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nicfit 12.06.2010 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples
i think you can say it's their fault

Sure, and if you listen to a band playing live on a tv show, and your tv has broken speakers it's clearly the band's fault if you hear nothing.
And every recording is perfect and there's no chance someone will screw up the audio of a band playing on stage. It's impossible.
Absolutely.
you guys are so fun I need to take a dump.

p.s. I already said they probably are shit anyway live, it's just not a good reason to dismiss a band music altogether, coz recorded output can differ vastly from the lvie rendition of the tracks...

kinn 12.06.2010 04:42 PM

what the fuck.

we meant the shitness of the mix is a supplement to the shitness of the performance which is in itself shit.

obviously.

nicfit 12.06.2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
p.s. I already said they probably are shit anyway live, it's just not a good reason to dismiss a band music altogether, coz recorded output can differ vastly from the live rendition of the tracks...


I need to eat more carrots, I want orange poo.

kinn 12.06.2010 05:04 PM

i dismissed their music altogether when i heard it.

kinn 12.06.2010 05:04 PM

and your faeces.

shit.

havent even heard them.

psy fuxin chick

keep poppin pimples 12.06.2010 05:11 PM

what are you talking "it's the bands fault if you hear nothing"

i don't hear nothing, the sound quality is not that bad, i can hear what's happening fine, the situation is not anywhere near that

i mean look at it this way, django reinhardt's recordings don't have good sound quality either but people think he's a good guitarist.

that's fine because even though the fidelity isn't perfect you can hear the notes and rhythms etc. pretty well, which is alot different than hearing nothing. i agree, it's not fair to judge a band if you hear nothing.

i've enjoyed things with much worse sound.


it's not the sound that ruined it for me.

it's the fact that the music consists of a synth going OOoooOOoooOO while a guy from north who doesn't have a deep voice tries to sound like a rapper with a very deep voice and very thick southern accent

he doesn't do anything interesting with his vocal tone(unnappealing) or rhythm(clumsy)

so the only thing that changes in the course of the track is the lyrics.

the lyrics try to create a dark and intimidating atmosphere but don't do so

he keeps doing this semi-contradicting thing which is totally uninteresting "i could get you right, but you ain't tryin ta get right" "i talk real loud, i don't wanna hear myself" "i'd kill myself, haaa, not myself"

while trying to create some kind of mystical,demented atmosphere through his lyrics he says stuff like

"you down with shit, now my dick hard go down on it haaa"

seriously if talking about choking ghosts out of people and coming back to life and shit jocular toilet humour does not enchance the sort of atmosphere you are trying to create with music


recorded output can differ vastly from onstage sure, but i don't want to listen to the recorded output of the guy who did one of the worst performances i've ever seen. the fact that this guy sucks that bad live and was willing to go on stage is just embarassing

i mean this was genuinely one of the worst things i've ever heard i'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt because the sound quality wasn't absolutely perfect, the only thing i had any diffculty hearing was the bassline, and the best bassline of all time could not save that performance

kinn 12.06.2010 05:13 PM

lol

kinn 12.06.2010 05:14 PM

 

nicfit 12.06.2010 05:22 PM

lol

kinn 12.06.2010 05:26 PM

smeglam or watuvar they cald is their falt 4 bein shit.

dont know how to party like fagotrix mc'tophat here

 


leave them motherfuckers behind in the dust

 


wolf knows crack is wack

Derek 12.06.2010 05:29 PM

I remember when the girl I used to like told me my style was "geek sheek".

I assume 'sheek' meant 'chic' but by golly, I felt somewhat patronised.

Ghostchase 12.06.2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Either way, FLUOERESCENT GREY is a great EP. And Crpytograms has a good flow to it. While not doing anything particularly "special", they're just breezy drowsy sleep inducing pop stuff.

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Well put. Nothing to overblown, they just write perfect pop songs with a lot of character.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 12.07.2010 03:33 AM

I'd just like to state that it is my personal opinion that Gucci Mane is the only emcee on the radio today worth listening to.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 12.07.2010 07:57 AM

Hayden/nicfit - http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2010/0...tching-midwest

nicfit 12.07.2010 01:23 PM

tl dr but honestly I have no idea why I started to say stuff about their live vid and shit, do kinn/poppin , forget everything I said, there was no actual point to all that stuff.
I still do love good portions of their recorded output, but I'm not much interested at all in the "people" behind that music (interviews and stuff), dunno why, perhaps coz they remind me of Jay.
Thanks anyway doktor, bookmarked in the meantime.
I hope it's a fun read.

kinn 12.09.2010 11:32 AM

isss hard to mamaba, iss arrdd ouh la bamba, is whaaa hura we huavunt done yaaahhh, isss eassy tuu laaaaat goo, of avarthing youuuuu knooow, aaand say gooo'byeee tu those guys,

is har' to mamaba, wuh we dih' las' novambuh, iss har tu furgah', wha' we havin done yeahhht.

is hah' to amamba, wuh we dih' las' novambuh, iss har tu furgah', wha' we havin done yeaahhht.


iss easu tu lah' go, of evrythin you knoaw, and sey goo'bi, tu al those guys.

kinn 12.09.2010 11:41 AM

fuk tat crackho.

lissen tu reele muscck

Genteel Death 12.09.2010 02:47 PM

Animal Collective + Joanna Newsom + Deerhunter + Ariel Pink + Vampire Weekend + Antony and The Johnsons + Radiohead + Coco Rosie: If you read all these names in one go you have 10 seconds to find the nearest hospital bed because you're about to fall into a coma.

kinn 12.09.2010 02:49 PM

all those bands are crap yes.

Skuj 12.10.2010 01:39 AM

 

kinn 12.10.2010 09:15 AM

can there be anything more redundant in 20fuckin10 than the achingly self concious irony of people who listen to crap indie and play the game of being a hipster by disavowing it? didn't think so. can there be anyone that is fooled by this move, creating the false impression of a sense of individuality by its lack of appearance because you just make a list of references to things that are shit/too indie. oh please yes. more of this please. the endless regurgitation of hipsterrunoff/vice magazine "humour" which is basically pretending to be a nihilist that needs an endless stream of the right commodity accessories. that "knows" that it's all crap really, nevertheless tries to buoy up their own stupid hedonic positivity because of this with dated 90's cynicism humour. i'm sorry but when it comes down to it i would just rob you.

you listen to shit music. people that don't like it aren't trying to be "underground" as some sort of a pose. you are the one playing those games. this music is utter crap so deal with it, or do whatever. i do not care. i do not care enough to defend my own taste or denigrate yours any further.

Skuj 12.10.2010 09:49 AM

Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest - superb album.

Skuj 12.10.2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kinn
can there be anything more redundant in 20fuckin10 than the achingly self concious irony of people who listen to crap indie and play the game of being a hipster by disavowing it? didn't think so. can there be anyone that is fooled by this move, creating the false impression of a sense of individuality by its lack of appearance because you just make a list of references to things that are shit/too indie. oh please yes. more of this please. the endless regurgitation of hipsterrunoff/vice magazine "humour" which is basically pretending to be a nihilist that needs an endless stream of the right commodity accessories. that "knows" that it's all crap really, nevertheless tries to buoy up their own stupid hedonic positivity because of this with dated 90's cynicism humour. i'm sorry but when it comes down to it i would just rob you.

you listen to shit music. people that don't like it aren't trying to be "underground" as some sort of a pose. you are the one playing those games. this music is utter crap so deal with it, or do whatever. i do not care. i do not care enough to defend my own taste or denigrate yours any further.


Actually, I'm very confused by this. There are....contradictions.

SonicBebs 12.10.2010 01:52 PM

i really like halcyon digest too


*pointless post*

SONIC GAIL 12.10.2010 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Animal Collective + Joanna Newsom + Deerhunter + Ariel Pink + Vampire Weekend + Antony and The Johnsons + Radiohead + Coco Rosie: If you read all these names in one go you have 10 seconds to find the nearest hospital bed because you're about to fall into a coma.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah or kill yrself

noisereductions 12.10.2010 02:13 PM

this thread sucks.

noisereductions 12.10.2010 02:13 PM

I dont even feel like we discuss music anymore most of the time. We just say "alright everyone who likes this band on this side... everyone who doesnt like this band over there... ok fucking tugowar!"

Derek 12.10.2010 02:17 PM

This forum is abysmal for discussing music.

noisereductions 12.10.2010 02:26 PM

for the most part, yeah. The best music discussions I've had in the past year on here were probably done via PM.

Skuj 12.10.2010 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
I dont even feel like we discuss music anymore most of the time. We just say "alright everyone who likes this band on this side... everyone who doesnt like this band over there... ok fucking tugowar!"



That was the point of my "pointless post" above. I think.

Skuj 12.10.2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
This forum is abysmal for discussing music.


I dunno....there's some good threads/discussions. But look what was said on the first 2 pages here about those who might like Deerhunter. I admit I lost it by page 4 or whatever.

noisereductions 12.10.2010 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
I dunno....there's some good threads/discussions. But look what was said on the first 2 pages here about those who might like Deerhunter. I admit I lost it by page 4 or whatever.


yeah we barely discuss music as much as each other's taste. Or whatever.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 12.10.2010 11:56 PM

What other way is there to go about discussing music? Just out of curiosity. I mean, you're obviously going to have strong opinions on both sides of the fence, no matter what band/artist is being discussed.

SpaceCadetHayden 12.11.2010 12:05 AM

REMEMBER, I'm fucking off 99.9999% of the time. I have good conversations about music on here I feel, I don't fall into the 'you're fucking bland/ironic/blahblahblah' nearly as much as I used to.

For the record, I don't pretend I'm not a hipster, though. I'm so fucking trendfuck it's disgusting.

davenotdead 12.11.2010 12:07 AM

joanna newsom is a goddess

SpaceCadetHayden 12.11.2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
joanna newsom is a goddess


Before she learned how to sing properly.

Skuj 12.11.2010 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davenotdead
joanna newsom is a goddess


HOOM is AOY for me. Well...maybe Kanye is. Or Deerhunter.

SYRFox 12.11.2010 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
What other way is there to go about discussing music? Just out of curiosity. I mean, you're obviously going to have strong opinions on both sides of the fence, no matter what band/artist is being discussed.

Constructive discussion ? Strong opinions do not mean that no discussion not involving "my taste is better than yours and your music fucking sucks" is possible

Genteel Death 12.11.2010 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
I dunno....there's some good threads/discussions. But look what was said on the first 2 pages here about those who might like Deerhunter. I admit I lost it by page 4 or whatever.

Not that I'm really bothered by what you listen to either way, but you do start thread after thread about mediocre artists. Why are you surprised about the outcome?
I'm also wondering why some of the posters on this thread are complaining about the lack of a music discussion on here, when a quick run through their posts shows a continuous mantra of ''the best'', ''the worst'', ''my favourite'', ''I don't like it'' etc. Not exactly fertile ground for interesting music discussion.

SYRFox 12.11.2010 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Not that I'm really bothered by what you listen to either way, but you do start thread after thread about mediocre artists. Why are you surprised about the outome?
I'm also wondering why some of the posters on this thread are complaining about the lack of a music discussion on here, when a quick run through their posts shows a continuous mantra of ''the best'', ''the worst'', ''my favourite'', ''I don't like it'' etc. Not exactly fertile ground for interesting music discussion.

there's no point in elaborating complex opinions on what you like and what you don't like when you know that the only answers you'll get will be "kill yrself", "yr taste suck" or "exactly !" - if you get an answer at all


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