Actually, watching Jesus And Mary Chain on tv as a kid might have had something to do with it too, but they got me more into stuff like the shoegaze thing and, somehow, a big portion of the American bands that then I became obsessive for, like Mudhoney etc etc. Bizarrely enough, Sonic Youth involountarily lead me towards all those Australian bands like New Christs, The Scientists etc etc.

I was cool before I heard the noise, so I didn't have to worry about that.

I was too but I needed to be even more indie and pretentious so I started listening to bands that no one had ever heard of. I had to fit in by not fitting in. Ya dig?

I also did it for the money and the bitches.

i got into making noise from syr4: goodbye 20th century. actually, when i heard wolf eyes a few weeks after recording my first "noise" piece, i thought they had ripped me off! of course, i soon discovered what i did was nothing new, i still don't think what i do is new, it's just a different interpretation, what i want to hear in noise that i don't hear in anyone else.

speaking of dead machines and hair police, their split is some of the best work either band has done. hell!! i think dead machines' side of the split is their only good recording.

I love that split too, man. I'm going to listen to that shit when I get home.

I got into noise beacuase of the Sonic Youth Gossip Message Board. (Actually Alec Empire and Merzbow)

I was a bitch before I started listening to noise, but now that I did I'm even more a bitch than I was before.

Me too. But I can only listen to the more lighter side of it.

I am waiting for anoise act to create quiet pretty noise, as oppose to the factory floor repetetive skronk

I want Paris Hilton to make a noise record.

There are acts that are very soft and pretty and still incorporate noise.

Xiu Xiu & Picastro spring to mind.

she did.

if you had hit record on that tape deck when I was plowing through ol' Paris's famous gina, you could have sold that "noise" for thousands!

I love those, but they are at best noise-rock, not flat out noise guys. I am talking about the boring ass just noise guys

It's that bad huh?

Imagine the picture of Merzbow coming out of a Nobu restaurant with Paris in tow splattered all over the tabloids.

quiet, pretty noise? there's stuff by francisco lopez, astro, cornucopia in bits, mouthus' follow this house, hototogisu and yellow swans to name a few. not all of their stuff but they have stuff that's quiet and/or pretty.

the goslings go from very oppresive flat out noise to beautiful tonalities.

Well, if you include stuff like Francisco Lopez, who is mainly a field recorder, then Pita can claim some playful right to the altar of noise. He is thrown into the electronica scene because of some of the people that he played with, but some of his records aren't that different from the stuff that gets put out by noisemakers. He's just better at it than most.

genres are all relative.

sure, pita can be included in the noise thing, i consider him more electronic though.

francisco lópez, yes field recorder, but he processes that to create other stuff, some of it's oppresively harsh and some of it oppresively blissful. it's all relative; i saw him live (well, 'see' is not the right word) and he takes you on an amazing journey.

nm.