Sleeping Around is indeed terrible. It's not even relevant to Thurston, as a married man.

Okay I know there's a lot of pumpkins hate on here so I'm gonna do their main albums...

Gish:

1. I Am One - 5/5 -> Cool opener
2. Siva - 5/5 -> Great song
3. Rhinoceros - 5/5 -> Another good one
4. Bury Me - 5/5 -> Awesome
5. Crush - 4/5
6. Suffer - 5/5 -> Cool
7. Snail - 4/5
   
8. Tristessa - 3/5
9. Window Paine - 4/5
10. Daydream - 5/5 -> Really dig D'arcy's vocals
11. I'm Going Crazy - 2/5

Siamese Dream:

1. Cherub Rock - 4/5
2. Quiet - 5/5
3. Today - 2.5/5
4. Hummer - 5/5
5. Rocket - 3/5
6. Disarm - 5/5 -> Real nice
7. Soma - 5/5 -> Probably my favourite on the album
8. Geek U.S.A. - 4.5/5
9. Mayonaise - 4.5/5
10. Spaceboy - 4/5
11. Silverfuck - 4/5
12. Sweet Sweet - 4.5/5 -> Simple, and very well done
13. Luna - 3.5/5

MCIS:

1. Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness-3/5
2. Tonight, Tonight-4.5/5 -> one part irritates me
3. Jellybelly-3.5/5
4. Zero-5/5 -> Great song
5. Here Is No Why-4.5/5
6. Bullet With Butterfly Wings-4/5 -> good, but overrated
7. To Forgive-4/5
8. Fuck You (An Ode To No One)-4/5
9. Love-3/5
10. Cupid De Locke-2/5 -> Better live
11. Galapogos-5/5 -> probably my favourite from the albums
12. Muzzle-4.5/5
13. Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans-4/5
14. Take Me Down-0.5/5 -> can't give james a 0, at least he's trying...
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1. Where Boys Fear To Tread-5/5 -> Awesome
2. Bodies-4.5/5 -> Again, much better live, but still very good.
3. Thirty-Three-5/5
4. In The Arms Of Sleep-3.5/5
5. 1979-3/5 -> TOO OVERRATED!
6. Tales Of A Scorched Earth-0/5 -> I put 2/5 on my first one, yeah right...
7. Thru The Eyes Of Ruby-4/5
8. Stumbleine-4/5
9. X.Y.U.-4.5/5
10. We Only Come Out At Night-1/5
11. Beautiful-4/5 -> Most people overlook this track, i like it.
12. Lily (My One And Only)-2/5
13. By Starlight-5/5 -> Nice
14. Farewell And Goodnight-4/5 ->disappointed by james on his first song, but he does well on this one. d'arcy and billy sound good too.

Adore:

1. To Sheila - 5/5 -> Nice
2. Ava Adore - 4/5
3. Perfect - 4/5
4. Daphne Descends - 5/5 -> I think it's pretty cool
5. Once Upon a Time - 3.5/5
6. Tear - 3/5 -> Amazing live video of it on youtube, studio isn't as good.
7. Crestfallen - 5/5
8. Appels + Oranjes - 0/5 -> Probably one of their worst songs
9. Pug - 3/5
   
10. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete - 3/5
11. Annie-Dog - 1.5/5
12. Shame - 1/5
13. Behold! The Night Mare - 4/5
14. For Martha - 5/5 -> Amazing, in every way, pointless part at the end though
15. Blank Page - 3/5
16. 17 - 1/5 -> an attempt at experimental music??

Machina:

1. The Everlasting Gaze - 3/5
2. Raindrops + Sunshowers - 1/5 -> Not good
3. Stand Inside Your Love - 5/5 -> Actually a very good track
4. I of the Mourning - 1/5 -> Radio, Radio, Radio, Kill me
5. The Sacred and Profane - 1/5
6. Try, Try, Try - 5/5 -> Very Nice
7. Heavy Metal Machine - 0/5 -> Excuse me while I vomit
8. This Time - 1.5/5
9. The Imploding Voice - 1/5
10. Glass and the Ghost Children - 3.5/5
11. Wound - 2/5
12. The Crying Tree of Mercury - 2.5/5 -> terrible on here, but amazing on If all goes wrong
13. With Every Light - 3/5
14. Blue Skies Bring Tears - 4/5
15. Age of Innocence - 3/5

*I'm not doing Machina 2, but it is a pretty decent album

Zeitgeist:

1. Doomsday Clock - 4/5 -> Made the album seem interesting
2. 7 Shades of Black - 2/5
3. Bleeding the Orchid - 3/5
4. That's the Way My Love is - 4/5 -> another good track
5. Tarantula - 3.5/5 -> A nice track
6. Starz - 2/5 -> Annoying as fuck
7. United States - 3/5 -> Use to like it much more
8. Neverlost - 1/5
9. Bring the Light - 5/5 -> Best song on the album
10. (Come On) Let's Go! - 2/5 -> This "Come on" thing he's doing in a bunch of new songs is pissing me off
11. For God and Country - 1/5
12. Pomp and Circumstances - 1/5

Bonus on Zeitgeist:

1. Death from Above - 2/5
2. Stellar - 2.5/5
3. Zeitgeist - 5/5 -> Awesome! Better than any other song on the real album
4. Ma Belle - 3/5

Your ratings on Mellon Collie are all out of whack.

And "The Imploding Voice" only gets a 1?

Boris - Smile

1. Flower, Sun, Rain - 5
2. BUZZ-IN - 4
3. Laser Beam - 4
4. Statement - 4
5. My Neighbour Satan - 5
6. Ka Re Ha Te Ta Sa Ki - No Ones Grieve - 5
7. You Were Holding an Umbrella - 5
8. ... - 5

Ghost - Ghost

1. Sun is Tangging - 5
2. Guru in the Echo - 5
3. Moungod Te Deum - 3
4. I've Been Flying - 5
5. Ballad of Summer Rounder - 5
6. Moungod Asleep - 4
7. Moungod Radiant Youth - 4
8. Rakshu - 4.5

I don't like mellon collie all that much, and to be honest, i don't really remember the imploding voice, all i remember is that machina wasnt the greatest album. I only remember half of the tunes from it.

What would you MCIS be?

MCIS:

1. Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness-2/5
2. Tonight, Tonight-4/5
3. Jellybelly-5/5
4. Zero-4/5
5. Here Is No Why-5/5
6. Bullet With Butterfly Wings-3/5
7. To Forgive-4.5/5
8. Fuck You (An Ode To No One)-4/5
9. Love-3/5
10. Cupid De Locke-4/5
11. Galapogos-4/5
12. Muzzle-5/5
13. Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans-5/5
14. Take Me Down-1/5

1. Where Boys Fear To Tread-4/5
2. Bodies-4.5/5
3. Thirty-Three-3/5
4. In The Arms Of Sleep-4.5/5
5. 1979-3.5/5
6. Tales Of A Scorched Earth-3/5
7. Thru The Eyes Of Ruby-5/5
8. Stumbleine-3.5/5
9. X.Y.U.-4/5
10. We Only Come Out At Night-4/5
11. Beautiful-4/5
12. Lily (My One And Only)-5/5
13. By Starlight-5/5
14. Farewell And Goodnight-3/5

Almost all of Pavement's songs have fucked up lyrics. That's why I like them.

http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sho...307#post330307 :D

My ratings :

Siamese Dream :

1. Cherub Rock -4
2. Quiet - 4.5
3. Today - 4
4. Hummer - 5 (I love it, one of my favorite songs to play along to)
5. Rocket -3
6. Disarm - 5
7. Soma - 5
8. Geek U.S.A. -3.5 for the beginning, 5 for the amazing break (so 4.25 on the whole then)
   
9. Mayonaise - 5
10. Spaceboy - 5
11. Silverfuck - 4.5 (rocks better live)
12. Sweet Sweet - 4
13. Luna - 5 (I've heard a crappy live version, studio is better)

Adore :

1. To Sheila - 5
2. Ava Adore - 5
3. Perfect - 3
4. Daphne Descends - 5
5. Once Upon a Time - 4.5
6. Tear - 5
7. Crestfallen - 5
8. Appels + Oranjes - 5
9. Pug - 5
   
10. The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete - 5
11. Annie-Dog - 3.5
12. Shame -5
13. Behold! The Night Mare - 5
14. For Martha - 5
15. Blank Page -5 (sounds like an attempt at crossing Satie and Brian Wilson, successful for me)
16. 17 - 4

I like that song (even if there's something awkward about it indeed - the too direct reference to Joy Division's Transmission maybe), the guitars remind me of Jeff Buckley's Nightmare by the sea.

This is my least favourite on the album. It was actually their first song where i though, oh god!

Scuse me whilst I kiss the intolerance, but Smashing Pumpkins? Jesus wept!

Anyway, enough of my big mouth - here's me rating the hunks, and by that, I mean a Whitehouse LP - "Right To Kill", in fact:

Dedicated to Dennis Nielsen - Hmm, not as good as "Ripper Territory" - 3/5
Cock Dominant - A toe-tapping number live, here it's not so fab - 3/5
Tit Pulp - Ah, the joys of the P Best/M Dowd love-fest - 4/5
Gilles Des Rais - What could have been a monster track is a bit of a let-down - 2.5/5
Pro-Rapist - Hmm, pretty meh really - 2/5
Death Penalty - Pure Genius - 5/5
The Street Cleaner - Loses points for the too-quiet vocals - 3.5/5
Bloodfucking - Hey, isn't this an SJ number?...It is! 4/5
Queen Myra - Genuinely chilling - 5/5
New Sadist - Brilliant - 5/5
Right to Kill - the bit towards the end is a real affecting moment - 5/5

hmm...i would take 'sleepin around' over 'lights out' or 'or' anyday...in fact i kinda like the song, in all of its silliness

Eh. I think it's at least decent. I would rather listen to it than Zero at the moment, just cuz it's a little overplayed.

all the time-zzz/5
such a joke-zzzz/5
wild eyes-1/5
going insane-zzzzzz/5
tell the world-0.5/5
where do you run to-.75/5
damaged (black flag version)-4/5
no-no/5
never see me again-ugh/5
i believe in nothing-you decide/5

7~ (EWE Remix)-3/5
7->(Boriginal)-5/5
7+(EYE Remix)-3/5

MACHINA
The Everlasting Gaze - 2.5/5
Raindrops + Sunshowers - 4.5/5
Stand Inside Your Love - 4/5
I of the Mourning - 5/5
The Sacred and Profane - 3/5
Try, Try, Try - 2.5/5 (I prefer the MACHINA II version)
Heavy Metal Machine - 2/5
This Time - 4/5
The Imploding Voice - 4/5
Glass and the Ghost Children - 3.5/5
Wound - 4.5/5
The Crying Tree of Mercury - 5/5
With Every Light - 5/5
Blue Skies Bring Tears - 5/5
Age of Innocence - 5/5

...my favorite Pumpkins' album.

Also, I don't think 1979 is overrated. It's a 5/5 for me!

You said it! The Machina II version is one of my favorite SP songs. I even put it on the mix I gave to my wife when we first met.

Production on Machina was so terrible, ruined the Pumpkins for me.