even death valley? ... does that count?

One song she's featured in doesn't make up for her failure to best the awesome James Chance.
They own No New York, no question.

james chance and the contortions suck.

lydia lunch annoys the shit out of me.

i appreciate what no-wave was about but for the love of jesus LEARN TO PLAY YOUR FUCKING INSTRUMENTS.

that goes for the shaggs too.

As long as you like In On The Kill Taker, you're OK with me.


What about Deftones?

Apparentnly you dont appreciate it...

yeah, isn't that one of the... uh... how to put this... fundamentals of no wave? not "knowing" how to play?

I think saying Lydia Lunch is shit is a POPULAR opinion.

Best thing she weaseled her way into was that bit she did with Roland S Howard, but I haven't listened to it in years. I never understand people who write endless panegyrics about her. I was browsing around once and came across this cute thing: http://fagcity.blogspot.com/2009/03/...dia-lunch.html

And then there's this video where she fails to shut down some douchey chauvinist comedian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lXUd7VxuSA

Metallica > Sonic Youth

yup.

let me clarify again...

what i appreciate was that they did something really different and subversive, tearing shit up and all that...some of the guitaring actually sounds brilliant but i'm generally not a fan of too much no-wave these days
maybe it's just lydia lunch. she's bloody off-putting.

(i still like mars and DNA)

this.

I think Lydia has said a lot of intelligent stuff. Not a big fan of any of her music besides Teenage Jesus (which was probably the worst no wave band, though).

lydia lunch needs to stop talking about herself.

yeah exactly

just because you can play your instrument properly (i don't know what that means either..."with some degree of technical proficiency") doesn't mean you have to

and if you can't play it at all there's only one thing you can do and that gets old real fast

lydia lunch is the most predictable, boring person on the earth

I won't naMe any naMes, but that's my main criticism about one awful band in particular.

"Marquee Moon" is a lousy album.

I wouldn't call it lousy. But boring? Yeah, definitely.

Ohh, I got a controversial one for you all:

Black Flag mostly sucks. Some good songs here or there and some weird, awesome riffs in a few songs aside.. most of their material blows.

Oh man, Le Tigre are one of the worst bands ever.

Live Through This is a really great record, though I do think without a shadow of a doubt Kurt wrote that record (Or say 90% of it).

~Jeremy~