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knox 07.02.2010 11:16 AM

it was awful to watch.
sorry, holland was not PLAYING football.

knox 07.02.2010 11:17 AM

what? dunga is the portuguese name of one of the seven dwarves in snow white.
well, the one with a slight learning disability.

demonrail666 07.02.2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
the first goal was a fuckup by julio cesar and felipe melo, but that 2nd goal was faster than a fucking bullet-- nobody even saw it except the ones who made it. that was a great great play.


The Brazillian defence gave Kuytt a free header from that corner, letting him nod it on to Sneijder.

!@#$%! 07.02.2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by knox
felipe melo is getting unprecedented media bashing


well deserved. sometimes people make mistakes, but to stomp on robben's knee like that was fucking low and asking to get fucked without any concern for consequences. totally self-centered and beyond stupid. sure, holland was being allowed to get away with shit but you suck up your shitty angry fits and play to win.

knox 07.02.2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Dunga (Portuguese for “dopey,” btw) is gonna get absolutely slaughtered in Brazil over this.


no, he won't. felipe will.

!@#$%! 07.02.2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by knox
what? dunga is the portuguese name of one of the seven dwarves in snow white.
well, the one with a slight learning disability.


dopey. he was short when he was a kid and his uncle nicknamed him, the bastard.

 


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Originally Posted by demonrail666
The Brazillian defence gave Kuytt a free header from that corner, letting him nod it on to Sneijder.


everybody gives away corner kicks but not everybody scores like that. this was a prepared play and a brilliant one.

demonrail666 07.02.2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by knox
what? dunga is the portuguese name of one of the seven dwarves in snow white.
well, the one with a slight learning disability.


His name comes from a nickname he had as a child, given to him in reference to Dopey from Snow White. His actual name is Carlos Caetano Bledorn Verri

knox 07.02.2010 11:25 AM

to be perfectly fair the average brazilian person will still respect them just as much because its more important for them that brazil plays the way its supposed to play (what they call real football) then it is to resort to shitty strategies to win.

on that note, felipe is completely fucked because that behaviour is 100% unacceptable in brazilian football.

but they were getting away with too much shit.

brazilians are generally humble enough to accept and admit when they shouldn't deserve to win but this time it doesn't feel that way?

knox 07.02.2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
His name comes from a nickname he had as a child, given to him in reference to Dopey from Snow White. His actual name is Carlos Caetano Bledorn Verri


What I meant is in portuguese dunga does not mean anything other than the dwarf. And that it was because he was short, I don't think he's dopey at all?

!@#$%! 07.02.2010 11:29 AM

you know brazil was abusing that play when in the midfield they pass back w/ the heel (de taquito, how do you say that?), it worked once, twice, but they kept doing it & the dutch figured it out and started taking the balls in midfield. brazil lost a lot of balls there.

brazil didn't take the full advantage in the first half and they blew chunks once holland went on the attack. when robben is at the edge of the penalty area nobody is safe and holland actually dominated the midfiled, with a lot of fouls, but they did not let brazil play.

!@#$%! 07.02.2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by knox
What I meant is in portuguese dunga does not mean anything other than the dwarf. And that it was because he was short, I don't think he's dopey at all?


DOPEY IS THE NAME OF THE DWARF IN ENGLISH. we're not calling him stupid.

regardless, his uncle was a bastard for making fun of his stunted growth.

knox 07.02.2010 11:32 AM

fucking fouls, a lot of fucking fouls, blantantly pre-arranged like
OK if you must you'll have to resort to ANYTHING.

this is why caucasian people should only be allowed to sit in smelly libraries.
ruined my wekeend. i need to go set things on fire.

knox 07.02.2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
DOPEY IS THE NAME OF THE DWARF IN ENGLISH. we're not calling him stupid.

regardless, his uncle was a bastard for making fun of his stunted growth.


I KNOW THAT.
I just wanted to say that (once again), in portuguese dunga does not mean ANYTHING.

I do think it's a good sounding name DUN-GA.
you know brazilian football is going downhill whent they can't think of good nicknames anymore (kaká does not count)

demonrail666 07.02.2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
everybody gives away corner kicks but not everybody scores like that. this was a prepared play and a brilliant one.


It wasn't them giving the corner away but how they defended it when it was taken.

Either way, Sneijder definitely did well to score regardless of Brazil's failure (or not) to mark Kyutt.

Anyway, more than that, Holland have to beat either Uruguay or Ghana in the semis and I'd have to fancy them against either of those.

An all-Eurotrash final looks increasingly likely from where I'm standing. I think Germany may be too organised for Argentina and I can't see anything but a Spain win against Paraguay.

Rob Instigator 07.02.2010 11:37 AM

all that matters is what the final score is.

brazil can eat shit now.

jon boy 07.02.2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by knox
hold on.
yeah, which underdog?
and also, on our terms that's not being beaten, that's not even playing football. you need to score goals, which they did only once. the rest is mindgames and twaterry and previously planned foul after foul thats why its so annoying.


if brazil are favorites then holland must be the underdog as they haven't won the world cup five times.

!@#$%! 07.02.2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
It wasn't them giving the corner away but how they defended it when it was taken.

Either way, Sneijder definitely did well to score regardless of Brazil's failure (or not) to mark Kyutt.

Anyway, more than that, Holland have to beat either Uruguay or Ghana in the semis and I'd have to fancy them against either of those.

An all-Eurotrash final looks increasingly likely from where I'm standing. I think Germany may be too organised for Argentina and I can't see anything but a Spain win against Paraguay.


i don't wanna think anything at this point. i'll just watch one game at a time. and make breakfast. i'm not even hungry-- very fucking and annoying result, today. this team was my favorite to win but the way they fell apart was a blow. i'm gonna have to pin my hopes on argentina, but who knows.

ok. breakfast.

davenotdead 07.02.2010 11:41 AM

lol at brazil's composure in the 2nd half. congrats to the Dutch. they dominated the tempo

knox 07.02.2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
if brazil are favorites then holland must be the underdog as they haven't won the world cup five times.


no i dont think anybody thinks of holland as 'underdog'

go paraguay

demonrail666 07.02.2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
you know brazil was abusing that play when in the midfield they pass back w/ the heel (de taquito, how do you say that?), it worked once, twice, but they kept doing it & the dutch figured it out and started taking the balls in midfield. brazil lost a lot of balls there.

brazil didn't take the full advantage in the first half and they blew chunks once holland went on the attack. when robben is at the edge of the penalty area nobody is safe and holland actually dominated the midfiled, with a lot of fouls, but they did not let brazil play.


I think in the first half, Brazil were on cruise control, expecting to just stroll to a 1 or 2-0 victory and, to be honest, until that own goal, it looked like that'd be the case. It's not a slur on Holland's second half performance but I do think Brazil panicked after that equaliser, and just lost any structure. They're set up to counter-attack and once Holland scored they knew they'd have to chase the game and they simply weren't equipped to do it. They just imploded, lost all discipline and if anything were lucky not to have gone down 3-1. Absolutely well done to holland but I think Brazil have only themselves to blame for the final result.

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i don't wanna think anything at this point. i'll just watch one game at a time. and make breakfast.



sorry, enjoy your breakfast.


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