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Finally got the vinyl! As the other solos I think this isn´t also as great as SY-records, but already in the second listening I started to love it! I really like the "Fuck you all"-attidude in album (it´s same kind like Cave had with Grinderman). I think there´s nothing artificial like Thurston trying to be younger he is, he´s just angry old man. And this album really proves me Thurston just do what he wants. When Lee is using nostalgia but sounding himself of the year 2012 in Between the Times, this album really sounds as if it would have been made in the nineties (the name could have been Psychic Hearts vol.2). And it´s kind of weird and amazing! It seems Thurston made a circle, it´s interesting what´s he´s going to do next in his solo career.

Although I don´t believe Lee has thought any commercial things when doing Between-album, there really is a lot more commercial potential in Lee´s solo as this Chelsea album. I don´t believe anybody superficial listener starts to listen Thurston if hearing this. My favourites at the moment are Lip, Sleeping where I fall and Mohawk (the greatest moment of the album, I think it´s first time when Velvet Underground and SY truly meets). Also I really like the 7", the most beautiful song of the album in the a-side & the punkiest in B-side. And in my version there is also CD. I think this album will grow more after more listening, I listened Lee´s Between maybe little over 10 times but I haven´t got any need to listen it a long time. Well, I think I will listen it also someday.

Very hard to say is this better than Demolished, because I still love it also, but I think there´s is no need to say which is better because these are so different albums.

I don´t really wonder why there aren´t lots of great reviews, because Chelsea is so out of this time. The music journalists of today seem to have trend that if the old artists do album they want and not trying to put there influences from the current music, he´s just an old fart (maybe critics are afraid the colleagues say them old farts if they like such an album). I think for example Cale´s latest album would have been better, if he hadn´t tried to put there so much "fresh influences". Of course it´s not totally bad.

Exactly, it is a bit like Thurston's Grinderman, relatively speaking

What the fuck is up with that Anton Newcombe reply?

1. Yeah, they are. Unfortunately. I'm pretty sure you're in denial.

2. Not better than RR or The Eternal.

I didn't like the album at all.

But, then again, I've never liked any of Thurston's solo material, so I guess that's no great surprise.

(Love Lee's record, for what it's worth.)

1. You call it being in denial, but I am a hopeless optimist in general. But same thing I guess.

2. In my opinion, the only good songs are Reena, Incinerate (overrated but still a good song), Do You Believe In Rapture (kind of), Jams Run Free, Turquoise Boy and Pink Steam. They rest either just okay or awful. And personally I have a lot of mixed feelings about The Eternal.

We all have mixed feelings about the Eternal, friend. But RR is a solid album, even if it took several listens for me to see/hear it as such. I don't believe there is a bad track to be found on the album, but that's just me.

Maybe I should give Rather Ripped some more listens before I say my opinion, as it is one of the few SY albums that I listen to more sparsely than others. But my main problem with RR is the lack of Jim. Who is to say that the album would have turned out better if he had played on/worked on it, we will never know. But comparing Sonic Nurse to RR the difference in the overall quality of the album is like night and day.

Not all. I love both RR & Eternal as much as the other SY-albums and I don´t think I´m the only one here. I don´t think the Eternal has greatest production of SY-albums but the sounds are ok, if they never gonna make other album with the same sounds.

I enjoy this record but it does seem very SY B-sidey. That's fine by me, and in some ways I expect that when it's only 1 member of the 4 we love contributing to most of the creativity and tone. I think those 3/5 reviews are about right..it's good but certainly not astounding. Lip is killer, though.

And for the record, I think The Eternal is an awesome awesome album.

the record is quite ok
track mixing it with Lee album and it gives fresh air and a nice pair

No fresh air on this record for sure. It's suffocatingly boring.

have yet to hear it. I am still wearing black armband (metaphorically)

Rob....go see a grief therapist and check this shit out

it's got the skronk.

well, payday is right round the corner.... gotta go purchaseeeee

Rob, don't buy it. It's skronk for pussies.

so you are saying I should steal it from the metawebs torrent-style, and then badmouth it here for all it's pussy-softness? ha!

CLM played a very entertaining show last Wednesday in San Francisco. Thurston was in good spirits and the band sounded great. All solo material of course, mostly from the new album. But it was a fairly short show -- about a 55 min set plus a 15 min encore, done at 10:30pm. And too bad the venue was less than half filled. . .

Unfortunately, unlike at his past shows there, the venue staff did not allow audio or video recording. I'm pretty sure this wasn't Thurston's doing, as there are open recordings from earlier in this tour. There seemed to be some talk about a video crew coming in to shoot the show, which would have led the venue to limit other recording, but I never saw any pro video cameras there. Too bad.

 

Chelsea Light Moving 4 by michaelz1, on Flickr

 

Thurston Moore 8 by michaelz1, on Flickr

A bunch more fotos here:

http://flickr.com/michaelz1/sets/72157633085720324/

I have listened to the stream when it was posted on here. One listen was enough for me to decide it is shite.

*hi-five*

This finally hit my doorstep, and I just finished my first listen. Totally loved it! I was already surprised by how much I enjoyed the four songs that trickled out last year, and the album is rounded out with songs of the same quality. Sounds great - sparse, dirty, skronky, noisy, simple and fun!

I'm sorry I missed their tour, I'm sure they tear this shit up live. I'm glad Thurston put together a band like this, it strikes me as a little more sincere than some of the recent acoustic singer/songwriter stuff (that said, I was sad to see no response to the recent, well thought-out Demolished Thoughts interpretation thread, though I'm guilty of not replying myself - I liked much of that album, btw).

Looking forward to hearing this again. "Heavenmetal" really opens the CD? Odd. I was surprised to see the alternate cover lettering on the vinyl, does the CD still have the white block text version? The LP jacket/art is very nice.

Now I'll read back through the thread and see how much of this was already mentioned...

ultimately my sentiments exactly. I enjoy it less and less with every listen.

I'll happily post tabs of these tunes if anyone wants to do em, btw!

I'm not picking on you, because you're obviously entitled to your opinion (and I'm not actually sure if you're referring to the sound quality or the actual songwriting), but I'm wondering if you're basing this on one listen to a low quality stream?

I found the LP sounded a little mid-rangey and "boomy" (as somebody mentioned earlier in the thread). I hate talking about this because I'm not qualified to articulate it, I just know what I mean...haha. I was surprised though, because I remembered the preview mp3s sounding pretty damn good. I'm curious to check out the flac download (nice option, btw!) and see how it compares to the LP. I didn't hear any clipping (also mentioned in this thread), or at least nothing as obvious as some of the moments on The Eternal, but maybe the digital copy will be a different experience.

I wonder if anybody takes Genteel´s posts seriously. She hasn´t said anything positive ever about new Sy or Sy-related doings here as long as I have been here.

Oh. :o

Genteel is indeed a "he", however as for any women, when he says "yes" he means "no" and vice versa. I take it that he loves late SY, solo Thurston and CLM.

I noticed Thurston's publishing is under Older Poets With Messy Lives and not Feminist, Religious.

Not sure what I would have thought of the album had I heard the sequence that begins with "Heavenmetal", but I think "Lip" is a killer opener for the LP.

I got this vinyl yesterday and after two rounds my thoughts are:

The cover art is beautiful. Lots of interesting pictures to discover while listening to the album.

Music is great! Band sounds bit heavier/thicker than Sonic Youth did and grooves (almost) equally. Style reminds me of Psychic Hearts and The Eternal. While this is titled as a band album, Thurston dominates every song with his vocals and guitar, so this could easily be his solo album, like "Thurston Moore: Chelsea Light Moving". My favorite tracks so far are Empires of Time, Alighted, Burroughs and Frank O'Hara Hit.

The bonus 7" is also ok. Suprisingly there came also CD with vinyl, but I haven't checked it yet.

Is he writing these songs with Wood, Lubelski and Moloney? which may be why its not Feminist Religious which I think was strictly his writing.


I agree with Lip... the cd is sequenced somewhat oddly together.

It credits all the songs to Thurston Moore, so I'm not sure. There's no publishing credit on Demolished Thoughts.

The songs sounded to me really unworthy of further listening based purely on one listen and there's not going back here. As you mentioned, we are entitled to our own opinion. The fidelity of preview mp3s is too often used as an excuse to investigate further on records that aren't worth the effort at all. This is one of those cases for me. The songs are rubbish, whichever bitrate you listen to them at. Besides, the nature of this album certainly has none of the subtleties required for more patient listening sessions. It's Thurston Moore's band we are talking about, remember. The man himself hates mp3s, whether they come in high or low quality.

So that there aren't any misunderstandings, I appreciate you are a dedicated fan and all the work you do for the band. I still don't think that this should influence any critical opinions on the output of Sonic Youth or any of their members from other fans. You could argue that I'm not even pointing out why I so dislike the record in detail, and you'd be right. Familiarity with the culture surrounding the band taught me that it's not going to take me or you anywhere if I detailed why they've lost it a long time ago other than exchanging tedious replies on a music forum.

I was just curious if you were criticizing the sound quality or the songs themselves based on the single listen. There's plenty of music in the world so I certainly don't fault you for moving on if it didn't interest you!

I gave the LP a spin last night to get ready for tonight....half of the album felt...empty. I'm getting that sonic groove Thurston always does...but man....kind of sounds like shit without the rest of the band sometimes. Alighted and Burroughs are wicked tracks for sure.

I think the word is elements. One person can only conjour up so many elements. We are used to listening to albums with many people involved so when you hear a project with only one principle person it sounds sparse.