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demonrail666 08.27.2017 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Yeah man no problem. Don't expect Doctor Who-like greatness though. Rip Hunter is a D-lister or below. The CW show Legends of Tomorrow has a VERY Doctor Who-esque premise, behind all the superhero shenanigans. Rip Hunter is the leader of a team of D-list heroes who travel through time on a ship (the Waverider) stolen from a group of future dudes who police time (the "Timemasters") LOLOL! It's of course a shit show like all the other CW superhero shows, but it seems to know it's a shit show, and is as a result sometimes knowingly cheeky and funny.

There are a lot of Who-esque stories in both DC and Marvel, but I think Rip is the most overtly Whoish.


Yeah, I'm not necessarily expecting anything great; Just curious really. So that's perfect.

I know their origins are very different, but Dr Strange seems close to Who in some ways.

Severian 08.27.2017 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Yeah, I'm not necessarily expecting anything great; Just curious really. So that's perfect.

I know their origins are very different, but Dr Strange seems close to Who in some ways.


Eeeehhhhhh.... I'm not so sure about that. I'm trying to think of some similarities, and I'm having a tough time. Modern incarnations of Strange, maybe there's a bit, I guess. He traded his brownstone with some transdimenional alien dudes for an ingredient to a spell that would free some heroes from New York in Secret Empire. The aliens wanted "prime real estate." Hah. But in general I'd have to disagree.

There are also Doctor Who comics of varying quality. The best are the ones published by Doctor Comics in Britain and distributed by Marvel in the '80s, featuring a Tom Baker-era Doctor. The others, the mlre recent ones, are pretty much fluff.

Severian 08.27.2017 07:06 PM

Outside of D.C. and Marvel there's a LOT of stuff in the same, or a similar vein. Dark Horse has MONKEYMAN & O'BRIEN, Image has Saga. Oh, and 2000 AD has a lot of future, alien, clone stuff. Judge Dredd might be a bit like a militant, ultraviolent, authoritarian, hardass motherfucker version of the Doctor if the Timelords were all-powerful gun-toting judges, Gallifrey was a city that covered ⅓ of the earth, and the TARDIS was a motorcycle. Lol.

Dredd is British too, so there's some real wit to that series. It's all very satirical and cynical though. Doctor Who + RoboCop.

Rob Instigator 08.27.2017 10:54 PM

Watching the flood. Casa Instigator is safe so far.

!@#$%! 08.27.2017 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Watching the flood. Casa Instigator is safe so far.

good to know you got life plus the interwebs

stay dry!

demonrail666 08.28.2017 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Eeeehhhhhh.... I'm not so sure about that. I'm trying to think of some similarities, and I'm having a tough time. Modern incarnations of Strange, maybe there's a bit, I guess. He traded his brownstone with some transdimenional alien dudes for an ingredient to a spell that would free some heroes from New York in Secret Empire. The aliens wanted "prime real estate." Hah. But in general I'd have to disagree.


Yep. You're right. I suppose I was just hoodwinked by the 'Doctor' bit.

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Doctor Who comics ... 2000 AD

I can't think of a character in 2000AD who really fits the template, but I get the feeling the creators wanted to distance it from anything associated with DW, given its dominant position within Brit pop sf at that time. Alan Moore started out doing the odd story for the orig DW comic but wasn't a fan apparently, although his Warpsmith stories for Warrior (an early 80s rival to 2000AD) had some similarities and the Warpsmiths themselves later featured in some DW spin-off audio books.

Incidentally, Future Shock, a documentary on 2000AD was released last year which I reckon you'd really enjoy. No involvement from Alan Moore (predictably), but there is Neil Gaiman, Grant Morrison and a host of others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzxf...U&spfreload=10

h8kurdt 08.28.2017 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Watching the flood. Casa Instigator is safe so far.


Seeing images of it is insane. It's only when you see before and current shots of the flood do you realise how fucked up things are.

Stay safe, man.

Severian 08.28.2017 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Yep. You're right. I suppose I was just hoodwinked by the 'Doctor' bit.



I can't think of a character in 2000AD who really fits the template, but I get the feeling the creators wanted to distance it from anything associated with DW, given its dominant position within Brit pop sf at that time. Alan Moore started out doing the odd story for the orig DW comic but wasn't a fan apparently, although his Warpsmith stories for Warrior (an early 80s rival to 2000AD) had some similarities and the Warpsmiths themselves later featured in some DW spin-off audio books.

Incidentally, Future Shock, a documentary on 2000AD was released last year which I reckon you'd really enjoy. No involvement from Alan Moore (predictably), but there is Neil Gaiman, Grant Morrison and a host of others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzxf...U&spfreload=10


Ooooh!! Thank you for the rec! I wish check it out with the quickness!

Severian 08.28.2017 10:09 AM

Denonrail: Check out MONKEYMAN & O'BRIEN some time.

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The series follows the story of Ann O'Brien, the daughter of a missing scientist, who at the time of his disappearance was working on experiments in interdimensional travel. When one of her father's experimental machines was accidentally activated by Ann, it teleported from another dimension Axwell Tiberius (a.k.a. "Monkeyman"), a 10-foot-tall (3.0 m) super-intelligent gorilla-like being that Adams conceived as "the Reed Richards of the gorilla world".[1] The same accident also bathed Ann in a mysterious radiation which caused her grow to seven feet tall and endowed her with superhuman strength, endurance and speed.[2] Axewell quickly became Ann's friend and the two went on to face numerous Silver Age–style threats including the "Shrewmanoid" and the "Froglodytes".[3]


 

!@#$%! 08.28.2017 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Denonrail: Check out MONKEYMAN & O'BRIEN someone.



 

ha ha ha ha

i didnt know you could call an irish person a monkey. damn! das raciss...

h8kurdt 08.28.2017 11:26 AM

This series of Twin Peaks has been just brilliant. Feel gutted knowing it's the last episode next week *sob*

Bytor Peltor 08.28.2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Watching the flood. Casa Instigator is safe so far.


Good to hear, Rob......high and dry for the Peltor's over here in the 409. However, Harvey looks to hit us on Wednesday (as a tropical storm), so another 20+ inches predicted.

dirty bunny 08.28.2017 09:39 PM

seeing the images of the flooding in Houston is so surreal. We visited last summer, and it's only 8 hours away. I think the only similar disaster I've been close to was the eruption of mt. st. Helens, but I was too young to remember it.

demonrail666 08.29.2017 03:06 AM

Yeah, watching it on the news. Stay safe all those potentially affected.

ilduclo 08.29.2017 10:33 AM

GoT finale for S7 was OK. I don't see the huge deal about what's facing the humans there, but then, maybe I'm just the genius that should be there advising (and otherwise assisting) the 2 queens. Damn, that Circe is delishous.


 

!@#$%! 08.29.2017 10:36 AM

game of thrones laaa laaa laaa laaaaaaa im not looking

Severian 08.29.2017 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Yeah, watching it on the news. Stay safe all those potentially affected.


Hope Rob is OK. I read this morning that Houston is supposed be hit again.

Severian 08.29.2017 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
GoT finale for S7 was OK. I don't see the huge deal about what's facing the humans there, but then, maybe I'm just the genius that should be there advising (and otherwise assisting) the 2 queens. Damn, that Circe is delishous.


 


AAAGH!

What's the point though?! The source material doesn't even exist yet! Why couldn't they just wait for old Mr. Muttonchops to finish his goddam book?

I will deliberately not watch past a certain point now, even if I do end up deciding to pick the show back up. Are there splot universes? Is the show a spoiler for the Winds of Winter? How is it going to END next year with TWO BOOMS yet to be written AFTER the next one?

*brain 'plodes*

#westworldinstead

ilduclo 08.29.2017 11:35 AM

the point? who gives a fuck about the books, not me, I've got lots of better lit to read.

Severian 08.29.2017 11:42 AM

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the point? who gives a fuck about the books, not me, I've got lots of better lit to read.


No but seriously. The books are candy. They're like soap operas. But once you start, they're more addictive than the show. And yeah, I have better shit to read too. George "R.R." Martin is a hack. But Jesus, the story still originated in his jack-jizz! I just can't really fathom how the hell they're doing this, and doing it successfully.

The books are enormous sellers, and I'm willing to bet that at least 40% of the viewers have read at least the first book. That's why the show was such a hit in the first place. The books have a HUGE following, so that's who cares about the books.

What does a show based on a book become when it surpasses the still on-going book series and invents its own shit? HBO didn't set out to do that. If they had, it would be easier to grasp. Like Preacher. Something similar but ultimately a separate entity from the source material.

Also, the show is trash too, really. Great cinematography and effects, but tons of gross unnecessary horseshit that makes the books look tasteful. If we're being honest here, the whole thing is trash culture.

But I guess if you don't read the books then you probably don't care about the answers to the questions I'm asking.

But... maybe SOMEONE does?

ilduclo 08.30.2017 02:30 PM

Glace (with an accent legue) French series, absolutely great cinematography. Soundtrack so/so. Acting is fantastic. Writing OK. sorta a recco, if only for those who love good acting and cinematography. Plus, French girls ;)

!@#$%! 09.02.2017 01:02 PM

hoooooooooooooly shit!!! i just saw the first dalek ever!!!

season 1 of original dr. who is bananas

they talking about a neutron bomb!

eta: got curious about the music and found this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_theme_music

no synthesizers and spliced tapes!

!@#$%! 09.03.2017 09:16 AM

been dealing with a very minor flu (?) so this has given me the opportunity to binge on season 2 of marco polo which so far has been awesome

 

Severian 09.03.2017 12:23 PM

So True Detective season 3 is officially happening. With Mahershala Ali from Moonlight and House of Cards. Will take place in the Ozarks (like that show... Ozark... which is actually very good, but will likely be forgotten).

It's happening. I'm excited.

http://m.eonline.com/ca/news/877229/...have-a-setting

Severian 09.03.2017 12:24 PM

Still totally stuck in the Americans (midway though season 3) and holy Jesus on the cross, it just gets heavier and heavier. I feel, watching, as though it's sure to explode any second.

!@#$%! 09.03.2017 12:36 PM

don't worry, americans will keep twisting your innards ha ha ha

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aaaaaand marco polo was fantastic, but fuck me, it got cancelled and 2 seasons is all we'll have

apparently critics didn't like it or some such shit. or audiences weren't watching much or who knows.

too many asians for general appeal or something? what da fuc man.

but anyway, great epic show with awesome action (tits, ass, blood & gore, kung-fu and more) that i hope will be revalued in the future. war and political intrigue and cgi horses on fire is a win in my book (ok that cgi didn't look that great, but still).

srsly this kublai & his court make frank underwood look like an innocent child

fucking shit. i wanted more of it. the show looked great.

Severian 09.03.2017 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
don't worry, americans will keep twisting your innards ha ha ha

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aaaaaand marco polo was fantastic, but fuck me, it got cancelled and 2 seasons is all we'll have

apparently critics didn't like it or some such shit. or audiences weren't watching much or who knows.

too many asians for general appeal or something? what da fuc man.

but anyway, great epic show with awesome action (tits, ass, blood & gore, kung-fu and more) that i hope will be revalued in the future. war and political intrigue and cgi horses on fire is a win in my book (ok that cgi didn't look that great, but still).

srsly this kublai & his court make frank underwood look like an innocent child

fucking shit. i wanted more of it. the show looked great.


Oh I thought you knew it was canceled. That's happened to a few of the Netflix series. They either go viral like House of Cards and OITNB and the Marvel shows, or they seem to fizzle. Master of None is an exception, I guess.

I'm hoping that doesn't happen with OZARK, which was already being written off before it even preomiered (Jason Bateman in a drama was, I guess, too much for some to fathom?) but it's really goddamn good.

Actually, the girl who plays "Kimmy" in the Americans is a main character. And she's very good. Talented young actor, handed one hell of a role in OZARK, which she absolutely nailed. Even if the show dies off (oh please no!) I have a feeling she'll be just fine.

!@#$%! 09.03.2017 01:44 PM

no i didnt know. i quit watching a couple years ago due to move. went looking for news on season3 and blam-- it was just cancelled last december.

either way worth the watch. french ending i guess.

reason non-viral shows can continue is if they cost little. which wasn't the case with this mega-production. the spectacle alone is worth the view. download as high resolution as you can for maximum effect (porn & otherwise).

dirty bunny 09.03.2017 02:04 PM

Apropos of nothing, Rome was a really good show we both liked watching. I loved the historical quality of it, but it also focused on two sometimes-friends and their trials & tribulations.

I heard it was a very expensive show to produce though, and not enough people watched it to justify the cost. It's a dang shame.

ilduclo 09.03.2017 02:04 PM

another French series, Ceux de 14. Follows a group of soldiers from the beginning of WW 1. It's really good, recco ++

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwevAKFGqDw

Severian 09.03.2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
don't worry, americans will keep twisting your innards ha ha ha


Oh man, you're not kidding.

Is it just me, or is Agent Beeman's wife (Sandra?) just... like... horrible?
I get that he fucked up really bad, over and over and over, but — there are some extenuating circumstances she doesn't seem interested in. Also, she's horrifying. The idea of being married to her actually scares me.

Wouldn't mind seeing her eat it. Also Martha. Goddamn Martha story has me on CONSTANT EDGE. AAAAHHH.

!@#$%! 09.03.2017 03:00 PM

laaaaa laaa laaaa laaaaa

im not saying anything

also im scared that if you get ahead of me in seasons watched you're gonna spill all the beans

!@#$%! 09.03.2017 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dirty bunny
Apropos of nothing, Rome was a really good show we both liked watching. I loved the historical quality of it, but it also focused on two sometimes-friends and their trials & tribulations.

I heard it was a very expensive show to produce though, and not enough people watched it to justify the cost. It's a dang shame.

ah, rome was so fucking great!

damn shame indeed

Severian 09.03.2017 03:11 PM

Well, OZARK is exquisitely filmed and well-edited and acted, but should be cheap as all hell to make, comparatively speaking. No special effects, only one real setting. So maybe it will survive.

Watch OZARK, guys. Jason Bateman is actually really good at this kind of shit. It's as seamless a fit as Bryan Cranston was for Breaking Bad. Plays on his cadence and relatability and wit as a comedic actor and flips it, and it really works! He's honestly kind of a pleasure to watch, as is Laura Linney as his badass wife.

Someone watch the thing.

Severian 09.03.2017 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
laaaaa laaa laaaa laaaaa

im not saying anything

also im scared that if you get ahead of me in seasons watched you're gonna spill all the beans


SORRY!! I thought you'd seen it all! :(

No spoilers. Promise. I just don't like that wife of Stan's.

I'm halfway through season 3, and I'm going to be done with it probably some time this week. I've been binging. AND it's a holiday tomorrow, so... *dances*

!@#$%! 09.03.2017 03:15 PM

well i haven't seen the last season. up to 6 i think? or was it 5? something.

anyway no worries

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and yes, ozark is on my list already. can't watch them all at once!

ilduclo 09.03.2017 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian

Watch OZARK, guys.
Someone watch the thing.


yeah, seen it. pretty good. Just a few problems with the writing, but all in all, pretty good!

Severian 09.03.2017 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
yeah, seen it. pretty good. Just a few problems with the writing, but all in all, pretty good!


It's been a few weeks now since I finished it. I think I had a few minor qualms with the dialogue at times, but nothing that left a lasting mark. Can't even remember what now.

I think Bateman was really on point. His character actually reminded me a lot of someone I know. Not the criminal element, but basically everything else. So the character struck true.

ilduclo 09.03.2017 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
It's been a few weeks now since I finished it. I think I had a few minor qualms with the dialogue at times, but nothing that left a lasting mark. Can't even remember what now.
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no probs with the dialog, so to speak, however the writing left a lot to be desired, particularly regarding the dope angle. Just hard to imagine that the people running the show wouldn't actually have consulted with anyone who had any experience in anything related to that. Just some idiotic unbelievable stuff.
go figure, I guess you only have to look at all the "terrorist" and "reality tv" shows on to see where they are coming from. Hard to see why they get any pay for some of it, sheesh.

Forinstance, poppies are grown in poor countries They do so because it's very labor intensive. So, not in the US. Also, the idea that there could be commercial illegal opium production in the US is moronic. Most rural areas of the US are overflown for drug production interdiction at least once a week. So, huge fields of flowering poppies? Yeah....

Severian 09.03.2017 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
no probs with the dialog, so to speak, however the writing left a lot to be desired, particularly regarding the dope angle. Just hard to imagine that the people running the show wouldn't actually have consulted with anyone who had any experience in anything related to that. Just some idiotic unbelievable stuff.
go figure, I guess you only have to look at all the "terrorist" and "reality tv" shows on to see where they are coming from. Hard to see why they get any pay for some of it, sheesh.

Forinstance, poppies are grown in poor countries They do so because it's very labor intensive. So, not in the US. Also, the idea that there could be commercial illegal opium production in the US is moronic. Most rural areas of the US are overflown for drug production interdiction at least once a week. So, huge fields of flowering poppies? Yeah....


That didn't even occur to me. But... I do know that poppies grow in a lot of places and environments. In the spring and summer, at least. US winters wouldn't help, I guess, but it happens when the weather is right.. Really, they popped up in enough alleyways and vacant lots and peoples' yards to keep some of my friends very high on poppy tea in college. No joke. There was rarely a shortage, and it was a very popular thing. Some particularly industrious friends even learned how to actually harvest the opium (scoring the bulbs, drying the milky stuff... whatever, I'm actually not sure) but I can't say if they did it correctly because I never tried the stuff they made. But the tea sure did work.

Also, I'm pretty sure it's legal to grow poppies in the US. It's just not legal to harvest them. People quibble about which poppies are opium poppies and which aren't, and all I know about that is that... well... the tea always worked, whether the bulbs came from a Whole Foods or an alley. It's been 15 years, of course, and I'm no expert, but it's maybe somewhat plausible? I don't know. I guess it does seem far-fetched. The US is not where actual heroin is harvested in bulk. It's probably possible, but for the flyover thing.


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