Subarra series 2. Vatican/Politicians/Mafia/Roma fighting over land for a port facility

plus, Carlotta Antonelli

the giant beast that is the global economy

on prime video. great--and addictive!

Vatican politics?! I’m intrigued.

Think Mafia is specific to Sicily. Can’t recall the name of the Neopolitan version. Hmm.

camorra

the great british bakeoff 2018





mmmmmm... pretty...

Yah yah tons of that shit in the Sparrow! How could I forget?

this is for the movies thread but if you haven't yet check out GOMORRAH (the film... from last decade). really fucking good. apparently they've made tv shows and sequels as well but i have not seen. the original i'd highly recommend though.

Yes I think we’ve talked about it. Super violent, yeah? I think you or whoever else was involved in the last convo told me not to watch it in a bad headspace. I’m almost always in a bad headspace, or at least when it comes to being easily unsettled by gratuitous violence (especially rape, nonono), but I should get over that.

there was no rape as i recall but it's a quasi-documentary film about crime *culture*. not talking about an "outfit" here but whole neighborhoods and industries and... it's a bit like "the wire" where you see the connections between the small and the large world... and as realistic if not more because it was filmed with non-actors from those parts. yeah it's fucking nuts. but one of those where it's worth the suffering. maybe. mmmmayyyybe...

I've not seen the TV series either but I can't think of anything in the orig. film that'd put anyone off. It's certainly no more violent than any average Mafia/crime film I can think of. Less so in some cases. As symbols says, more about the infrastructure of crime than the actual crimes committed. Really good film.

agree on Gomorrah, one of the best

on season 2 of breaking bad still. a rewatch. one can appreciate so much when free from NERVES.

holy fuck that was a stressful show—one of the greatest, really.

More stressful than The Americans?

That show gave me a hemorrhoid, I think. ‘Murcans, that is.

Goddamn great, though.

oh, i...

you haven’t seen it?

i mean are you really asking or it it more than a rhetorical question?

either way... probably... yes??

but in a different sense cuz... tweakers! and..

ok let me know first if you were really asking. or just, you know, watch it, cuz it was glorious

and speaking of



how is it going with SOA demon?

Of course I’ve seen Breaking Bad. I was just wondering if *you* thought it was more stressful than The Americans, because I remember when I first started watching it the latter, I commented on how ulcer-inducing it was, and you seemed to agree.

I think Americans is more tense. And, frankly, better. But it had the benefit of learning about TV plot excellence from Breaking Bad, so... *shrug*

oh i get what you mean, yeah.

well it’s hard to compare. americans is more claustrophobic. breaking bad is more relatable (for me anyway, living where i live).

i remember breaking bad being so hardcore i could not even watch it sometimes. but this is my second viewing so perspectives change.

one thing is though we still hate skyler lmao. my wife more than me even. she showed me this little graph she found on the interwebs



so fucking true lol

alex trebek has a giant pair of huevos

https://youtu.be/7cInGyxCY9k


respect!

It's been a while since I saw The Sopranos but I don't remember Carmella having an affair.



But anyway. I always felt Skyler was in a no-win situation. I felt myself disliking her because she gets a bit shrill, but at the same time I get why she's completely done with Walter. So I was in this position of finding her annoying because she's an obstacle from the story continuing. If Walter had listened to her, the show is over. So I just kind of wanted her to shut up. But then how can you not sympathize? Her husband is evil.


I can't blame the actress who plays Skyler, I feel like that's just a weak point of the show, and you have to blame it on the writer.



Both great shows, although I'd take Breaking Bad over Sopranos.

skyler is annoying from the get go, when she’ll feed her husband vegan bacon for his birthday, and only the kid will say “this is bullshit”. plus she’s a passive aggressive bitch. cold.

carmela yells and fights and cries and breaks shit— my kind of girl lol. real, and with a heart.

Carmela has an emotional affair with the longhaired dude. Forget his name. He was sent back to Sicily or killed or something.
Also nearly boned the priest.

Never actually had an affair, though. Unless I’m forgetting something.

Tony is a walking affair. More adulterer than husband, that guy.

But yah I love Carmela and hate Skyler. Though I like the actress and I like the quotes I’ve read from her about how her character was received. Forget exactly what makes the perspective interesting, but it’s on that 20 best dramas since the Sopranos list that came out a while ago, under the Breaking Bad entry.

Watched the first part of finding Neverland last night. Grim watching, just absolutely grim watching.

where do you live? Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, something like that?

cool. I think the closest to these areas that I've ever visited was Pueblo, Colorado.

(besides that, I only places in the US that I've visited were Chicago, Baltimore and Washington DC)

There is the most amazing cheese shop in Pueblo Colorado. Spent an hour there tasting cheese. Bought like $70 worth and they packed it all up with dry ice for my trip back to H-town.

I was working a couple of months in Canyon City, CO that is just a few miles away from Pueblo. Canyon City is a terrible shithole, to be honest.

Furio!

FURIO

jeeez....

pueblo i've only gone through on my way to denver, it's the last place going north on I-25 that looks like new mexico. i only know of it because it's a big center for federal government data or something. a lot of federal mail has pueblo addresses.

above pueblo the rockies get steeper and it's more typical colorado-- cooler temps, greener vegetation, snowy peaks, etc... we do get that in new mexico above some elevations but it's not as common.

denver is nice.

What is this amateur hour?! She also nearly has an affair with the vicar in season 1.

Season 3 looks like a major downturn so far. The whole IRA thing in Belfast. Lots of bad Irish accents and just not what I want from the show. But I've read a few reviews saying the same thing and to to just bear with it cos things get back to normal in the next season.

A friend of mine is watching the Mayans MC spin off and loving it.

yeah... the dingo ate the baby, right? lololololol. worst plot twist ever.

anyway it goes back to... normal i guess, but it progressively gets worse as well. just too much of the saaaaaaaaame fucking thing. kinda like the walking dead. i gave up on that one too, after so many seasons.

anyway enjoy the fun while it lasts. some great thrills ahead still so not all is lost. hang in there.

just please keep me posted when you've finally had it :D

For sure.

It's clearly very reliant on a formula so even when things do return to normal I can imagine it starting to run out of ideas pretty quick. But a large part of its appeal so far, besides all the MC stuff, obviously, has just been the feel of it. The location, the whole California vibe. So moving things from sunny Charming to dark rainy Belfast, even if the plot was a little more interesting (and better acted) is robbing me of my winter sunshin fix.

haaa haaa haaaaa
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sYTIGXvc88Y

Yes she nearly has an affair with the priest. I didn't remember anything similar with Furio. I liked Furio.



Vegan bacon? Ewwwww. I understand the hate more now.

lol!! Seinfeld still makes me laugh like little else on TV.

she’s hilarious

season 3 breaking bad on rewatch — im a lot more sympathetic to skyler’s plight right now

(megaspoilers. but everyone has seen this lol)

yes yes, she fucked ted. so. she’s been trying to get the drug dealer out of the house and he would not leave

she’s still not likeable but whatever

btw in deadwood she was not likeable either

Started Last Chance U over the weekend. Quite enjoying it. It's done quite well, imo.

Started rewatching Season 1 of Twin Peaks again. I actually made the mistake and went straight to Season 3 with probably a decade of not having refreshed my memories of the first two when it came out about 2 years ago. Thought I'd refresh 'em now. And damn, it's just as engrossing as the first time around, probably even more so.