louder is a pretty bitch.

Killer Mike fucking killed it, not digging Ab-Soul though, which is a letdown because Kendrick Lamar is so good

I'm going to have to disagree here. I am no newbie, but Masta P is like a bad TV sitcom; great marketing, but that's about it. I'm afraid I tend to write him off. Not out of a bias for boisterous rappers, but because I respect hip-hop as an artform. Frankly, I think even Puff Daddy (using old moniker, because "P Diddy" is more relevant to the business world than to music) had more musical chops than Mr. P.

I can get on board with most of your opinions about hip-hop, but repping the "No Limit Soljas" of the late '90s is just a bit too much for me. Sorry.

For the record, Puff Daddy is a giant tool who's greatest and only respectable achievement was being part of Biggies rise to fame. He's a Vh1 reality douche, and his fragrances and clothing lines are an affront to good taste. Costume accessories for people who want to be douchebags for Halloween.

i just dropped a few names and that lead people to catch feelings, sorry. my point was basically, rappers don't always have to be the most technically gifted to make memorable records (though if you look at my top 25, i actually think you'll only find above average rappers..).

i like the two Biggie albums, Diddy's debut and especially Ma$e's debut. plus his team did most of the production on American Gangster. that's about it. but yeah, Diddy is ignorant as fuck, a snake and probably not a very good rapper. but he's funny, and his impact on hip-hop/R&B is overlooked. :rolleyes:

weekly would be too much, but monthly might be a good idea. the next few months are going to be very interesting (so you better get your ass to hear some of these upcoming projects, NR!!). and btw i'm a guy lol, though i suppose my avatar can be deceiving.


lol :o

you're on to something... I don't know if Corman is exactly it. The thing about P is that he just basically was like "ok this is what's hot this year, so I'm gonna mimmic it." He's like renting Snakes On A Train from Blockbuster instead of seeing Snakes On A Plane in the theater. It's still amusing, just not quite as good.

Oddly, I actually kind of enjoy his personality. It's fun to watch him interact with people. He's strangely compelling. Ah... I'm probably condemning myself here, but it's perfectly sensible. I just can't explain it.

I mean he's obviously a total douche (he's not "cool" to any demographic, and- really- who the fuck listens to BadBoy anymore anyway? Do you know anybody who listens to anyone on BadBoy? I don't) but you get the sense that he know he's a douche and is playing it up.

I thank him for Biggie. Specifically the cheeseball production on "Juicy," which is all the more awesome for its cheesiness. But yes, he's an awful rapper and a media manipulator of the highest degree. I don't even know if he "makes music" anymore. Occasionally I pass a Sean-Jean fragrance in the mall and am shocked that anyone would pay such an outrageous price for a product of such embarrassing origin. That's all he is to me at this point. Now that I don't have a tv to watch Vh1 on, that is.

Here's how I see it:

Puffy is the kind of celebrity who stars in his own reality shows.

Masta P is the kind of celebrity who sometimes shows up on a judging panel for America's Got Talent.

They're both trash, but at least Puffy has something of a legacy.

P. Diddy made his money aping old radio hits (without a hint of originality added) and getting mediocre rappers (and one great one) to spit meaningless shit over them.

He gave hip hop a bad name that it still has a hard time recovering from

pretty much agree.

Puffy interludes on albums always bring the lulz tho.
not that Birdman or any other greedy motherfucker don't.

also, no love for Mase here? he used to be so dope.

Kendrick is a better MC, indeed. Ab-Soul's album is solid though, the dark vibe and introspective subjects he addresses hit the right spot for me. Schoolboy's album is very good too.

i'd say, Kendrick > Schoolboy >>> Ab-Soul.

No. No love for Ma$e. Though he was better by far than Mr. Diddy.

I admit that I still hum the shit out of the big singles from that era, whether they're truly great hip hop or not. But man what a change it was for the hip hop Zeitgeist. We went from the Chronic and Doggystyle to that.

Biggies death was more lucrative for Puffy than Kurt's was for Courtney. Poor bastard. Led to more bad music too.

(Btw: "Diddy" is recognized as a word by my autocorrect. That's unsettling)

haha well you see, his laid back flow is kinda why i like him.

Ma$e fucked so many underage girls and their mommas and ate so much shit outta Diddy's buttvalley that he had to flip out and get all supa church, to try to atone for his sick twisted satan shit and maybe not go to hell and fuck man

fuck BOTH those assholes

The best thing about 50 cent is how Scottish people say his name

FUFTEH! FUFTEH! IN DA CLUB YA CUNT!

trapped in the closet?

"what da fuck are you tryin to say about the closet?"