always been a collage of post-punk, noise, drone, industrial, dark Americana & southern gothic, apocalyptic & psychedelic folk, ambience and sludge. It's no more crazy than finding parallels between Nurse and Daydream Nation, in my opinion. Btw: where are you with your collection at this point? Have you investigated Soundtracks for the Blind? Burning World? Love of Life? Just curious, because I know you were just starting to venture out into pre-2010's stuff when you went awol. |
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Well, we are talking about a 30 year span.....more like comparing The Eternal and Confusion Is Sex.....which would have many parallels haha. I was surprised though because I keep reading about how utterly different the 2010s stuff is from early Swans, and my first thought upon spinning Filth was "no....that's fucking Gira yesterday isn't it?" I have played Soundtracks many many times and I fucking adore it. Took me a while to get my head wrapped around it. Seemed very "everything plus the kitchen sink" at first, but now I hear it as a seamless epic work. Hey....isn't Animus and The Sound two parts of the same epic song? What a centerpiece, separated by a disc change and a short Jarboe piece. I thought that was particularly brilliant. So, other than all the 2010s stuff, I got Soundtracks and Filth 3CD to contend with. I'm definitely going to keep adding to my Swans collection.....they are my favourite fucking band haha......but there is so much to digest with what I already have. No rush. |
Gonna get this real soon. These 2 albums have thematically similar artwork, were released close together, and are bunched into this 3CD. Are they 2 parts of a single work?http://younggodrecords.com/collectio...et-3cd-release
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I exist im just not that interested in hip hop lately.. i also just got tix to the Dead ON NEW YEARS EVE
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Fuck it, I just ordered the 3CD White Light....Love Of Life, and this:http://younggodrecords.com/collectio...eed-holy-money
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Can't stop playing the 3CD White Light.....Love Of Life. At first it really threw me how "song" oriented this is, and how "sweet" it all sounds. A lot of this even reminds me of late 80s / early 90s REM. Blind is stuck in my brain. White Light....is fantastic really, it flows so beautifully. I thought I'd always be digging Swans for their epicness and brutality, but here is a side of them that is totally unexpected and completely lovely. Floored again.
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I wonder if the current "troubles" will delay this next album/tour. TBK was out in May 2014, but details were announced in Jan 2014.
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Michael's playing some solo shows (with Thurston Moore, actually) that don't seem to have been interrupted by whats going on. (Shrug) |
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All of the Australian shows have been cancelled but the London show is still on I think, I have a ticket so I'll let you know! |
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Yeah, please do. Not that I'm going to be in Australia or England or Amsterdan any time soon myself, but I want to know the extent that his activity on tour and in the studio may be affected by what's going on. I see the Australia shows are cancelled now. That's a bummer. |
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