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porkmarras 08.22.2006 10:16 AM

No.Spookie?

porkmarras 08.22.2006 10:16 AM

spookie?

porkmarras 08.22.2006 10:17 AM

spookie?

Pookie 08.22.2006 10:17 AM

so, what was the very first electronica song?;)

sonicl 08.22.2006 10:19 AM

Was it Da Da Da by Trio?

porkmarras 08.22.2006 10:20 AM

Raymond Scott?

Toilet & Bowels 08.22.2006 10:20 AM

jean-michel jarre

porkmarras 08.22.2006 10:20 AM

i'm probably wrong.

Pookie 08.22.2006 10:21 AM

Tell me about Kaffe Matthews Porky.

I've heard this is supposed to be very good:

 

Pookie 08.22.2006 10:22 AM

Edgard Varese?

sonicl 08.22.2006 10:22 AM

Kontakte by Karlheinz Stockhausen (1959)?

Toilet & Bowels 08.22.2006 10:23 AM

pierre schaeffer?

Pookie 08.22.2006 10:24 AM

Anybody got any of Sub Rosa Anthologies of Noise and Electronic Music?

Pookie 08.22.2006 10:25 AM

Porky?

Pookie 08.22.2006 10:32 AM

The first electronic instrument is often viewed to be the Theremin, invented by Professor Leon Theremin circa 1919 - 1920. Another early electronic instrument was the Ondes Martenot, which was used in the Turangalīla-Symphonie by Olivier Messiaen and also by other, primarily French, composers such as Andre Jolivet.

I'm boring myself now.

sonicl 08.22.2006 10:40 AM

You seem to have overlooked Thaddeus Cahill's Teleharmonium.

http://www.synthmuseum.com/magazine/0102jw.html

porkmarras 08.22.2006 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
Porky?

Here i am(i was out for a fag).this is the first Kaffe Matthews album that i've ever bought wich i've found in a bin for 2 quid:






 


It is mainly made of recordings in fields(Kent if i remember right) and improvised electro acoustic music in a Stoke Newington church.This was a while before our Kaffe became the queen of the Wire magazine.I didn't know anything about her.It just kinda described the music that it contained on the back of the sleeve and i thought that it might be a good record.A few years later i was chatting to this guy in a bar and it turns out that he worked for the government in a profession that is meant to assest the motivations for creating of many artists in Britain(believe it or not,there is such a profession in this country).While we talked about music,Kaffe's name came out and he happened to be a friend of hers.He gave me the NASA record as a present as well as a Yoko Ono peace badge wich,as you can probably imagine,i never wear.

Pookie 08.22.2006 10:54 AM

I didn't include that because I couldn't find any record of it being used as an instrument in a piece of music. I'm very thorough you know.

Pookie 08.22.2006 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
Here i am(i was out for a fag).this is the first Kaffe Matthews album that i've ever bought wich i've found in a bin for 2 quid:






 


It is mainly made of recordings in fields(Kent if i remember right) and improvised electro acoustic music in a Stoke Newington church.This was a while before our Kaffe became the queen of the Wire magazine.I didn't know anything about her.It just kinda described the music that it contained on the back of the sleeve and i thought that it might be a good record.A few years later i was chatting to this guy in a bar and it turns out that he worked for the government in a profession that is meant to assest the motivations for creating of many artists in Britain(believe it or not,there is such a profession in this country).While we talked about music,Kaffe's name came out and he happened to be a friend of hers.He gave me the NASA record as a present as well as a Yoko Ono peace badge wich,as you can probably imagine,i never wear.


Good story, it was worth the wait.

porkmarras 08.22.2006 11:08 AM

 

You're watching an old horror movie, and as the creature approaches the teenagers sitting in the car, you suddenly hear from the screen a shrill, wavy sound, like a sharp, vibrating bow ... a mysterious sound that's hard to identify. Like this.

That's the sound of a theremin, and it's unlike any instrument you've ever heard or seen before. The theremin has no moving parts, and you don't touch it to play it ... you make sounds by moving your hands through a field of electromagnetism!

 

The theremin was the first electronic instrument ever made, and it was invented by a Russian-born cellist and engineer named Lev Termen in 1920. (His name was later anglicized to Leon Theremin). At the right you can see Termen playing his instrument, which was a large radio-like cabinet with two antennas protruding from it, one horizontally and another vertically.

Music is produced by waving your hands near the two antennas; the instrument contains no moving parts. The theremin produces electric fields surrounding each of the two antennas; these fields are affected by the proximity of some other object, like a hand. Moving your hand varies the sound, as explained below.

 
When a hand is brought into the sensitive electric field surrounding the vertical antenna, sounds are produced. These are amplified through a loudspeaker. As the hand approaches the antenna, the pitch of the sounds becomes higher; as the hand is with-drawn, the pitch becomes lower.

As a hand approaches the horizontal antenna, the loudness decreases; as the hand is moved away from the antenna, the power is increased, to an intensity exceeding that of the most powerful stringed instrument.

No special knowledge is needed to play it ... anyone who can hum or whistle a tune can play the theremin. But it requires practice to play well.

The theremin does not sound like any other single instrument. Vibrato, glissando and other musical effects are accomplished easily, and it can produce not merely quarter tones, but infinitesimal divisions of tone. Its range is about three octaves.
When playing low tones, it can be made to sound like a bassoon or string bass. In the mid-range of frequencies, it is very similar in sound to a cello; at higher ranges it imitates the violin and flute. At its highest frequencies, the theremin sounds very much like a soprano human voice.
By rapidly changing the tones being played, the resulting combinations of sounds can only be described as 'other-worldly' ... there is nothing else like it.

 
The inventor Termen produced other unusual instruments as well, including the terpsitone, the rhythmicon, an electronic cello, an electronic harmonium, and even an eye-controlled theremin. He also taught other people to play the theremin; one of his first pupils, Clara Rockmore, became 'the prime theremin virtuoso of the twentieth century'.

Inside the instrument, besides the electric field generator, there is a tone generator and an amplifier. The first theremins contained vacuum tubes to amplify the sounds, but most modern ones are use transistors.

Robert Moog, a pioneer designer and manufacturer of commercial music synthesizers, began his career by building and selling versions of the theremin in the 1960s. In the last decade, the instrument has become very popular.

But the theremin was a neglected instrument during the first half of the last century. Its unusual sound was made use of mostly by movie producers, who used it in such movies as 'Lost Weekend', 'The Day The Earth Stood Still', 'The Thing', and 'Alice in Wonderland'. By the mid 1960's, however, the music industry had discovered the instrument, and since then has been featured in the music of various artists, including 'Good Vibrations' by the Beach Boys, 'Whole Lotta Love' by Led Zeppelin, and more recently, The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, Pere Ubu, Phish, and The Lothars.
Visit the website of Caroline Eyck, who performs classical music on the theremin.


In the past decade, new advances in the field of electronic music have seen the development of synthesizers, drum machines and samplers ... but Termen's theremin was the original electronic instrument, and its sound remains unique.
According to Jason Barile, of the Center for Intelligent Systems (CIS), at Vanderbilt School of Engineering, "When you play a theremin, you essentially become part of the circuit. The simplicity of the design is the most interesting technical aspect of the instrument... there are no mechanical or moving parts involved; it’s just pure electricity."


Are you intrigued? Before you rush out and buy yourself a theremin, why not try one, right here on your computer? We found a unique little program that allows you to actually play a theremin and hear what it sounds like!

When you run the program, you'll see a couple of introductory screens, and then you can start it up using the arrow (0).

The theremin is turned on using the switch labelled 'weirdness' (1).
All the other buttons (3, 4, 6) just add ordinary music and rhythm, as background.

The screen shows Termen playing a theremin; you can animate his arms using a button (2), and see a graphic display of the frequencies being generated (5).

Play the theremin, changing the tone and volume, by moving your mouse pointer up and down or left and right, across the full width of your monitor. Turn your volume way up, and you will be amazed at the sounds you can make!

Get the theremin program (705k, zipped)

nicfit 08.22.2006 11:10 AM

do you guys like this song?

http://www.badongo.com/file/1273724

it's taken from jonny greenwood's bodysong album.actually it's the only track i really like out of that work,the other are a bit too avant garde-pretentious in my opinion.nice sounds,though.

Pookie 08.22.2006 11:29 AM

Has anybody built their own theremin?

Glice 08.22.2006 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
Tell me about Kaffe Matthews Porky.

I've heard this is supposed to be very good:


 


Shit.

Glice 08.22.2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nefeli
dj shadow -endtroducing


Shit.

Glice 08.22.2006 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RdTv
Yeah, especially early Ninja Tune...
some more I forgot


Amon Tobin
Boards Of Canada
Air
Four Tet


Shit Shit Shit Shit.

Glice 08.22.2006 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
githead


Shit.

Glice 08.22.2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hypertonic
(Hip-hop/Glitch).


Shit.

Glice 08.22.2006 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Right,a little bit of name-dropping.Let me know what you think of the following:
Kid 606
Zoviet France
Boom Boom Satellite
Kaffe Matthews


Shit shit shit shit.

Glice 08.22.2006 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh
Buck 65


Shit.

Glice 08.22.2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
Has anybody built their own theremin?


Yes.


It was shit.

alyasa 08.22.2006 09:08 PM

I assume shit is derogatory in this sense?

Cantankerous 08.22.2006 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
whatever, i don't care anymore

maybe we should switch usernames, mine seems more fitting of you.

Toilet & Bowels 08.22.2006 09:15 PM

well i was just wondering what marras thought i'd made up, and then i decided i wasn't bothered. i don't see why everyone thought i was being arsey.

Cantankerous 08.22.2006 09:16 PM

probably because you were.

Toilet & Bowels 08.22.2006 09:23 PM

seriously, i can't remember the last time i got genuinely pissed off while reading this board. which i think says something about my patience, all things considered

Cantankerous 08.22.2006 09:25 PM

you're going to need plenty of it when i come around. have you got lots of room in your closet?

Toilet & Bowels 08.22.2006 09:29 PM

what do you want with my cupboards?! and when is it that you think you're coming round exactly?

Cantankerous 08.22.2006 09:31 PM

when i come to anglund of course. i'm not going home, i'm coming to sleep on your floor and ask if i can use the stove!

Toilet & Bowels 08.22.2006 09:37 PM

are you going to sleep in the cupboard?

you can only use the stove under adult supervision.

Cantankerous 08.22.2006 09:39 PM

no, i told you! i'm going to sleep on the floor. i need use of the closet because i'm bringing all of my things with me and i assume you don't want me to throw things all over the place because you don't want your house to look like mine, which is reminiscent of sanford and son.


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