I'm listening to the Bob Larson interview now. It's about 5 minutes in and already hilarious.

Look,i think that you have to read inbetween the lines of what he says and you need to know his motivations to REALLY understand what Boyd Rice is getting at with comments like that.

Oh OK I take it back then about the gay bashing. I forget why I thought that. I read a bunch of interviews with him a few years ago and memory is a little fuzzy... For a while I was really into stuff like Answer Me!!, Boyd Rice, Lydia Lunch, GG Allin, Nick Zedd, Richard Kern, etc...

By the way there are a couple great NON and Throbbing Gristle videos on www.youtube.com

back on topic, everyone keeps mentioning rammstein and manson, but how can you guys forget the first band which had the violent industrial approach combined with hardcore rhythms and martial lyrics???

PRONG guys, c'mon already. PRONG!!! with Ted Parsons from THE SWANS on drums... how can't you see this is easily the best industrial band out there??? they developed that sound...

check out CLEANSING or RUDE AWAKENING...

http://www.boydrice.com/home.html

Click on Audio/ Video, and the interviews are there. They're fucking brilliant.

Aceness.

i think prong are more in line with the whole helmet kinda school of punk/metal shit that was happening back then than with industrial, even thought they did use a lot of samples.

The podcast is a divine call from the Gods of hearing.

just read the facts and questions page, there is some funny shit on there:

"If others choose to see the world in terms of sugar, spice and everything nice, that's certainly their prerogative, and I would never dream of trying to tell them otherwise. However, I might suggest that they always keep a loaded pistol on the off chance that they could possibly be mistaken."

"Time and time again I've been called a Nazi because I've shown an interest in the Third Reich. I'm also obsessively fascinated with Walt Disney and Disneyland, but I've yet to be labeled a Mouseketeer..."

Haha.One of my favourite Saint Etienne songs on there!Awesome!

HE'S THE MAN!!

......and the motherfucker is also playing Girls Garage stuff wich is just too much goodness crammed in 1 hour and 26 minutes for me!

I think that modern noise music has alot more in commen with the original industrial music than it does with modern industrial. Wolf Eyes, Prurient, Emil Beaulieau, etc. all would have been considered industrial if they were working in the 1970s. The newer music that I have heard that is filed under industrial sounds more like cheesy techno with bad vocals and midrangey guitars and has strayed far from the original ideas, or at least that is what I hear...

This is an obvious comment but I thought I would throw it out anyways

some wolf eyes does defiantly have an industrial edge, and most noise artists owe some to early industrial, but i still think its a whole nother beast.

I think, sonically, I can see the 'new-noise' bands being a lot like early industrial, but I think there is a great deal more intelligence (and often Englishness) to the industrial stuff which keeps me coming back.

You haven't experienced industrial unless you've heard skinny puppy. Especially if you're into the shock value of this genre...
quite fucked up i might add.


They were the main influence on bands such as throbing gristle, nine inch nails, etc.

sorry but throbbing gristle influenced skinny puppy, tg started way before sp.

I was going to make a giant lex luthorish post and end it in WRONG! commenting her post. Skinny Puppy is boring, though.

Well maybe now music is more visceral. What is more intelligent about early industrial?

fuck, that's what i meant. Whatever. I'm glad someone corrected it