Nope, I stopped at the, um, the 5th ps2 iteration of it, haha. I mean, it's worse than Street Fighter, with all the spin-offs. Then again, when they finally made a sequel, it was like an adventure game...?!


Batman for the NES. LOVE this game, walljumping always impresses me of course. You know, this was the first game I owned for the NES -- and I was always kinda scared by the opening, that jarring "dun dunnnnnnnnnn" as you see Batman flash and then it fades to black and then the title comes back on. Playing it on emulator now, and um, it does that, too, on this one -- I seriously have thought for years there was something wrong with my copy. I wonder what the deal is with that. Very strange.

Anyway, the music is done by the guy who did the Journey to Silius music, which explains the superstrong melodies and very deep bass grooves. The graphics are incredible! So detailed! (also check out Batman: Return of the Joker -- while the gameplay isn't as good, the music and graphics are INCREDIBLE!)

Anyway, I'd never beaten this game before but I got damn close today, got to the last level at least. It's not that hard of a game, just kinda cheap at times (the jumping enemies with the devil horns in the sewer level).

Anyway, worth playing just for some of the precision walljumping -- just fun jumping around. Great atmosphere. Seeing the graphics on this make me really wonder what they could've done on the NES -- looking back on it, SO MANY NES games had undetailed backgrounds, and simple music that mainly just consisted of looping high pitched melodies. When you see this game and Rekka and Castlevania 3, with the high speed highly melodic complex musical arrangements... and the superdetailed dark backgrounds with beautiful artistry... and then playing LITTLE SAMSON recently, which is so gameplay-intensive (dragons flying around, jumping from wall to wall while blasting shit, etc)... I mean, yeah. They really could have done some more awesome things with the system... I mean, I love the NES, but it seems like only Nintendo, Konami, Capcom, Sunsoft, and Netsume (Abadox, S.C.A.T, Shatterhand, Shadow of the Ninja) really took advantage of the hardware.

Oh, earlier in the day, I was playing the hell out of this:

COCORON! FROM THE DEVELOPER OF LITTLE SAMSON!



Attention, everyone... PLAY THIS GAME! There's a U.S. english hack of it, and yeah.

Okay, in the beginning of the game, you choose a head, a body, and weapons.. you can choose, say, a werewolf head (gives you more health), a dragon body (lets you fly), and ninja stars for weapons (versus swords, fire, other things). That alone is cool -- there are about 10 variables of 3 character traits, meaning you can create tons and tons of different combinations of character. Think of Mega Man but you get to choose from the beginning to be part Cutman, part Napalm Man, and.. oh.. part Shade Man (and not just their weapon power, you could float like Shade Man as well!!!)!

Then, some weird ass elephant with a pink umbrella sends you to dream land, and you go from forests to caves and other weird ass locations, shooting the shit out of monsters and solving insane puzzles.

MINDBLOWING GAME!

Guilty Gear ruuuules. So, sick. I have buddy's that rule this shit

playing Final Fantasy Legend III. Forgot how great it was.

how can you live of 200$ for a year???
where is my greencard? hrhrhr

dont like to relink myself, but anyways

whoa

I know, it's creepy.

Cosmic Smash (DC)





Think Rez, meets Arkanoid, meets Virtua Tennis. Yeah, it's kinda like that...

Pretty cool game.

^ that looks fun!


Supposedly there's a DC emulator for the PS3....cun't wait!

I love Pokemon so much.

Heh, I found out about those games a few days ago, Joe, when reading something called the top 10 dreamcast games that matter.

I just bought a brand new dreamcast, and burned games for it -- works great. Replaced Ikaruga and Chaos Field already since I traded those and some other gamecube games and my gamecube for this $1200 laptop! I am downloading SO MANY games... Beats of Rage, 480 Genesis games, like 700 SNES games, Marvel vs Capcom 2, tons of shooters, Jet Grind Radio, EGG, all kinds of awesome shit..

It really is. At first I was a little disappointed, because the game felt too easy, and I got bored. But the game design definitely increases in cleverness and difficulty as the stages progress. It'll get to the point where you'll be landing that last trick to clear the stage with 1 second left on the timer, and seeing the flashy-angled replay is SO rewarding! The game has such an old school heart, yet the graphics are so sleak, and timeless - I love it.

Oh man, DC is the way to go. I'm telling ya, if Keith Apicary ever finds the Dreamcast 2 - I'm hunting his ass down Rambo style.



I recently got a free copy of Yellow version (I had Red as a kid) and I almost fell asleep playing it. It's way too simple of an RPG for me, man. There's just nothing to it. I think the appeal to me when I was younger, was building my collection, training the shit out of my Poke'mon, and demolishing anyone who would battle me. I truly felt like a badass Poke'mon trainer.

Yellow version is especially awful, because it has stupid-ass Pikachu following you around the whole time, like in the tv show, which is the lamest thing I can think of. Why the hell would I want my choice for my initial Poke'mon to be limited from 3 to 1? Then they have me bumping into this dumb asshole every 2 minutes because the game design is so poor that they can't just have the other member(s) of your party instantly wrap behind you, like in EVERY OTHER FUCKING RPG!! Then you try punching the moronic bastard, and all it lets you do is talk to him, and you know what he does??? He pouts!! What a pussy. Fuck that game.




Haha, I just read that article today when hunting down pics for this thread!

You got Ikaruga and MvC2 to work? Did you find a .cdi? If not, what program did you use? Does IMGburn work for DC games? PM me dude!

The Dreamcast works great as an emulator. I have to reburn my Genesis disc though, Zombies Ate My Neighbors freezes at the title screen with the one I have now, and that was the game I was looking forward to most. I haven't been able to find the Genesis version at any of my usual shops, and the SNES version with it's purple blood can suck my nuts.

That's a really good deal you got for your GC though. Is there some sort of abstract sense of value in Indiana? I don't get it. How many games did you have? Damn.

I sold most of my original GC games back when I went through my "I hate gaming phase", and am still rebuilding the collection piece by piece. I love my GC. It really has some outstanding exclusives that still hold up today, and I still feel that it's graphics look smoother than any other system from it's generation. Besides, it IS the definitive way to play RE4 - even Mikami said so! Thanks for that page with all that info on God Hand, by the way.

Rainbow Cotton (DC)













I'm pretty sure I suck at this game. It's lame having to aim at all of the baddies, and steer with the same analogue stick. I keep wanting to do a barrel roll like in Starfox. I think the fairies are trying to guide me Ocarina of Time style, but I don't speak Japanese whatsoever. It's certainly no Panzer Dragoon Orta, but the graphics are really colorful, and playing as a witch is pretty cool.

Why are you so obsessed with pm'ing, Joe? Hah. Anyway, Ikaruga is only 17mb! Of course it works -- why wouldn't it? Just go to dcisozone. I canceled the MvC2 download. I thought about it and decided I didn't really want it, since I had it for the ps2 and didn't care for it. Instead I burnt Guilty Gear X instead, and it's the best 2D Fighter I've ever played. The SNES and Genesis discs didn't work for me.. which ones did you download?

DREAMCAST FOR LIFE.

Also, as far as this laptop -- my friend is rich. I traded him a Gamecube, with a ton of games (and I only had the rarest and best games) and Marvel vs Capcom 2. He owed me like $600. He gave me a $1200 laptop that he'd had for 3 years, so yeah. Good deal for both of us imo.

Anyway, playing

RISE OF THE TRIAD homebrew for the Dreamcast

and



GUILTY GEAR X.. okay, yeah, this is by far the best fighting game I've ever played.

Ha, pbsessed? Na, I just didn't wanna bog this fun thread down with any more technical info. My post to you about burning DC games was like a novel. Plus, you know how easily this site gets googled. If you had some good rips of those titles, I thought maybe it'd be best to keep 'em on the d/l to ensure they remain uploaded.

But, I get all of my shit from EmuParadise.

http://www.emuparadise.org/Sega_Dreamcast_ISOs/1

Scroll down to "Dreamcast Other" for the emulators. They don't have an SNES one. I didn't even think they made 'em since the Dreamcast controller is one button short of the SNES controlller.

My Ikaruga didn't come as a .cdi file, so discjuggler couldn't read it. Same problem with MvC2, and DOA2. Also I've been trying to make a proper copy of Bangai-O. Except it always fucks up my vertical-sync to the point where it's unplayable, whether I choose 50hz or 60hz. I've tried both an NTSCU and PAL copy. I'll definitely hit up DCisozone now though.

Just go to dcisozone and get the 17mb Ikaruga. I fucked up like 10 discs today trying to figure out shit -- but Ikaruga worked beautifully, and it was the first one I burned. Simple as hell. And honestly, if I never get a single other game working -- though I have since -- I'd be happy with Ikaruga being the only game I ever got working for the DC.

Me you and NOISEREDUCTIONS make up 99% of the posts on here so feel free to "bog down" the thread with a couple of sentences. I don't think two paragraphs of useful information is a novel, and it's easy for people to ignore. I get way too many PM's as it is, as soon as I clear them I max out to 50 in a day. I don't mind, but I'd rather just tell people shit in a thread.

I use emuparadise for psx roms but the DC isos seem a bit fucked up compared to dcisozone. I've gotten 3 NON-working emuparadise dc roms, meanwhile I've burned 4 perfectly-working-fine dcisozone roms.

Heh, that dc-scene site NOISEREDUCTIONS mentioned is dead.

NP:

Bought a PS3.

Playin' LittleBigPlanet.

Just d/l'ed

Hey pbradley! Would you mind posting a bit of your opinion on the game? I don't own a PS3, but it looks pretty neat. Thanks.

@ ASP Jet Grind Radio is the shit! I haven't gotten to try Cannon Spike yet. But I can guarantee that you're going to LOVE Mars Matrix!

Holy shit -- I'm getting this..





Beats of Rage: Resident Evil 1 and 2! It's a Streets of Rage/Final Fight/Fighting Force/Double Dragon-ish game, based on RE 1 and 2 with new beautiful hand drawn RE sprites. My 42 year old friend Brian is the biggest Resident Evil fan in the world, I'm going to invite him over and put this game in and watch him go, "Whoa!!!"

Now, ladies and gentlemen, I feel kinda compelled to make my top 12 shooters of all time list...

ahem

My current top 12 shoot em ups (doesn't include "tunnel shooters" like Internal Section and Tempest X, or hybrids like Panzer Dragoon and Rez (or even stuff like Geometry Wars) -- those games would all be in my top 12, but this list is for more traditional titles):


12. dodonpachi (psx/saturn) - Simply one of the most intense games ever. Beautiful.



11. zanacXzanac (psx) - Two great games on one disc. While some shooters are "classic" but feel kinda musty, Zanac never lost its touch. The sequel on this disc is even better.



10. border down (dreamcast) - I played this game on my friend Nathan's old Dreamcast to death, and nostalgia for this classic is one of the main reason I bought a Dreamcast for myself.



9. Chaos Field (dreamcast/gamecube) - One of the most underrated games ever! Almost completely comprised of boss fights, but man, what boss fights they are! One of the best soundtracks ever. Just an amazing game, if you take the time to understand its complexities. This is what's commonly known as a "Gamer's game". Only hardcore fans of this genre will "get" the beauty of this game! At first, I was like "hmm.. only boss fights... huhh.. uh..." but something clicked. Everything adds up to a truly beautiful, one-of-a-kind experience... hard to explain, and challenging as hell. But you need to play it at least once.

Angry Birds (iPhone app)

 

8. radio allergy/radilgy (dreamcast/wii) - Another underrated game, from the creators of Chaos Field. Instead of flying through space, you kinda explore similar territory as the Raiden games, in a sense, with vast colorful cityscapes that you can destroy.. this has the coolest graphics of any shooter ever, a unique soundtrack, and, yep, a sword. Just a supremely fun game.


7. raycrisis (psx/ps2) - RayStorm is fun, but this game is amazing! Man, it's really hard to write good descriptions for these things... "duh, like.. ya shoot stuff, man."


6. g darius (psx) - One epic, insane shooter! Kinda scary too -- all those fucking fish.


5. recca summer carnival (nes) - One of the rarest games ever, unfortunately, but do yourself a favor and get a ROM of this. AMAZING high-speed trance techno tracks (on the NES!) and some of the fastest gameplay ever. Pure brilliance.

4. thunderforce v (psx) - One of the few 10/10 perfect games, I think. Yeah, I personally like the next 3 games on my list a bit more, but this game is, like, the smoothest, most consistent, most game game, if that makes sense. In other words, it's so pure, it's like a shooting archetype, the measuring stick or whatever. It's that feeling I get when listening to an Aphex Twin album -- it's what most other musicians are measured by. Still, too much perfection is a mistake, and while I think this technically might be, all around, the best shooter ever, it isn't personally my favorite when compared to the next 3. But if you just want your mind blown apart, by all means check it out!


3. gradius v (ps2) - I would probably marry this game if I could. Developed by Treasure, published by Konami, and featuring music by the Final Fantasy Tactics and Odin Sphere guy (so, in other words, FUCKING EPIC STUFF HERE PEOPLE!), this is fucking unbeatable stuff. While all previous Gradius games were great little titles, this one takes every single thing that worked and distills it into a beautiful little pot. Just amazing.


2. r-type delta (psx) - R-Type is my favorite shooter series, period -- it's always been the strangest and had some of the craziest bosses (like, y'know, a whole level as a boss; that sorta fun, crazy shit!). Some will choose the epic "R-Type Final", but that game was just way too easy; despite the glossiness, I beat it in a few days, no problem -- one of the easiest shootemups I've ever played, and it had that lame "ship battle" 2player mode (?!). This game, again, does everything R-Type has done well, and did it better. And, it was ignored to no end. I think this game sold, like, 5 copies or something. Seriously. Good job, America!

Before I get to # 1, I'd like to have an HONOURABLE MENTION: ...

batsugun (saturn) - Unfortunately, this is one of the few Saturn-exclusive shoot em ups I've been able to play (which is why Radiant Silvergun isn't on the list, despite me wanting to have played it for at least 10 years now!). I simply don't own a Saturn, but my friend Ryan who used to live with me, did, and he got it (a Japanese Saturn) from a pawn shop along with a bunch of Japanese SNES, PSX, and Saturn games. And, well, if this game is any indication of how good shooters are on the Saturn.. FUCK! Ryan moved out 4 years ago but I played this game nearly every day for probably 3 months -- I loved this thing, and I always tried to get him to sell me his J-Saturn and this game ,but he is so committed to owning "every gaming system ever" that... yeah.. I'm fucked. ANYWAY... this is simply the hardest shooter I've played, but it has fucking awesome huge weapons. Just intense, frustrating at times, but rewarding as hell. Another overlooked masterpiece that probably 50 people have played!

I would say that is the best kind of pick-up-and-play multiplayer game that I've played for this generation of consoles. It's not absolutely flawless but it's shit tons better than the competing New Super Mario Bros. game. My friends and I loved LittleBigPlanet.

A title I've always wanted to play is DEZAEMON...


Basically, you get to make your own shooter! Yep -- draw your own sprites and backgrounds, or edit preexisting ones, all on your Saturn! The graphics are about SNES-/Genesis-quality. Unfortunately, only released in Japan (and, you know, Sony and Nintendo both are guilty of leaving some awesome shit in Japan -- but Sega takes the fucking cake. 90% of the saturn's best titles were Japan-exclusives, and the Dreamcast still had awesome new games coming out in Japan until 2006. Sega of America is just fucking retarded, period. The 32X? ... The Saturn release where they didn't, y'know, tell anybody? Seriously. And they continue to release HORRIBLE Sonic games. Anyway... ranting aside... I am going to have to buy me a Japanese Saturn, since it seems like the shooter system. That reminds me: Did any shooters come out for the American Saturn? Actually, did the American Saturn have ANY noteworthy titles, beyond Burning Rangers, Virtual On, and NiGHTS?! ANYWAY..........

my # 1 pick is...


uh-oh


looks like it's a TIE!

...yep, a tie between Einhander (psx) and Ikaruga (arcade/dreamcast/gamecube). Sorry!

It's like this: I've played Ikaruga more than any other shooter ever; it's wickedly addictive, and I'm a HUGE Treasure fan. At the same time, I feel like... I haven't played Radiant Silvergun (which it is a semi sequel to), so maybe I wouldn't be so blown away if I had Silvergun in my life.

Also, Einhander is simply unique as hell -- maybe the most unique and fun shooter ever -- and is often still overlooked, despite (or perhaps, because of) being publised by Square. You get to shoot gigantic mechs and steal their swords and rocket launchers and attach them to you... and you get to blow up everything, including buildings and big signs, all to the sounds of weird opera music and truly twisted, bizarre electronic sounds.

So, it's a tough call. I think Einhander is the better game, by far, but I think Ikaruga is my personal favorite.

Hope you enjoyed! And since I got this Dreamcast almost exclusively to play more shoot em ups... haha, it's so funny, people were like "OH MAN! SONIC ADVENTURE! SOUL CALIBUR!" Fuck that shit. First thing I did was buy Chu Chu Rockets and SeaMan and then I downloaded a shit ton of shoot em ups.

Why the fuck haven't they made a new mario paint game?!

adam, did you see my GCN Shmups post at rfgeneration.com/blogs/noiseredux ??

I'll check it out, nr.,

btw, jOe, downloaded marvel vs capcom 2 no problem. Just type in marvel vs capcom 2 cdi selfboot and it'll taKE YOu to snesorama probably, there's like fifteen mirrors! Works great.

Odin Sphere gets boring pretty quickly, but it has the best 2D visuals ever.

Here are the games I have for the DC after only owning it for 24 hours:

- Ikaruga
- Psyvariar 2: The Will to Fabricate (one of the best shooters I've ever played!)
- Radio Allergy
- Chaos Field
- Trigger Heart Exelica
- Chu Chu Rocket
- Jet Grind Radio
- Marvel vs Capcom 2 (yeah, I got it again; plays beautifully!)
- Castle Shikigami 2
- Tokyo Bus Guide
- Trizeal
- Karous
- Last Hope
- Blue Stinger
- Cannon Spike
- Elemental Gimmick Gear
- Expendable
- Gunbird 2
- Bangai-O
- Half Life
- Mars Matrix
- MDK 2
- Power Stone 2
- Street Fighter: 3rd Strike
- Guilty Gear X
- Guts Revenge: Sword of Berzerk
- Under Defeat
- Seaman
- Space Channel 5
- Dynamite Cop
- Virtual On
- Crazy Taxi
- Rise of the Triad (PC shooter, homebrewed to be on the Dreamcast)

I burnt a few games -- Border Down (which is one of the main reasons I wanted a DreamCast, since I'd played it a few years back and it was AWESOME; MAYBE I'll have to ask Nathan) and a Genesis collection with 450 games -- that didn't work, at all. I know there are Genesis and SNES rom collections, with like every noteworthy game EVER for them -- anyone know where to get one in .cdi that actually, y'know works?

Any other reccomendations, lemme know, I'm mainly into puzzle games, shoot em ups, 2D fighters, and any game that is kinda strange and fun.

Also, Joe, I've used emuparadise a billion times for psx roms but it's dreamcast collection is sorely lacking. Nearly all the good, working games I've burnt have been because of snesorama. I'm going to look on their boards for a decent snes or genesis collection.

THanks!

Anyway, holy shit, Karous is awesome!




Gonna have to put that in place of Radilgy in my top 12.

Also, Psyvariar 2: The Will to Fabricate would probably be in my top 5.




Unbelievably epic, beautiful shooter.

adam ... Mr. Driller = DC puzzling goodness

I've had Mr. Driller for the Playstation for like 10 years... is the DC version different at all?

Puzzle Fighter II is on the DC also, I was thinking of getting it even though I have the PS version, but I don't think there's any differences with it.