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EVOLghost 01.24.2013 01:09 PM

Of course he does. He's like 80.

EVOLghost 01.24.2013 01:09 PM

nevermind.

louder 01.24.2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost
Of course he does. He's like 80.

and he can still pull more beautiful Indian and Pakistani ladies than i would in my lifetime. yes i'm mad.

knox 01.24.2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
in response to your second question: that is enough to let me know how you feel. It does not dictate whether or not I should have said what I said, or whether I was "right" or "wrong" in doing so. That is a very slippery slope you describe.


It does dictate your idea of how much you should concerned with other people.
It also displays a very individualistic point of view, in which your personal desire to do something should be more important to you than the consequences of this thing or how it ressonates with others. Ironically, there's no individuality in thinking that way.

Also, wrong. If you say something discriminatory, it's wrong. If you do something that invades someone's personal space, it's wrong.

If somebody speaks up asking you to stop reinforcing their opression and you ignore them, that's wrong.

No matter how much you try to sugarcoat it in some really twisted explanation of your idea of "freedom of speech" or the disturbing belief that words and messages cannot be acts of violence.

louder 01.24.2013 01:21 PM

jesus christ..

!@#$%! 01.24.2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
It does dictate your idea of how much you should concerned with other people.
It also displays a very individualistic point of view, in which your personal desire to do something should be more important to you than the consequences of this thing or how it ressonates with others. Ironically, there's no individuality in thinking that way.

Also, wrong. If you say something discriminatory, it's wrong. If you do something that invades someone's personal space, it's wrong.

If somebody speaks up asking you to stop reinforcing their opression and you ignore them, that's wrong.

No matter how much you try to sugarcoat it in some really twisted explanation of your idea of "freedom of speech" or the disturbing belief that words and messages cannot be acts of violence.

the marketplace of ideas rejects the totalitarian argument by which your status as a victim imbues you with a moral superiority that entitles you to ban speech

floatingslowly 01.24.2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost
Of course he does. He's like 80.

I'm going to go ahead and add "age" to your horrifying list of 'isms.

You prick.

louder 01.24.2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
I'm going to go ahead and add "age" to your horrifying list of 'isms.

You prick.

"it's gross."

knox 01.24.2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
the marketplace of ideas rejects the totalitarian argument by which your status as a victim imbues you with the moral superiority that entitles you to ban speech


banning speech, lol.
yeah, sorry i come from a world where to say something racist to someone is a crime. it doesn't seem that people feel like they're dying without the 'right' to hurt other people with words.

yet i'm not the one trying to ban speech, seems like it's other people who are trying to tell me i should be silent about things i don't like.
so this "freedom of speech" is just for the one saying discriminatory stuff, never for the one who raise his/her voice.

when i utilize my freedom of speech to tell you how much of a selfish asshole i think you're being, then i'm a totalitarian trying to restrict your freedom?

is it not embarassing to borrow arguments from racist conservatives? just wondering.

i think even you know how much of a fail that argument is.

!@#$%! 01.24.2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
banning speech, lol.
yeah, sorry i come from a world where to say something racist to someone is a crime. it doesn't seem that people feel like they're dying without the 'right' to hurt other people with words.
yet i'm not the one trying to ban speech, seems like it's other people who are trying to tell me i should be silent about things i don't like.
so this "freedom of speech" is just for the one saying discriminatory stuff, never for the one who raise his/her voice.

when i utilize my freedom of speech to tell you how much of a selfish asshole i think you're being, then i'm a totalitarian trying to restrict their freedom.

is it not embarassing to borrow arguments from racist conservatives? just wondering.

i think even you know how much of a fail that argument is.


you can call me a selfish asshole and make all kinds of crybaby arguments, and i may respond in kind, or ignore you, or just skip your threads, but i'm not going to deny your right to say whatever manner of stupid shit you want, even if it's a load of maoist bollocks.

Rob Instigator 01.24.2013 02:36 PM

I guess you are not big on "people-watching" huh knox? Life is very very short, and I think your energies are better served aimed at someone who is actually doing harm, active harm (and there are MANY) than at some guy on a message board talking about how there are so many gorgeous women at the Library.

knox 01.24.2013 02:36 PM

and you can say all that but that doesn't make you any less of a selfish asshole.

i'm not sure about it, but i think you just tried to call me a commie? lol.

seriously, thanks for making me laugh.

my day has been really shitty, and that was the cliche-cherry on top of your argument.

knox 01.24.2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I guess you are not big on "people-watching" huh knox? Life is very very short, and I think your energies are better served aimed at someone who is actually doing harm, active harm (and there are MANY) than at some guy on a message board talking about how there are so many gorgeous women at the Library.


Life is very short to shut up about shit that eats you up inside and makes your life suck.

I find it really tiring how people always get defensive and will go to any possible length to always find excuses for themselves for not trying to be better people.

Poor thing, and you accuse me of playing the "victim" card? We shouldn't be saying anything about the guy who objectifies women with a racist twist, we should be grateful that he's not punching us or something.

The fact that people do worse things doesn't make you right when you do something wrong.

knox 01.24.2013 02:45 PM

Now, if you excuse me, this conversation has taken a whole dark, disturbing new meaning in my mood today as I just got a phone call from a friend who passed out drunk in one of our friends sofa and woke up with two friends touching her breast. Now, if that wasn't twisted enough, I just read an e-mail in which he says he did that out of love and there are many guys who do much worse things out there, so she shouldn't be picking him on him because she's just being "uptight".

Maybe I should introduce him to Suchfriends so they can discuss how "sexual harrasment only happens when harm is done to the body"? I'm sure he'd appreciate to hear that.

And she's also a lesbian and her girlfriend was in the bathroom.

So I'm just gonna go get some beer and think about how much denial sucks.

And how much I wish all the people who try to silence people who actually raise their voices should fuck off.

louder 01.24.2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I guess you are not big on "people-watching" huh knox? Life is very very short, and I think your energies are better served aimed at someone who is actually doing harm, active harm (and there are MANY) than at some guy on a message board talking about how there are so many gorgeous women at the Library.

this. i can't take her seriously at all.

i imagine the trollface every time i read her posts.

!@#$%! 01.24.2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
Now, if you excuse me, this conversation has taken a whole dark, disturbing new meaning in my mood today as I just got a phone call from a friend who passed out drunk in one of our friends sofa and woke up with two friends touching her breast. Now, if that wasn't twisted enough, I just read an e-mail in which he says he did that out of love and there are many guys who do much worse things out there, so she shouldn't be picking him on him because she's just being "uptight".

Maybe I should introduce him to Suchfriends so they can discuss how "sexual harrasment only happens when harm is done to the body"? I'm sure he'd appreciate to hear that.

And she's also a lesbian and her girlfriend was in the bathroom.

So I'm just gonna go get some beer and think about how much denial sucks.

And how much I wish all the people who try to silence people who actually raise their voices should fuck off.


of course to disagree with knox is to support the sexual molestation of unconscious people.

call me a cynic, but i'd put money on this shit being totally made up for the purpose of "winning" this discussion.

floatingslowly 01.24.2013 02:56 PM

I used to think the universe would deal with these people. Now, I just use black magick.

Rob Instigator 01.24.2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
Now, if you excuse me, this conversation has taken a whole dark, disturbing new meaning in my mood today as I just got a phone call from a friend who passed out drunk in one of our friends sofa and woke up with two friends touching her breast. Now, if that wasn't twisted enough, I just read an e-mail in which he says he did that out of love and there are many guys who do much worse things out there, so she shouldn't be picking him on him because she's just being "uptight".

Maybe I should introduce him to Suchfriends so they can discuss how "sexual harrasment only happens when harm is done to the body"? I'm sure he'd appreciate to hear that.

And she's also a lesbian and her girlfriend was in the bathroom.

So I'm just gonna go get some beer and think about how much denial sucks.

And how much I wish all the people who try to silence people who actually raise their voices should fuck off.


Now there is some shit that needs to be adressed! fucking horrible people. I deal with this happening to my friends and my family, and it always makes me sick.

I never said you should not say your piece knox. I just found it to be misguided.

!@#$%! 01.24.2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
I used to think the universe would deal with these people. Now, I just use black magick.


why not use pepper spray, it's a lot more effective

 

knox 01.24.2013 03:02 PM

you truly are pathetic.
fuck off.

Dude McDude 01.24.2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
There are metal boards with less sexism than here.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

louder 01.24.2013 03:03 PM

is SYG just a playground for knox where she can practice acting like a feminist with her unbearable internet persona?

knox 01.24.2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Now there is some shit that needs to be adressed! fucking horrible people. I deal with this happening to my friends and my family, and it always makes me sick.

I never said you should not say your piece knox. I just found it to be misguided.


Do you not understand how twisted/selfish it is for a man (not a woman) to tell a woman is misguided when she's talking about her own experience?

Here:

Mansplain 936 up, 375 down
Despite claims of superior strength in avoiding over-emotional reactions, when a man encounters even one iota of criticism of men on the internet, he must then mansplain why women suck by comparison or must be radical feminists.

Mansplain--to put women down in response to criticism.
Even though Mansplain only points out a specific aspect of what some men do but not in every context, explainerOrMansplainer and Wicker33 were so overcome by the inability to accept criticism and had to condescendingly mansplain how women must be either dumb; (ironically) unable to take criticism (derp!); or should be dismissed as radical.

knox 01.24.2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dude McDude
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?


That not all metal people are SY fans therefore weren't constantly exposed to Kim Gordon's lyrics about women issues.

floatingslowly 01.24.2013 03:06 PM

Perhaps your delicate sensitivities take issue with her aggressive stance, but knox is passionate about an issue that's quite frankly a stain on your species; much as the other debasing tools that have been used to oppress since time eternal.

Rob, a few days ago you railed against people making light of sexual abuse because of it's occurance in the life of someone you know. I reckon you know even more who've been subjected to chronic male-centric degradations.

WHERE IS YOUR RAGE NOW???;

knox 01.24.2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
why not use pepper spray, it's a lot more effective


 


I honestly feel sorry for any woman who makes the bad judgement of getting involved with a man like you.

knox 01.24.2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
Perhaps your delicate sensitivities take issue with her aggressive stance, but knox is passionate about an issue that's quite frankly a stain on your species; much as the other debasing tools that have been used to oppress since time eternal.

Rob, a few days ago you railed against people making light of sexual abuse because of it's occurance in the life of someone you know. I reckon you know even more who've been subjected to chronic male-centric degradations.

WHERE IS YOUR RAGE NOW???;


Thank you <3

!@#$%! 01.24.2013 03:09 PM

knox, if your friend is really in trouble you should probably go help them either a) give the fucking perp a well-deserved beatdown, or b) file a police report and take him to court.

i'd go with a), but then again everyone has their methods.

instead you're here using this story to "win" an overreaching argument against rob the internet rapist. what kind of friend are you?

knox 01.24.2013 03:10 PM

Do you have any idea what happens when you go to the police with something like this? Do you have any idea of what that would put HER through? She's a feminist, so she knows exactly what her chances are.

Because it just sounds like you're living in a different world, where the man will be judged instead of her.
Where his friends will testify against him.
Where she's not going to be questioned for being drunk in his apartment.
Where she has a chance of winning without any physical "proof".

I will see her later, she doesn't want to see anyone but her girlfriend now.

Sadly, this kind of story is so recurring that doesn't even impress me anymore.

louder 01.24.2013 03:11 PM

wouldn't be surprised if she made up that story.

knox 01.24.2013 03:18 PM

Out of some respect for the women in your lives and yourselves, you should take 11 minutes of your life and watch a penis carrier tell you something:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td1PbsV6B80

!@#$%! 01.24.2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
Do you have any idea what happens when you go to the police with something like this? Do you have any idea of what that would put HER through? She's a feminist, so she knows exactly what her chances are.

Because it just sounds like you're living in a different world.

I will see her later, she doesn't want to see anyone but her girlfriend now.


really? one time some fucker neighbor made threats to my wife and she called the cops.

he didn't lay a finger on her--he just got on her face and tried bullying her about a parking space.

the sucker was taken away in handcuffs and later had to apologize like a dog.

yes, i suppose i live in a different world-- in my world women don't see themselves as automatic victims and will stand up to abusers using whatever tools they have at hand.

Trama 01.24.2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
"handy" as in "grabs everything"? Yes.

I nearly have given myself whiplash for all the constant neck-turning, just to make sure that she's still with me, and not stopped, several aisles back, staring at boxes of instant pudding.

Line-cutting.

knox 01.24.2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
really? one time some fucker neighbor made threats to my wife and she called the cops.

he didn't lay a finger on her--he just got on her face and tried bullying her about a parking space.

the sucker was taken away in handcuffs and later had to apologize like a dog.

yes, i suppose i live in a different world-- in my world women don't see themselves as automatic victims and will stand up to abusers using whatever tools they have at hand.


you live in a world where you call the cops and they come.

but also a world where less than 1% of rapists are convicted and where this happens:
http://jezebel.com/5968390/judge-who...o-keep-his-job

Rob Instigator 01.24.2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
Do you not understand how twisted/selfish it is for a man (not a woman) to tell a woman is misguided when she's talking about her own experience?



misguided in that your energy is better spent confronting assholes who touch your friends while they are asleep, not me making a comment about beautiful ladies.

knox 01.24.2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Trama
Line-cutting.


Hum, yeah. Line cutting when you're pregnant, that certainly makes up for everything.

knox 01.24.2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
misguided in that your energy is better spent confronting assholes who touch your friends while they are asleep, not me making a comment about beautiful ladies.


now you're making an assumption of what i've done/haven't done/do with my time? you have no idea what i actually do and that's not even relevant in this conversation anyway. diverting.

"don't complain about something that happens in your life and bothers you when there's famine in Africa", yeah?

floatingslowly 01.24.2013 03:28 PM

Pregnant women in America do not recieve that privilige. She doesn't even get a special parking spot, unless it's in front of 'the baby store'.

!@#$%! 01.24.2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
you live in a world where you call the cops and they come.

but also a world where less than 1% of rapists are convicted and where this happens:
http://jezebel.com/5968390/judge-who...o-keep-his-job

nobody here (that i know of, anyway) is for rapists, or idiot judges, or for politicians who make stupid claims of "legitimate rape".

but asking people to shut up on the internet because what they say makes you sad isn't going to stop any rapists, stupid judges, or idiot politicians.

Rob Instigator 01.24.2013 03:29 PM

In Houston most supermarkets have special parking for "expectant mothers"

Knox, again, you are bringing too much personal shit to something as simple as you being offended by a comment I made. More power to you for helping those that need it.


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