Yes, I would also recommend not listening to anything I say. Apart from the Jacks, I refuse to believe anyone wants to come up with a defence of them.

Word. I'm surprised Catherine Wheel are even remembered - they're in my head-category as being a bit like 18 Wheeler, ie, utterly forgotten for good reason.

I thought L'un Marquer was one of the rubbish WWVV records to be honest and I like Davenport better than them as well.

Each of you ignored my question considering Live Skull.

anyway, to add a few more, I've heard some bits and pieces from these and they left me wanting to hear more:

The Residents
Caroliner
lots of japanese noisefucks and psych rockers
Whitehouse
Muslimgauze
Khanate

I don't have any muslimgauze albums but someone once gave me a cd with a couple of tracks of his and i liked them.

I bought an album a few years ago. I only listened to it once. I realised I had to get a present for a mate and shouldn't've been spending money I didn't have. So he has it now. He likes it a lot. I should re-invest in some I think.

Bong Ra I would like to own more music by, but have been disappointed with everything I've found thus far (although I know Peel played some ra I really liked).

Wasn't he as prolific as Merzbow?I wouldn't know where to start if it came to buying any of his albums.If someone knows his music better than i do,please suggest.

Oh and in regard to Third Eye Foundation, the cover for 'You guys kill me' merits a special mention:

yeah muslimgauze put out zillions of records i think.

i bought a bong ra CD last year, somehow it sounded really good in the shop but when i put it on at home...

Isn't Muslimgauze kind of the Tupac of his own genre?Even after he died the new releases where pouring out by the day.Hehe.

Yeah, if memory serves, he had this weird sort of kudos as living in a sea shack on the coast of rural Wales, no-one knew anything about him, and the post-humous releases are into the hundreds now.

18 Wheeler have to be one those bands whose records pratically lived in a bargain bin box from the second day they came out.What,in the name of God,is a 18 Wheeler song?

Give me Out of my hair anytime.At least he had a couple of good songs.

18 wheeler along side whipping boy, scarfo & bennet

And what about Rialto?Eh?

There are a suprisingly large number of people that hold a torch for Catherine Wheel.

As for Ride, Nowhere is their best album by far IMO. I saw them on that tour and they were truly incredible. They wound up disappointing me later, but for a while they were one of the best rock bands going.

''Do you remeber about us?Best dressed band in Britain for 2 nights and then fuck all.One of us was collecting glasses in the The Monarch for a while till he went on to manage Bloc Party.''

porkmarras: Stardust is still a top song though.

Oh and I forgot to mention Loop. They were an inspiration for Circle and in fact, early Circle sounds considerably similar to Loop.

I wonder if anyone on here is curious to hear a band called Thee Hypnotics.If you are not,you should well be.

Everyone should have Loop records in their houses.They are better than life insurances.And they don't cost as much.