I do understand the situation... what I don't understand is why it is good for a Jew like Fugazifan to help the people you mention above... makes no sense. I do think his heart is in the right place to try to help people, his energy just seems misplaced. These people don't want his help... for the most part they want him dead.

If Israel wants a better relationship with its neighbors a good place to start would be eliminating the flood of US money being used mainly for military equipment. I hope he is protesting that as well... being thrown in jail to help people that don't want his help is a waste of resources.

how can you pretend to know what kind of Jew fugazifan is?

^^^

let's focus hatred on where hatred is due. let's blame the "Britians".

why is it good for anyone to stop the hate of the people who hate them? that doesn't make sense to you?

"help"-- he's not giving him weapons and teaching them to make bombs. what he's doing is telling, with his actions, "hey, our government may be a bunch of fucking pigs, treating you like this, but we're not all like that, and we'll work for your human rights" -- that earns more respect than bombs.

you know, every time a palestinian kid is cured of illness or wound in an israeli hospital, you have 2 parents who can't hate israel. regular people after all just want to live a decent, healthy and sufficiently prosperous life and don't care about extremist ideals.

there's such thing as a "peace offensive", you know? think about it. it may take you perhaps 6 months to digest this notion, so you should start processing it soon... see you in november, then? good...

The UK certainly has fucked up a lot of things in the world with their imperialism. I'm glad the US took care of the redcoat problem. ;)

I was tempted to quote sonic youth earlier, but decided that pictures of waffles worked better.

have you got hatemail yet, !@#!@$!%%$!@#?

lol

God man, you are sounding really fucking naive. Are people like fugazifan going to hold out a flower to the Iranians as they get ever closer to achieving the atomic bomb? These people don't want his help... they want him dead! I'm glad he wants to help but he is turning his back on his people with this kind of action. That is why he is ending up in jail over and over... and will continue to do so.

People with a good heart like fugazifan need to know where to place/put their energy and not act like a fucking PETA member in jail.

what iranians, you dumbfuck? did he go to iran and kiss the ayatollah? you dumb, ignorant, foolish, sad, sorry asswipe dumbfuck, you have no idea of what goes on in the middle east, what different peoples live there, what is the culture and the history and even what are the differences between persians and palestinians and their place in their region--- you've never been there, you haven't read a book in your life, you don't have maps, and you can't comprehend basic concepts, so go ahead and be an ignorant dumbfuck in full public view if you wish, but don't ask your "opinions" to be taken with any sort of respect-- this isn't group therapy.

eh, i have better things to do than argue with a brick, but dishing out the vitriol has been amusing, so i'll end my entertainment at this point and let you be... whatever the fuck is it that you are... and you have my deepest condolences, i'm very sorry to have learned about your condition.

This is all about me and not about the subject. Good avatar you have chosen I guess.

These should help:

That is sooo from the aughts bro.

What are aughts?

Plus I am not your brother. You seem to be assuming this because in your little community people are so inbred that everyone is pretty much your brother and then extrapolated that to the rest of the world.

haha. relax brosif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_(decade)

The aughts are back in fashion.

who profits from these "wars?"

I mean ALL wars going on right now.
someone is making BIG money supplying the weapons. Over one TRILLION is spent each year on armaments and weapons by the countries of the world. ONE TRILLION US dollars.

The world's largest arms exporters (earning more than a BILLION $ a year) are

USA
Russia
Germany
France
Ukraine
Netherlands
UK

Here is a list of the major arms manufacturers by nation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_a...ions_by_nation


war of any kind will never end as long as there is such ridiculously large amounts of money to be made.

and you have to assume that these players, like any business, invest money to develop future markets.

"They" desperately want to use Iran as the next staging area for their murder ops and profit margins.

Its not enough to build a 70 mile wall around Baghdad.

Why are the lunatical left SO anti-semitic who'd rather side with Arab terrorist groups? One can only conclude the lunatical left has been infiltrated by them.

Maybe fugazifan is not jewish.
Israel is a laic country, right?

I don't side with either.

anyways so.....
this was a fun thread to watch develop. i havent had time to write a response to it. but now i will.
yes i am jewish. i come from european descent. much of my family was murdered in the holocaust.
to make this short-
i am not helping terrorist organizations and i am not stopping israel from defending itself. kicking palestinian refugees out of their homes that they have lived in for over 50 years and letting violent settlers in instead simply because some jewish orginization has what seems to be property ownership from the ottaman empire is not in the name of national security. these palestinians also have land ownership all over israel but were kicked out of their homes in 48. because of israels discriminatory laws, jews are allowed to get back their pre 48 homes, whereas palestinians are not.

hevusa you are incredibly ignorant and unless you become a little bit more aware of the situation i feel no need to justify my actions to you beyond my two posts in this thread.
oh and to that other ignorant guy in the thread (besides KIS) who talked about all israelis should die - you can get stuffed as well.

happy to hear you're okay. I've talked to some israeli friends who aren't as brave as to protest over this but they wanted me to send some support your way in terms of being encouraging and saying your speaking out is admirable

The lunatical left are clearly really struggling in justifying their flagrant anti-semitism when arserimming Arab terrorist groups, using petty issues like housing rights all in the name of modern Marxism known as political correctness. It's painfully ironic that they're as bad as the Nazi's when following their asinine protocols. The stupid cunts.

trolls are supposed to be banned. i said before, if we get a certain number of people (10?20?) who all agree can't we ask chabib to ban it? isn't that fair?
its a troll so all it does is sap energy. it wants to drag you down to its horrible level.

its not a poster that contributes anything. its just a troll. you can rip on it, but unlike any other poster you dislike and may rip on, it won't at least try to answer you back on any of your points or engage with you.

for example posters here that don't like me and that i don't like... we may rip on each other and hold our grudges but they can at least make for fun back and forths or even be resolved at some point or make for a good argument. if i get ripped apart or if they do, its still part of the actual discussion. not with the kis troll. noone can do this with that troll. because he is not here to contribute.

why the fuck hasn't he been banned already? take this as bitchy if you will but you would expect a troll to be banned before it hits 2000+ posts.

it's not that what he says, about leftists or marxists is particularily offensive, and im trying to stop people from talking shit about those groups. it is that he is only saying these things as a troll, and is incapable of actually entering into discussion. if he acted the way he did about right wingers or christians it would still be trolling. if he was capable of actual discussion it would be great. i would love a right winger that actually held opinions and was able to defend them. but as ive said again and again that is not possible with it.

If we ban people they will just return in other guises. So there's not too much point unless we put in place an IP ban (but that may block other users from the site).

we banned charles webster. when he shows up again he just gets banned again. if kis shows up again he can just get banned when he starts trollin and we work out who he is. simple

I don't really think it does.

Took care of the problem, and then took care of the problems in the Philippines, Vietnam, Iran, Panama, Chile, Guatamala, Nicaragua, Indonesia, Korea, Iraq, Lebanon, Cambodia, Liberia, Zaire, East Timor, El Salvador, Afghanistan, Colombia, etc.

Much of my family was murdered during the holocaust as well. It is why I'm an American today.

Your government has those laws in place because these people hate your country and its people. It is the governments job to protect its people against harm, foreign or domestic. The people you are helping are attacking you on a daily basis and wouldn't mind seeing you dead. They obviously can't co-exist with you, that hasn't worked for... well, EVER. So I certainly admire you for having your heart in the right place but what good are you going to be for anyone in jail? And obviously this is a generalization, not every single non Jew in the area hates you. But I would venture to guess saying most hate you is correct... simply because of your DNA! Iran is about to take you off the face of the map and you are worrying about what your government is doing to people that don't give a rats ass about you?!?

I'm so sick and tired of religion and the religious bullcrap that will never cease spewing out of your homeland Fugazifan. The Jews should not have been granted that land in the first place. If you want peace you need to leave Israel. If you want to help Israel (zionist) you need to defend it. Or if you want to play mother teresa and help your enemy you can waste your time in jail or with legal trouble.

I am all for animal rights, here in America, but I wouldn't go to jail over it. There are other ways to affect change.

God, you're still persisting with absolute fuckwittery. We all live in castles. The French live on a diet of cheese and garlic. I never met a Spaniard who didn't fuck dogs. The Chinese cheat at poker. America is the only country. Africans all bathe in AIDS. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE PERSON IN ONE COUNTRY AT ANY ONE TIME.

Did hamas not just get elected? Or are you a fuckface?
There is so much hatred of Jews in the world... you have no idea.

The road is paved with gold would be the correct one for America. ;)

I was going out with a Jew for a long time. There's plenty of disdain towards Israel, plenty of anti-semitism, lots of confusion, and I've been on the receiving end of some nasty goyim sentiment. I'm just saying that you're reducing everything to a single position. fugazifan represents Israel, the state, the people, the religion, as much as anyone else. The few Palestinians I know are lovely and tolerant people. Reducing it all to single position, unitary dialogues, is just detrimental to the sort of nuanced understanding that !£$% is trying to get across.

^^^

does this mean that it's yr turn to hold the SYG*P*Q*R standard?

it's heavy, but the gold and blue eagle looks lovely in the sun.

I see what you are saying... and I totally agree. I guess things come out a bit black & white on the internets. I think if we all sat down in a room together and actually talked things would be a bit more clear.

I went to high school for a few years in Sweden who took in many muslim refugees from various wars. They all knew I was part Jewish and we all got along great. I know that most people are moderates and generally nice people who get pulled into religious shitstorms because of extremist factions from both the left and right fringe. So I understand what Fugazifan is doing is just. I guess I just get a little emotional because of the hate I have seen my family experience through the years.

I think views get amplified in that region due to the belief in the divine, which is so silly. Without a belief in God everyone in that region could find a much easier path to peace. That shit is going to come to a Islamic-Jewish-Christian head (sexy).

You forgot about the Native Americans!
And what do you think the European Union is? An extension of the same arm.

So Fugazifan... do you believe the state of Israel was created (and sustained by US money) just so the Jewish population could be in place for the rapture? I wouldn't put it past the religious fundamentalists in America to think this way.

Or do you think it is a strategic ally location to gain access to the middle east oil, the last substantial natural source of energy in the world?

for the record, I'm all for Native Americans taking up guns and pushing whitey back across the Atlantic.


me? I'll be going across the Pacific.

Their guns are casinos now.
oh.. you mean the buffalo don't you. i want yr drugs.

You going to Japan or something?

It's painfully ironic to hear you of all people compare anyone to a nazi.

And the pain minus the irony applies doubly to your use of the nonword lunatical

Jewish chicks are HOT