Is there any difference between the Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi USA Reissue, and the Electro-Harmonix Big Muff USA Reissue? What the fuck's "Pi"?

its the same. pi is the sign on it, you know the thing that they use for math???

are you going for the sovtek one or usa?

Oh, stupid me...just kept seeing reviews for both, as if there were two versions...

Hmmm, dunno which one yet, guess i'll check them both out. From what I've read the US one sounds most likely.

The Frequency Analyzer kicks ass. Not as much functionality on it as a moog, but I get a lot of use out of it. Listen for it at the end of this song:

http://download.yousendit.com/F6E5CA44561234EF

It has a lot more uses than that, but since it (and the moog) are both sine wave ring mods, they have a much cleaner sound than other ring mods, and you can get chimey, metallic, and bell like stuff. You can make them sound more vintage if you put a fuzz before them.



Oh, and whoever was asking about crybabies- don't get one, they suck tone like mad. I've never noticed any pedal I've ever owned sucking tone, but a crybaby definitely does.


Also, whoever was talking about true bypass- you don't want everything true bypass, because you can still have a signal loss from all that wiring. You want atleast one buffer in your signal chain too.

Cool song, the Analyzer sounds great!

i got the electro harmonix dvd and the freq analyzer sounds great. cant be bothered to download this one

I have the Moog and EH ring modulators, and there are cool things about both of them. The EH one sounds warmer to me honestly. The moog has a definite higher fidelity to it but the EH sounds rounder to me. I think they are excellent for both their respective prices.

The French Toast is really a great pedal for the price. I wouldn't say it sounds like a ring modulator, well i guess you can get atonal klangy sounds out of it, so it could be a cheap imitation. I was on another board talking about how it beats the recent Fender Blender I got at a fraction of the price.

thanks for the sample, sounds very bell like in the outro indeed.

the usher, don't take it that seriously about me saying you should sell the ds2, it's just my opinion, if you're pleased with its sound then stick with it y'know.:cool:

no need, they are all at the bottom of this page. the dvd comes with all the bigger pedals now.
http://ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?q=f&f=%2FCatalog%2F01%5FNew%5FProducts %2F01%5FEH%5FDVD

ProCo Rat2
 

Anyone have any familiarty with this one? It seems Thurston uses the Turbo version...

Lets talk Rat people...opinions, thoughts etc.

RN

I have a Turbo Rat, but the Deluxe Big Muff I just got seriously blew it away (see avatar) - so much more alive sounding. Turbo Rats are said to have 'more gain and less sustain' than regular Rats. I find it great for rhythm guitars, having a more transparent sound (better note definition, less of a 'wall of sound'). But now that I can blend a clean tone with the fuzz on the Muff, that's the sound I have been wanting.

buzzo- i must disagree...i really tried to like the vox more but i couldn't...the crybaby's tone is so choice.

and for any effects noobs asking - i say buy delay, tremolo, and reverb, as these will change your life...and if you must buy distortion, then go with a muff or rat, as many on here have suggested...and in general, especially considering resale value and quality, Boss/Roland is top-notch stuff (without going super high end)...

Just so everyone knows, I hate my FAB overdrive pedal. It blows, and it's far too quiet. I guess it's good for the price, but still...

My friend has a fab distortion, and he can get some really killer tones out of it. He uses it on a low gain setting with his strat going into a vibralux. He gets some really nice chimey sounds out of it.

Distortion or overdrive? I've not played the distortion.

The distortion, only fab pedal I've heard/tried.

dude, i have all of those videos, got them with the big muff.

RATS... never tried the turbo rat, i do have just the rat and it does the job for me... as i wanted a distortion box that would fit somewhere between the clean tone on my fender twin and the jump blast to my bigmuff, the rat has enough spikey bite to cut through without taking it the next level with ultra noisey feedback and sustain, for that kinda stuff i use the bigmuff... but when i run the rat in conjunction with the muff its totally intense chaotic insanity, so much sustain it rules.

i pretty easily modded my russian muff reissue, clipped off one of the capicators (if you open the unit up and look at the circuitboard, it be the green capacitor that runs vertically below the LED, before clipping it run a piece of wire between the two wire points, plug in the unit and listen to the difference) so i replaced it with just a piece of wire it noticabley increased the gain and bass response in a beneficial way to me to where it sounds like a souped-up original, again its quite easy to do because you don't have to remove the jacks which are cheap and too easily breakable on these muffs... i did the mod again though it was slightly more challenging on another bigmuff (they are relatively cheap) such that i added a switch to go from the orginal sound to the new higher gain/bass sound. though the 2 are slightly different sounding, its not uncommon for any pedal of the same type to be slightly different. years ago i tried the USA reissue and thought it was too uncontrollable and horrible sounding... very muddy fuzz and very small control on the gain, but that was years ago before i know what i know now. though i have no need to go back to that. tried a little bigmuff since i liked how compact it looked and also thinking it would give a sound inbetween the russian and the USA reissues... but i was wrong, and was not pleased with it sounded too muddy at all settings.

nice. i might get a rat if i have some spare money some day.

Get a job. You live at home right? Think of all the gear you could buy.

yeah, i save my lunch money so every week i get 15euros.

preety awesome huh?

im getting a jazzy next then a new amp and then some effects though

Decided to stick w/ my hendrix octave fuzz over the danelectro french toast i got cheap yesterday, the octave tone is alot more interesting sounding on the dunlop so i had the other guitarist in my band try the french toast and he is using it now.

anyone tried/have a Digitech Space Station? a couple of years ago an ex-bandmate from one of my previous bands had one and i used it for a short period of time before the band broke up and he took it with him, anyway its i remember it being one of the sickest multi-modulation effects i ever used, crazy reverse, ring modulation, filters ...etc etc all controllabel with a foot pedal. they are no longer made so unfortunately because of that they go for $300 - $400 on eBay...

The string effect it does ion on the Digitech EX-7 now.

The bass player who plays with me has one of those, and a guy I used to play with also used one. It's a very cool pedal; the way those guys used it, it kind of made their instruments sound like some kind of huge, spaced-out string section. It's pretty majestic.
I should have bought one when they came out. They weren't all that expensive, even.

I was just listening to all these Space Station sound samples last night, very cool pedal.
http://www.thepedalboards.com/spacestation/index.html

i want a tremolo, ive been thinking about the carl martin surf trem

how about the marshall vibratrem?

that digitech one comes up with some freaky stuff indeed, too bad they're no longer in production, that carl martin surf trem looks sweet and ain't that pricey either, if i wouldnt've had that cheapass double dano deal (pepperoni phaser/tuna melt trem) i prolly would've bought the carl martin one, seems like it has fewer options than the tuna melt tho, heard bad things about the boss trem..never actually tried it ..but the surf trem..well..it does look waaay better than those danelectros. =P

The tuna melt is cool except for that volume drop, but most trems have that.

I'm selling my Boss BD-2 mainly so I'll be able to get something cool in a few weeks when I get some money for xmas.

I'm thinking Boss DD-20, an EHX tube pedal, EHX clone theory, EHX polychorus, Catalinbread Semaphore, or something else entirely. There are a lot of options in that 150 or less market.

i dont want lots of pedals. five at least.

can you estimate how much i would get for my korg ax10g multy effect and my ds1?

i really dont need these 2 pedals now

live godamnit, live!

It's alive!

You know what I might do with my money from selling my BD-2 and from Xmas is to rehouse my PB+J and also build a sequencer like I've been planning on for way too long now.

im definately thinking about getting the carl martin. people say it sounds kinda vintagey vox tremolo, which is best

Cool, I'm not familiar with vox amp trem, but if it is anything like fender trem, then it should be awesome.

all of you who want some blue box soundclips

download dinosaur jr live shows on freesofree.net

especially download 'dinosaurs are still alive' its awesome, and j uses it quite often there

blue box ftw ! i use it on bass as well as on geetarr, it can go from unpredictable/messy with some ring mod stuff going on or just very tight sub octaving for super dooper seventies like solos, it's great if you put it right before a good fuzz pedal.

but y'know, what's even cooler is the fact that i received a SY longsleeve savage girlie from Kung FU in the mail today :eek:

happy-mode /on. :p

i tried the bb with a bass yesterday. fucking amazing.

live thread live you bastard

I think I'm getting this "Free Fuzz" pedal... (company: BBE) I asked for it 'cos it's cheap, in stock, and fuzz. I need some fuzz...

thats like a fuzzface