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Severian 09.23.2017 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
I realized that Tribe's comeback album is their best album. It truly has everything that is so great about Tribe. Production wise it's modern and incredible. Versatile. Every rapper brought the top of his game. It's truly a masterpiece.


Oh come on. Yes it’s very very good, but it’s not their best album. Midnight Marauders? Low End Theory?

I agree it’s great, and everything a “comeback” album should be, but it wasn’t even the best hip-hop album of 2016. Second best, easy, but not the best.

Recency effect bro. This is called the recency effect.
Actually not really, that’s something different that has to do with memory and stuff, but kinda.

louder 09.30.2017 02:26 PM

Ha.. no, I really do think it's their best. MM and LET are classics of course but this is the one for me.

Is Kanye greater than Tribe? No disrespect, but in many ways, he is. They opened for him during Yeezus tour for a reason. So it shouldn't come as a surprise that it was "only" the 2nd best hip hop album of 2016. In almost every other year it would've been the best by a large margin.

louder 09.30.2017 02:29 PM

Miley's new album is a huge commercial failure.. funny how things change every few years.

Severian 09.30.2017 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
Ha.. no, I really do think it's their best. MM and LET are classics of course but this is the one for me.

Is Kanye greater than Tribe? No disrespect, but in many ways, he is. They opened for him during Yeezus tour for a reason. So it shouldn't come as a surprise that it was "only" the 2nd best hip hop album of 2016. In almost every other year it would've been the best by a large margin.


Are you really asking me that?

Of course Kanye’s better than Tribe.

Tribe is one of the all time greatest groups ever in any genre, but musically Kanye is way, way, way better. It’s like... Tribe is Brian Eno, Kanye is Richard D. James. Or... uh... Tribe is... fuckin’ ... the Ramones, and Kanye is Sonic Youth.

Kanye is indebted to Tribe, but his music has lapped theirs about five times over at this point. Fully lapped.

But yes, any other year except for a Kendrick year, that new tribe joint would be rap album of the year.

Severian 09.30.2017 02:52 PM

When’s King Push coming out?!

Kanye’s never gonna release Cruel Winter. :(

Something is coming Dec. 31 though. #EverybodyWins with Kid Cudi (who should really only be doing choruses for Kanye at this point... that boy is never going to have a real career)

Severian 09.30.2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
Miley's new album is a huge commercial failure.. funny how things change every few years.


Didn’t even know it existed until I saw it in the store after work last night. When the first time you hear about an album is when you physically see it in a chain store in 2017, things can’t be good. Chain stores don’t know what people want. This particular store has never had a single copy of “DAMN.” Not one.

Miley Cyrus is unfortunate because she’s going through all the same motions and making all the same terrible decisions a sheltered theater would make after going to college and smoking weed for he first time, only she’s doing it in front of the world. And she’s not getting an education.

She’s like the most visible drunk girl at a party ever. Now she seems to be going through a junior year, “time to settle down and get serious phase,” which won’t last because she’s gonna lose it when she takes stock of all the damage she’s done to herself and her self-esteem.

Wayne Coyne has played a creepy role in all of this. I like Wayne Coyne a good deal less than I once did, after hearing him simulate sex with a 20-year-old and encourage illicit drug use and whatnot. Super gross, if you think about it.

louder 10.01.2017 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
When’s King Push coming out?!

Kanye’s never gonna release Cruel Winter. :(

Something is coming Dec. 31 though. #EverybodyWins with Kid Cudi (who should really only be doing choruses for Kanye at this point... that boy is never going to have a real career)

This is better than the Drake collab. I'm totally here for a new Kanye album with some Cudi assistance. Things have turned out well if you ask me.

Severian 10.01.2017 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
This is better than the Drake collab. I'm totally here for a new Kanye album with some Cudi assistance. Things have turned out well if you ask me.


Drake collab officially most definitely not happening. Hahaha

evollove 10.10.2017 11:27 AM

Poll: Vag or Dick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z726OPwCnjE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnzYG0ZkrXg

Rob Instigator 10.13.2017 11:22 AM

Heard this track on the radio, loved the bass and the lyrics. Cool song. Reminds me of several women I know who have had to get over the shitty men in their life to accept the good one. Russ - Losin' Control https://youtu.be/IdGIZjVWrzY

louder 10.13.2017 10:00 PM

https://pitchfork.com/news/vince-sta...eestyle-trash/

LOL

Severian 10.14.2017 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by louder


It was not that good. Though I’ll admit I was proud of him. He seemed visibly frustrated and pissed the fuck off, as any sane person should be. No, it was not a great freestyle — I mean, Jesus, he had to start over for fuck’s sake — but he DID tell his Trump-supporting fans (of which there are many) to fuck right the fuck off, and that took courage.

Honestly, the rapping was definitely not great, but it may have been the least bullshit thing he’s ever done. *shrug*

evollove 10.15.2017 04:42 AM

Favorite line: "got no nuts, like an empty asylum."

Dudes, fists "balled like the top of your head."

Balled, bald

A homophone off da top of his dome.

Y'all crazy and about to get neg repped.

Severian 10.15.2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Favorite line: "got no nuts, like an empty asylum."

Dudes, fists "balled like the top of your head."

Balled, bald

A homophone off da top of his dome.

Y'all crazy and about to get neg repped.


Hey man, I just think his flow’s off. Some of the rhymes were good.

louder 10.21.2017 04:07 PM

This thread is dead.

Severian 10.21.2017 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
This thread is dead.


Yeah, well, you post like once a month, so...

I have put in a solid and observable effort this year. But I move on when there’s nobody to shoot shit with.

Also, I really quite hate most hip-hop. That new Future and Thug thing? Yawwwwwnnnnn. So mega-yawn. No fucks to give. That new Wu-Tang Not-Clan abomination? Shit salad.

But we could still talk about stuff if SOME OF US PUT IN THE TIME!!

Severian 10.21.2017 05:35 PM

I’m calling the year early since this thread is now “dead” after seven fucking years.

Hip-hop album of the year:
1. Kendrick Lamar - “DAMN.”
2. Jay-Z - “4:44”
3. Vince Staples - “Big Fish Theory”

Song of the year:
1. Kendrick Lamar - “DNA”
2. Jay-Z - “Moonlight”
3. Jay-Z ft. Frank Ocean - “Caught Their Eyes”

Letdown of the year:
1. No “Cruel Winter” OR “Turbo Grafx-whatever-the-fuck”
2. No “King Push”
3. Drake’s still around

Miracle of the year:
1. KANYE/DRAKE COLLAB IS NOT HAPPENING, THANK ALL THE GODS!
2. Jay-Z made a great album
3. Lil Wayne didn’t die

Video of the year:
1. Jay-Z - “The Story of O.J.”
2. Kendrick Lamar - “HUMBLE”

Artist of the year: Kendrick Lamar

 
 
 

Rob Instigator 10.24.2017 10:12 AM

Hip Hop, like Rock n Roll, is Dead.

Severian 10.24.2017 01:39 PM

Possibly. There are so few good artists in the genre right now.

I tried a minute of that new Gucci Mane album and just ohmygod... I just can’t believe so much shit sounds so shamelessly *exactly like everything else.*

Rob Instigator 10.24.2017 02:21 PM

Gucci Mane has always been inexplicable to me. his rhymes are lame, his rhyme scheme is wack, bordering on the stupid, and his grills make his too big teeth already look like some sort of attack on titan shit.


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