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I'm kind of shocked they did "Sandwitches." That's awesome.

I loved seeing Mos Def at the end.

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Originally Posted by Derek

I loved seeing Mos Def at the end.

yes & Tyler riding Jimmy.

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Originally Posted by Decayed Rhapsody

The beat on that new Tyler track is sick. Really really addictive.

Having said that, I kinda wish a gay rapper (or anyone, really) would step up and create a counterpoint/dialog to this bullshit empty shock posturing Odd Future seem to be getting away with. Why, lyrically, is talking about faggots and bitches still considered revolutionary? I don't buy this whole "I'm only mirroring my reality" bullshit anymore - there's an asymmetry to a lot of their lyricism that feels really tiring. And i say this as a die-hard hip hop fan. I guess there's been slightly less overt homophobia in mainstream rap and it now becomes acceptable and edgy to start railing against faggots? Whenever pitchfork indie culture machine et. al writes about hip hop, it's always treated as some kind of subaltern place, like they need to change their critical lenses or something since they're so unequipped, or they're afraid to touch on issues like political economy without it looking like white tastemakers admonishing "black art." I wish there were more artists producing WORK that critically engages with this stuff.

u guys obviously don't watch The Boondocks, there was a whole episode about that. a good one too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBp_BwNX6gE

and although i like odd future, the "sandwitches" performance just some like juvenille and slightly weaker version of gravediggaz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwJmEvLXvq8

i love this song

tyler said he doesn't even listen to gravediggaz so i dunno

i think they sound more like a juvenile and weaker version of ganksta n.i.p. than gravediggaz

i don't think they sound like a juvenile, weaker version of anyone

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Originally Posted by Derek

i don't think they sound like a juvenile, weaker version of anyone

They make juvenile look harder than the most mature of rap groups. I'm so happy about their response on Fallon. These kids are about to make it huge after self-releasing everything for only a year or two.

Golf wang.

that Fallon performance was so incredible man. I watched it several times in a row. Just astounding. The intensity level is unreal. And when Tyler jumps on Jimmy's back, there's a smile that's just real. I mean like you know he was proud of himself.

I keep seeing random people online getting into them after 'Yonkers' and even some people in my school are now getting into them. Fucking weird man.

On the negative side, I've self-released most of my music for the past year and no one's gave a shit. FUCK OFWGKTA.

Maybe I should just become a rapper, I dunno.

if u did I'd listen.

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Originally Posted by Derek

On the negative side, I've self-released most of my music for the past year and no one's gave a shit. FUCK OFWGKTA.

Maybe I should just become a rapper, I dunno.

as long as it's on a UUUUUU release

Okay, so I heard their performance on Jimmy Fallon and liked it. What should I download to start with?

Bastard, EARL or Rolling Papers.

EARL, Bastard and only after that Radical.

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Originally Posted by tcpotbntmy

as long as it's on a UUUUUU release

I'd truly be on some anticon type shit then wouldn't I?

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Originally Posted by Derek

On the negative side, I've self-released most of my music for the past year and no one's gave a shit. FUCK OFWGKTA.

Rome wasn't built in a day, my friend. I've been self-releasing my music (though labels have put it out too) for 13 years, and only in the past year or two did anyone seem to give a shit. There's just SO MUCH stuff out there, that I think it's very difficult for people to keep up with all of it... I was lucky to start making music right as mp3's were starting to get popular. Now every other drone project is net-releasing than 10-hour albums, for example. I've been lucky to meet lots of superfriendly people via last.fm, and the ones that truely care, are superdevoted to everything I do. I'd take 2 or 3 superfans over 1000 "last.fm listeners" you know what I mean? You already have a hardcore fan in me, so just get a couple more superfans and you'll be a champion.