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Derek 08.16.2007 09:00 AM

I thought Moe Tucker was deceased?

Anyway, I obtained Loaded a few weeks ago and I love the pop feel to it, it's a nice change.

Glice 08.16.2007 09:37 AM

 


I just stared at this for far too long.

Cantankerous 08.16.2007 09:49 AM

not my fault.

Glice 08.16.2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
not my fault.


Well, you're going to have to take the blame for something m'dear, and if it's not that picture then I'm afraid that it is entirely your fault that u2 exist. FACT.

Cantankerous 08.16.2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Well, you're going to have to take the blame for something m'dear, and if it's not that picture then I'm afraid that it is entirely your fault that u2 exist. FACT.

fair enough, i suppose i've done enough damage around these parts that it's only logical for me to take the fall for that one.

Glice 08.16.2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
fair enough, i suppose i've done enough damage around these parts that it's only logical for me to take the fall for that one.


I hope where you say 'parts' above refers to your lower-torso rather than this board.

Cantankerous 08.16.2007 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
I hope where you say 'parts' above refers to your lower-torso rather than this board.

in your sweet dreams.

king_buzzo 08.16.2007 02:47 PM

Guys, uhh, how come record stores dont have a lot of VU stuff? I mean, here, theres nothing, in holland theres only the first one, i mean, wtf...

Norma J 08.16.2007 05:36 PM

You don't want the 'first one'?

sarramkrop 08.17.2007 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_buzzo
Guys, uhh, how come record stores dont have a lot of VU stuff? I mean, here, theres nothing, in holland theres only the first one, i mean, wtf...


Are you seriously saying that in the whole of Holland they haven't got any VU records apart from the first one? It's really hard to believe, and in fact I don't.

king_buzzo 08.17.2007 03:59 AM

well, sorry, that was a dumb thing to say, i meant local stores didnt have them, which is 2 stores and they've got loads of other forgoten records and stuff.

norma, i've got it, how could anyone not want it?

fugazifan 08.17.2007 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_buzzo
well, sorry, that was a dumb thing to say, i meant local stores didnt have them, which is 2 stores and they've got loads of other forgoten records and stuff.

norma, i've got it, how could anyone not want it?

go to Concerto in amsterdam, its a fine fine record store...

i just listened to WLWH for the billionth time, brilliant!

sarramkrop 08.17.2007 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_buzzo
well, sorry, that was a dumb thing to say, i meant local stores didnt have them, which is 2 stores and they've got loads of other forgoten records and stuff.

norma, i've got it, how could anyone not want it?

Can you not ask the person behind the counter to order it for you?

Glice 08.17.2007 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Can you not ask the person behind the counter to order it for you?


Surely it's much easier to complain?

On that note, I had the chappy in the town my parents live who runs a really banal record store for locals order in the MIA album at, apparently, quite a degree of effort on his part. Being OOP he rang around a few friends' stores to see if anyone had any copies on their shelves. Good work, record store clerk.

king_buzzo 08.17.2007 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Can you not ask the person behind the counter to order it for you?


yes, but it just confused me how none of the other cds were in the shops.

Norma J 08.17.2007 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_buzzo
norma, i've got it, how could anyone not want it?


That's why I was asking.
It's a fantastic record.

sarramkrop 09.26.2007 12:06 PM


 
MANUALI ROCK - VELVET UNDERGROUND
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Arcana Editrice
Interwiew and excerpts from fanzines and magazines.





If you find it, this book has some of the weirdest early Velvet Underground interviews available to read. On one young Cale and Reed talk about how they got into selling their faces to some trashy magazines that would report about fake stories of murderers and rapists. Cale mentions that himself ended up having his photograph on a fake article about a crazy killer who would rape his victims in a stable in the middle of the night. Other interviews have Cale and Reed talking about making music using signals emanated by automatic doors etc. Good stuff.

gmku 09.26.2007 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_buzzo
Guys, uhh, how come record stores dont have a lot of VU stuff? I mean, here, theres nothing, in holland theres only the first one, i mean, wtf...


There's scads of factory-sealed 180-gram and colored pressings of almost their whole catalog here at a place called Manifest. I've seen their stuff all over, actually, on CD and vinyl, new.

sarramkrop 09.30.2007 07:48 AM

The Velvet Underground: Loaded


by Lenny Kaye
http://crawdaddy.wolfgangsvault.com/...e.aspx?id=3176

Hello Velvet Underground Collectors:


Here is a link to a Beverly Hills High School yearbook from 1969 I am selling which shows the Velvet Underground in their high school assemblies spread. The year they performed, the school also hosted Hakim Jamal (Malcolm X's cousin) and the writer James Baldwin. In the pics you can see the band sitting on folding chairs in the gym, waiting to perform. Very interesting piece of history.


Thanks,
LISA
ebay id: citymouseart
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140160157457&ssPa geName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=004

sarramkrop 09.30.2007 08:15 AM

This has just been sold in the US thought it might be of interest to all you die hard collectors..

A test pressing of the Velvet Underground's album "Loaded" from the personal collection of their late, great guitarist, Sterling Morrison. We obtained this directly from a member of Sterling's family, and it is about as unique a VU item as one could ever hope to find. In VG condition, the lip of this disc has a tiny warp from a fire at Sterling's in-law's house, where his collection was stored. It plays fine when tracking at 2 grams.
 

 

http://akson.sgh.waw.pl/~kg23187/php...pic.php?t=1795

sarramkrop 10.08.2007 01:05 PM

ANGUS MACLISE: MASTER OF SYNTHESIS
by René van der Voort

There is a story that when the Velvet Underground got an offer for their first paid gig, Angus MacLise reacted by saying: "You mean we start when they tell us to and we have to end when they tell us to? I can't work that way." After which he left.

It might be a myth but it shows a glimpse of the person he was, a true free spirit and a highly individual multitalented artist. Appearing in and out of a set of creative environments, never staying long enough to get noticed by a broader public. A well kept secret whose genius was only recently revealed, in part, through a string of excellent CD's on the Quakebasket/Siltbreeze label.
However, as early as 1988, Fierce Records (an independent label dealing mostly in loonies like Sky Saxon and Charles Manson) released a single by Angus. The Trance 7" was wrapped in a fantasy package, included were a chocolate bar, incense, rolling paper and an order form for fake memorabilia. On the record was an excerpt of Angus' comment on an Indian ceremony. Sadly Fierce blew it all by stating in an interview with Strange Things Magazine: "He used to record a lot of stuff but unfortunately most of it was quite boring. Our record is everything you want to listen to."
How wrong can you be?
Most people first heard of Angus MacLise because of his connection with the Velvet Underground. Further investigation reveals that he also has been a founding member of the Theatre of Eternal Music, worked in multimedia and the Fluxus movement, designed his own calligraphy, was a mystical poet, an actor, publisher, bookshop owner and world traveller.
MacLise was born in Bridgeport, Connecticut on March 4, 1938. At school he developed an interest in music, especially percussion and took lessons in Latin drumming. He studied jazz technique, medieval European dance music and free form percussion.
During his schooldays he befriended the poet Piero Heliczer with whom he moved to Paris in the late fifties to establish the Dead Language Press. They published Angus' early poetry: Imprimatur 1281 and Straight Farthest Blood Towards.
The composer LaMonte Young found a copy of the letter and was immediately fascinated by the quality of the carefully constructed poetry. A well-directed stream of consciousness with surrealistic overtones.
When Angus returned to the States he was invited to play in the LaMonte Young Trio besides working at a number of Fluxus events with Yoko Ono, Composer Henry Flynt and "chance" poet Jackson MacLow.
In 1962 the Dead Language Press (now located in New York) issued a new publication by Angus, the calendar poem Year. It provided new names to each of the 365 days, a work of fiction that offered a different way of thinking about everyday life and was used by some artists to date their work.
He participated in the upcoming underground film scene. Cheap 8 mm material became available and made it easier for aspiring young filmmakers to shoot their often drug-induced exotic dream movies using friends as actors.
Angus appeared in many films, most notably the ones by Piero Heliczer. Autumn Feast, for which he also helped with the soundtrack, Venus in Furs with music by the embryonic Velvet Underground and Joan of Arc, which Cahiers du Cinema called: "The homemade movie of the Superstars." Ira Cohen, Gerard Malanga, Rene Ricard, Jack Smith, Charles Henri Ford, Tuli Kupferberg and many others all took part in this fantasy that combined the revolution in the Arts at the time with the issues of the Vietnam war.
Besides acting Angus worked on soundtracks for Jerry Jofen, who had the unhappy habit of destroying most of his creations as soon as they were finished, and made the score for Chumlum by Ron Rice. His hypnotic improvisations on the cembalum, that seemed to go on forever, formed the perfect backdrop for the Arabian nights vision of a psychedelic palace brothel in the movie. The cembalum, a stringed instrument to be played with sticks, was also used for some of his later scores of films by Gerard Malanga, Don Snyder and Jonas Mekas with whom he worked in 1966 on the movie Notes on the Circus. By accident the music was erased so we will never know what it sounded like.
For awhile Angus played live with LaMonte Young in front of the screenings at the Filmmakers Cinematheque but most of the time they held endless rehearsals at their Lower East Side apartment. The group took off when next door neighbour (and future partner of LaMonte) Marian Zazeela joined on vocals bringing in Billy Linich (later Billy Name, of Warhol/Factory fame) on guitar.
Angus organised a successful series of concerts at the 10-4 Gallery in Manhattan. Using light projections they played a slow interpretation of Indian drone music with a mastery of natural harmonics and just intonation at an ear crushing volume. Among the enthusiastic onlookers was violinist Tony Conrad who was asked to join the group now called the Theatre of Eternal Music. When Linich left he was replaced by the young Welsh musician John Cale, a classically trained viola player and Xenakis scholar.
With his amplified viola he added an extra dimension to the sustained meditative drones on saxophone, strings and hand drums.


Find the rest here: http://www.blastitude.com/13/ETERNITY/angus_maclise.htm
http://www.greengroceries.net/

king_buzzo 10.09.2007 04:45 AM

the gift is awesome!


just felt like pointing the obvious out...

sonicl 10.09.2007 05:34 AM

Bananafish issue number 17 featured:

hetty maclise - the first of a two-part interview with angus's wife and collaborator, who recounts how they met, her art editorship at the oracle in the '60s, homeopathic uses of lsd, and her life as an artist in spain, morocco, mexico, san francisco, and new york. part two will deal with the kathmandu years.

I can't find anything about part two of the interview being in issue 18, and that was the magazine's final issue. Has it crept out somewhere else, or is it now a great lost interview?

sarramkrop 10.09.2007 05:42 AM

I'll try looking on google and search for it as a pdf document. Please note that the Maclise article contains some inaccuracies, one of them being that he played with the Velvets again in Chicago when Lou Reed was in hospital with hepatitis. This isn't true as far as all the documentation that I have read (damnit, I'd soooo love a bootleg from those gigs) because the replacement was in fact Henry Flynt.

sarramkrop 10.09.2007 05:53 AM

Also, I have never read before of the dispute about who found the original book where the band took their name from. It's being widely documented since forever that it was Maclise who bought it down Times Square's subway for next to nothing, so I don't know where the story about Tony Conrad finding it on the street has come from. Another interesting thing about the name and the book is that one night, after Cale had left the band, Reed went to talk to a young girl who was working at the box office before the Velvets were about to play. Before he walked into the venue, she said something to him along the lines of: ''Hey! nice name for your band. My father wrote the book you took it from''. Small world.

whorefrost 10.09.2007 06:18 AM

I recently went to see the Andy Warhol's film the Velvet Underground and Nico at the filmhouse cinema. 60+ minutes of hypnotic eastern tinged garage rock jams and grayscale meditations. (the majority of the audience were incredulous I think but I sort of became immersed in it.)

sarramkrop 10.09.2007 07:53 AM

Henry Flynt
Marcus Boon
(Originally published in The Wire, 212.)
"Is it OK to talk about what we think about this civilization?" asks 61 year old hillbilly minimalist fiddler and philosopher Henry Flynt, in his broad southern accent, as we drink coffee in a restaurant in New York's Soho, where he lives. "It's the aftermath of a wreck. It's just in a condition of destruction. I'm trying to think of a more polite word than putrefaction. Everything that is organic is dead and decomposing, and everything that's not organic is twisted and fused."
For forty years, to almost complete indifference, Flynt has waged his own multi-front struggle against this culture, a struggle which has encompassed everything from music, dance and painting, to "concept art", a term which he coined in 1961, a broad range of philosophical treatises on everything from mathematics, to psychedelics, to utopian politics, and even an envisioned 1975 commune called the Genius Liberation Project.
After decades of gathering dust, some of his key musical works are finally available. A 2 CD set New American Ethnic Music Volume 1, issued earlier this year by Baltimore musician and impresario John Berndt on his Recorded Records, collects two of the extraordinary drone and violin HESE (Hallucinogenic Ecstatic Sound Environment) pieces he developed with, Swedish composer, musician and mathematician, Catherine Christer Hennix in the late 1970s. Then there's the recent Ampersand release Graduation, a set of avant-country recordings from the late-1970s, in which he places country on an infinite plateau that constantly surprises, while remaining as American as a cross-country road trip. Awaiting release are unique overdubbed violin pieces from the 1960s, like "Hoedown", and recordings of his blazing cosmic rockabilly and freeform psychedelic guitar and drum collaborations with Hennix under the name Dharma Warriors, made in the years before Flynt quit making music in 1984.
Asked whether he's a recluse, Flynt responds: "not at all. In fact, how strange. I've been screaming for attention for 40 years. I have a long list of attempts to become a public figure. It just keeps failing over and over!"

Find the rest here: http://www.hungryghost.net/mb/Flynt.htm

http://www.hungryghost.net/mb.htm

gmku 10.10.2007 06:59 AM

Will you guys understand each other, each with your odd take on how to speak the King's English?

jetengine 01.10.2008 12:00 PM

All these Velvet Underground audio and video rarities are quite nice, but the emphasis is primarily on the Warhol/Nico/Cale era. Does anyone know where to find Loaded-to-Squeeze-era video footage? Now that would be cool for a change....

batreleaser 01.10.2008 05:31 PM

them and the stooges will forever me my favorite bands

hat and bread 01.10.2008 07:00 PM

Hey Pork, have you ever listened to the loooooong Henry Flynt interview on Ubuweb? It was recorded several years back on WFMU and contains some fascinating discussion of Flynt's disdain for European art music, John Cage, conceptual art and some brilliant insight into other things. Very much worth your time.

http://www.ubu.com/sound/flynt.html

CHOUT 01.10.2008 07:16 PM

I found a nice old worn copy of Uptight used last week...lotsa info I didn't know (talks of Brian Epstein being their manager??? He apparently had the first album on a vacation and listened a lot to it) lots of pics I hadnt seen before too. (apologies if this overlaps somehow in this thread, i haven't read everything.)

sarramkrop 01.11.2008 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat and bread
Hey Pork, have you ever listened to the loooooong Henry Flynt interview on Ubuweb? It was recorded several years back on WFMU and contains some fascinating discussion of Flynt's disdain for European art music, John Cage, conceptual art and some brilliant insight into other things. Very much worth your time.

http://www.ubu.com/sound/flynt.html


Yes, but thank you anyway.

sarramkrop 01.11.2008 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHOUT
I found a nice old worn copy of Uptight used last week...lotsa info I didn't know (talks of Brian Epstein being their manager??? He apparently had the first album on a vacation and listened a lot to it) lots of pics I hadnt seen before too. (apologies if this overlaps somehow in this thread, i haven't read everything.)


I haven't read that book in a while, but didn't Warhol fly over to London to talk about Apple releasing the first VU record and with Paul McCartney and to collect Nico from Macca's house because she had made herself at home in it too much? There were talks about Epstein becoming their manager but nothing came out of it.

sarramkrop 01.11.2008 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetengine
All these Velvet Underground audio and video rarities are quite nice, but the emphasis is primarily on the Warhol/Nico/Cale era. Does anyone know where to find Loaded-to-Squeeze-era video footage? Now that would be cool for a change....


I doubt that any exist and I wouldn't want to watch it, anyway.

jetengine 01.11.2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I doubt that any exist and I wouldn't want to watch it, anyway.



Why not...?

sarramkrop 02.22.2008 04:16 AM

Because they would be crap, I'm sure.

GREAT NEWS:

A big fuss is being made about the 1967's Gymnasium Tapes coming on a bootleg near you soon.

lungfish 02.24.2008 12:18 PM

Flac:

http://rapidshare.com/files/94064177...1967.part1.rar

http://rapidshare.com/files/94070094...1967.part2.rar

http://rapidshare.com/files/94071831...1967.part3.rar

or

http://www.mediafire.com/?9zcetzynbvo

█████████ 02.24.2008 01:15 PM

so they are real? where did you get those?

thanks a lot anyway.

█████████ 02.24.2008 01:23 PM

hmm... i hope they are the warhol tapes disguised as the gymnasium tapes.


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