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noisereductions 05.20.2015 08:56 AM

Take Care = House Of Balloons leftovers = really interesting. Huh.

"The Fear" is one of Drake's best songs of all time. Maybe my favorite ever really.

Take Care is actually prob my least fav Drake album tho. I liked So Far Gone and Thank Me Later more as far as straight up rap albums, and Nothing and Reading way better as his later cloud rappish albums. Shrug.

Rocky is killing it. I usually don't bother w/ pre-album singles, but I"ve listened to all his singles over and over leading up to ALLA.

Severian 05.20.2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
Take Care = House Of Balloons leftovers = really interesting. Huh.

"The Fear" is one of Drake's best songs of all time. Maybe my favorite ever really.

Take Care is actually prob my least fav Drake album tho. I liked So Far Gone and Thank Me Later more as far as straight up rap albums, and Nothing and Reading way better as his later cloud rappish albums. Shrug.

Rocky is killing it. I usually don't bother w/ pre-album singles, but I"ve listened to all his singles over and over leading up to ALLA.


Re: Rocky- Same here. I'm sure ALLA will hit hard.

Re: Take Care- Yes. This album is not a good album. Or, perhaps more accurately, it's not a great album, and the fact that so many people see it as such makes it feel worse than it is. I don't know.

Hey, when do y'all think Pusha T's going drop his next album? "Lunch Money" was so goddamn good! Got my hopes up, and then *silence* ...

Severian 05.20.2015 01:32 PM

Ok so I downloaded the So Far Gone mixtape back in 2013, when I was still on the fence about his music, and tended to let my urge to punch his head off lead my feelings about him as an artist.

And I basically slept on it, because I was back and forth on Nothing was the Same for a while. I finally decided I (mostly) liked it, and when If You're Reading This... dropped I started listening to Drake more, and stumbled onto the EP on Spotify.

I don't know... but I think the EP is better. The mixtape sounds like a neutered version of the EP, even though it came first.

Whatever. I understand now. And yeah, "the Fear" is really fucking great.

noisereductions 05.20.2015 01:53 PM

I mostly prefer the EP. But "Lust For Life," "November 18th" are so awesome - if those had been on the EP it would have been perfect.

louder 05.20.2015 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Hey, when do y'all think Pusha T's going drop his next album? "Lunch Money" was so goddamn good! Got my hopes up, and then *silence* ...

he has a release date - June 30. same day as Vince Staples' album and The Documentary 2. wow.

but man, all my hype is going to Rocky right now. he's gonna have rap album of the year, at least for a while.

louder 05.21.2015 01:56 AM

https://www.billboard.com/articles/c...long-last-asap

noisereductions 05.21.2015 07:38 AM

So excited.

Been on a big Three 6 kick lately.

louder 05.23.2015 03:43 AM

ALLA tracklist:

01 Holy Ghost [ft. Joe Fox]
02 Canal St. [ft. Bones]
03 Fine Whine [ft. M.I.A., Future, and Joe Fox]
04 L$D
05 Excuse Me
06 JD
07 Lord Pretty Flacko Jodye 2
08 Electric Body [ft. Schoolboy Q]
09 Jukebox Joints [ft. Kanye West and Joe Fox]
10 Max B [ft. Joe Fox]
11 Pharsyde [ft. Joe Fox]
12 Wavybone [ft. Juicy J and UGK]
13 Westside Highway [ft. James Fauntleroy]
14 Better Things
15 M’$ [ft. Lil Wayne]
16 Dreams (interlude)
17 Everyday [ft. Rod Stewart and Miguel]
18 Back Home [ft. Mos Def, Acyde & Yams]

noisereductions 05.23.2015 09:05 AM

lotta guests. Some pretty interesting ones.

louder 05.23.2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
lotta guests. Some pretty interesting ones.

http://www.highsnobiety.com/2015/05/...ox-asap-rocky/

Severian 05.23.2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
ALLA tracklist:

01 Holy Ghost [ft. Joe Fox]
02 Canal St. [ft. Bones]
03 Fine Whine [ft. M.I.A., Future, and Joe Fox]
04 L$D
05 Excuse Me
06 JD
07 Lord Pretty Flacko Jodye 2
08 Electric Body [ft. Schoolboy Q]
09 Jukebox Joints [ft. Kanye West and Joe Fox]
10 Max B [ft. Joe Fox]
11 Pharsyde [ft. Joe Fox]
12 Wavybone [ft. Juicy J and UGK]
13 Westside Highway [ft. James Fauntleroy]
14 Better Things
15 M’$ [ft. Lil Wayne]
16 Dreams (interlude)
17 Everyday [ft. Rod Stewart and Miguel]
18 Back Home [ft. Mos Def, Acyde & Yams]


Oh shit Kanye AND Mos Def? Is Mos Def listed as Mos Def?

And a new Pusha T? The Game? Vince Staples? Then more Ghostface... Jesus, this year might be better than 2013 after all.

guest 05.23.2015 09:59 PM

 


about to get a reissue on LA club resource, mental stuff

noisereductions 05.26.2015 08:10 AM

So new asap is out...

Severian 05.26.2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
So new asap is out...



WHAT?!

[EDIT] Downloading from iTunes now... *anticipation!*

louder 05.26.2015 02:04 PM

i'll be the first one to say - great album.

i feel like this one is for the fans. it's darker and more psychedelic than LONG.LIVE, and certainly has a cohesive sound as opposed to LONG.LIVE which was all over the place.

noisereductions 05.26.2015 05:18 PM

It is sooooooo good. Wow.

I hope he left off Multiply cuz we are still gonna get a LORD album.

rebeccagotcursedout 05.26.2015 05:56 PM

psychedelic!?! I read he was doing lots of acid and having orgies during the recording. is the proprietor of this café aware of this? this is where legends are born. I wont be hearing the album anytime soon until I get really debauched, wraped, un family like, fucking redneck chicks with this in the background and renting a hotel room so I wont be disappointed. stay PG as long as you can friends.

Severian 05.26.2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
i'll be the first one to say - great album.

i feel like this one is for the fans. it's darker and more psychedelic than LONG.LIVE, and certainly has a cohesive sound as opposed to LONG.LIVE which was all over the place.



long.live.a$ap was all over the place? I thought it all meshed really nicely into a really powerful whole. "Wild for the Night" was the only "wait, what?" moment for me. Still a great song, despite all the skrillex.

AT.LONG.LAST.A$AP is definitely tuned to a different frequency. This Joe Fox's slinky guitar is all over the album, and A$AP himself helped write some of these beats, so that's probably why it sounds so consistent.

I really enjoy it, though I wish Ye's verse on Jukebox Joints was longer. Actuall, I wish it was a back-and-forth instead of a ROCKY-ROCKY-ROCKY-ROCKY-Yeezy deal. But hey, I'm not complaining.

I won't say it's better than either of the others yet... It's too soon and he's too good. But I will say I devoured it from beginning to end, and had as much of a blast with this record as I did with the more somber To Pimp a Butterfly.

I really like this whole "oh hey, my album's coming out in two weeks - PSYCH! It's coming out at like midnight and you are gonna be so stoked" trend.

noisereductions 05.26.2015 09:49 PM

I get what louder's saying. Long.Live is *mostly* cloud-rap kind of purple. But then you got "Wild For the Night" (noted) or something like "1train" that sounds like 90's boombap, or "Fashion Killa" which is like some 90's radio ish, or "Phoenix" which is... something entirely unique. It's def got a pretty diverse set of sounds opposed to Live.Love's singular approach (aside from "Trilla").

This new record feels like a step in a diff direction - even though we heard samples of what was coming, it's not what I expected. But I love it. I'm sorry but I think it's way better than To Pimp. That record is impressive as F, but it's not enjoyable to sit through. This... man, this I was just enjoying every second of it.

Do I think it's BETTER than Live.Love or Long.Live? I don't know. Not right now. But do I think it has potential to grow on me to that degree? Why not? Rocky's a genius w/ making ALBUMS and this thing is a beast.

Pretty sure it's my fav rap album of the year right now.

Severian 05.26.2015 10:27 PM

Yeah dude, I think I'm with you. I mean, I'm pretty sure I cried the first time I heard TPAB, but as we've said before, that album is like Ulysses or some shit. Maybe even Finnegan's Wake. It's just a massive undertaking for artist and listener both. It's extremely well done. It's definitely a masterpiece.

But I just listened to "Excuse Me" for like the ninth time today. As brilliant TPAB is, no song on that album has nine spins out of me in one day.
It's so smooth, and you can hear Rocky's growth as a rapper in the switch-ups and double time changes, and he sounds so motherfuckin confident. Then that chorus, it's got the shoegazey feel of so many of the classics on the first two, but I want to call it something else... shoe-gauze. It's just so stoned out and cottonmouthed and lazily tough, like there's nothin to prove by getting all heated. He just has to say very calmly that he's a boss and it's believable.

"I pay very close attention / after that I may my dues an' UUH"

Ha. It's like the "LVL" of this record, and LVL was my favorite track on Long.Live.

This album is fun as hell, having Kanye and Future on board doesn't hurt a thang, and I love the fact that Rocky can do "lite" like such a badass. Songs like L$D and older cuts like Fashion Killah... who else could pull those off without losing some street appeal, or being labeled R&B.. Who? Well, Kanye... Kanye could, and has, deviated that drastically from rap's macho sound.

But if Rocky's pulling off the kind of genre-bending feats that put him at THAT level, then I think I've been underestimating him as an artist.

So yeah. If I had to choose, I'd say ALLA > TPAB at this point. But we all know shif can change. :)


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