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sarramkrop 04.25.2009 04:46 PM

 

sarramkrop 04.25.2009 04:48 PM

 

EVOLghost 04.25.2009 05:29 PM

Lou Reed is gonna be at lolla

gmku 04.25.2009 06:02 PM

Saw a VINYL copy of Live at the Gymnasum in the record store today. I'm going back to get it. I don't care what my bank account says.

Glice 04.25.2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
Saw a VINYL copy of Live at the Gymnasum in the record store today. I'm going back to get it. I don't care what my bank account says.


I've seen that relatively frequently. I'd hold off if it's above normal-record price.

gmku 04.25.2009 06:14 PM

What's normal record price these days??!!! New LP prices seem to have gone through the roof. I think I saw this marked at around 19 USD--which compared to a lot of new stuff, is cheap.

Do you think it's not worth picking up?

Savage Clone 04.25.2009 06:15 PM

I sold a really nice strong VG+-to-EX copy of VU and Nico (stereo, non-torso, but still very nice) for a couple of hundred dollars recently.
I have a few more, but they're not as nice as that one.
Also, at my workplace there is a pretty pristine original of WL/WH, but the pressing has a giant bubble in it. Like a huge, skipping bubble. Sucks!! I would rather have seen a sleeve scuff than a freaking bubble.

gmku 04.25.2009 06:17 PM

Savage, do you mean original pressings of VU&Nico? Cuz I've got pristine recent reissues of various kinds (stereo, mono, colored, with torso, etc.). There's bunches of those reissues in the store right now, too, for around 20 bucks.

Savage Clone 04.25.2009 06:18 PM

I was talking originals, yeah.

gmku 04.25.2009 06:21 PM

OK. That's very different.

Glice 04.25.2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
What's normal record price these days??!!! New LP prices seem to have gone through the roof. I think I saw this marked at around 19 USD--which compared to a lot of new stuff, is cheap.

Do you think it's not worth picking up?


Well, I personally have enough VU to last me the rest of time, but you seem much more of an audiophile than me. I've seen it around £15, which is close enough to $19, so if you think that's a fair price, you go girl!

If you're taking recommendations from me on a musical level though, there's a Kremer recording of Bach's Sonatas and Partitas that is completely brilliant.

gmku 04.25.2009 07:14 PM

Thanks... that helps a lot... .

Glice 04.25.2009 07:20 PM

In retrospect, I really want you to buy a Happy Hardcore compilation...

gmku 04.25.2009 07:21 PM

I don't know what that is.

Danny Himself 04.25.2009 07:26 PM

Consider yourself lucky.

Glice 04.25.2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I don't know what that is.


 

batreleaser 04.26.2009 11:29 AM

i just got the velvets bootleg box. they sound almost as good on bootlegs and demos as they do on the legendary albums. i love the version of "im waiting for the man" which is played as a dirty as fuck punk song (which it is anyways) but cale is allowd to go nuts with the viola noise. best band of all time.

joe11121 05.09.2009 08:04 PM

I have the s/t album. I think it's an amazing album. Love it!

gmku 05.09.2009 09:05 PM

Guess what I saw today. A reissue of VU&Nico on vinyl WITH the peel sticker, sealed, one of the recent 180 gram issues. I thought about it for a moment, let me tell you. But 30 fucking USD?!

joe11121 05.09.2009 09:30 PM

That's a good deal compared to what it would be here.

gmku 05.09.2009 09:32 PM

But it's just a damned reissue. Record companies are pissing me off these days.

joe11121 05.09.2009 09:33 PM

Yeah. All albums here are really expensive, so I usually just go to the used record store.

automatic bzooty 05.09.2009 10:08 PM

I'd be ridiculously torn whether or not to peel the peel, tbh. Big decisions. Maybe it's a good thing my copy hasn't got that.

Sonic Youth 37 05.09.2009 10:14 PM

NOT PEEL!!!

automatic bzooty 05.09.2009 10:17 PM

But Andy says peel.

Sonic Youth 37 05.09.2009 10:26 PM

Andy also is dead. Probably because he peeled quickly.

gmku 05.09.2009 10:37 PM

So he died from baring his banana?

automatic bzooty 05.09.2009 10:39 PM

oh, true. he thought he was so edgy because he peeled quickly and didn't even bother to look! psh.

greedrex 05.10.2009 03:27 AM

huh i listened to WLWH for the first time yesterday. I was not impressed at all. weird.

mshawkin 05.10.2009 04:20 AM

I instantly loved WLWH the moment I heard it, which was less than two years ago. I'd say it is a perfect rock album, but it defies classification in my eyes. But that's just me.

The Earl Of Slander 05.10.2009 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by greedrex
huh i listened to WLWH for the first time yesterday. I was not impressed at all. weird.


Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
huh i listened to WLWH for the first time yesterday. I was not impressed at all. weird.


White Light/White Heat was my first VU album, and I bought it very early in my interest in "out" music, aged only 15. I don't think I've ever hated an album more. Seriously, I just detested it. I remember just being so angry that I'd been duped by the hype into wasting money on 40 minutes of boring and unlistenably distorted garage rock with only one good track (Here She Comes Now) and one other that was half-way enjoyable (White Light/White Heat). I then thought maybe I should give it one more chance before I returned it to the store in exchange for something less horrible (and I never return albums), and I think I liked it even less.

However, I was working at home that week, and couldn’t go the shop until Monday, and something about it was just so horrible that I decided to spin it a couple more times. I just couldn’t believe that something this lacking in any merit could be loved by so many people. Third listen, I still didn’t like it, but I kind of dug on the riffage a little more and guessed I could sort of see the appeal, even though I didn’t get it at all. I’d also been listening to Neil Young’s electric records a lot in that period, so I think that helped draw some links. Based on that tiny kernel of enjoyment, I kept on putting it back on while I worked, determined to get the most out of it before I returned it, and slowly I surprised myself by coming to enjoy it a little more. About 5-6 listens in it really started to click for me, and after that I just kept on listening until I was completely taken over. I just couldn’t believe I hadn’t liked it before. It’s was deliciously blown out and beautiful and melancholy and arty and transcendent and many other things I couldn’t name at that point in my musical education.

It’s now pretty much my favourite record of all time (I flip-flop between WLWH, DDN and Blonde on Blonde), the record I have listened to the most, definitely my favourite VU, and probably the primary reason I’m in to most of the stuff I subsequently came to love, Sonic Youth included. I can’t possibly describe my love for it, or how much I owe to it terms of my musical understanding. Needless to say, I never returned it.

So I suppose the short version of that is: Persevere, it will reward you for it.

greedrex 05.10.2009 07:28 AM

^^ absolutely. I know. I will.

radarmaker 05.10.2009 07:39 AM

Get a copy of the mono version for the ultimate White Light experience. Best enjoyed through good headphones at ear-bleeding volume :)

sarramkrop 05.10.2009 09:16 AM

Anyone would like me to up the 'Reload -The Second Chapter' bootleg LP? It is all made up of Loaded outtakes, and in a few cases they are way better than the versions on the album, 'I Found a Reason' being one of them.

radarmaker 05.10.2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Anyone would like me to up the 'Reload -The Second Chapter' bootleg LP? It is all made up of Loaded outtakes, and in a few cases they are way better than the versions on the album, 'I Found a Reason' being one of them.


That's all the stuff that's on disc 2 of the official Loaded: Fully Loaded Edition, right?

sarramkrop 05.10.2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by radarmaker
That's all the stuff that's on disc 2 of the official Loaded: Fully Loaded Edition, right?


A few of the tracks are on the reissue of Loaded, but there a few that I'm sure are not. I don't have that version of the record, so I need to check.

The Earl Of Slander 05.10.2009 04:12 PM

"I Found a Reason" is definitely one of my favourite songs from Loaded (which is my least favourite Velvet's LP by a mile, a few tracks aside). Basically that, "Rock and Roll", "Sweet Jane" and "Oh Sweet Nothing" are what keeps me listening to that record. "I Found..." also makes fucking sweet post-sex music.

radarmaker 06.09.2009 01:37 PM

Just seen this posted elsewhere - a newly-surfaced 17-minute Warhol segment from a 1966 WNET TV show that includes slightly more Velvets than the short audio extract that can be found on bootlegs, and in better quality too :)

http://72.232.122.215/episode/show/744

Satan 06.09.2009 01:39 PM

i'm grooving like a motherfucker to foggy notion

radarmaker 06.09.2009 01:40 PM

Do it again.


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