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Antagon 12.20.2020 09:15 PM

Gonna get tested again on Wednesday. And depending on the result, I may or may not visit my old folks in another province for a day or so over the holidays. I'd really rather not, because epidemiologically speaking I see no reason to gather right now. But my father recently had a setback, they discovered another tumor and he's back to radiotherapy. Both my sister and I are like "Yeah, we oughta spend some time with him.". On the other hand, we're like "But we really don't want to unwittingly infect him with anything either". The government has relaxed measures from Dec 24 to Dec 25. Of course they have. So now everyone can be on their merry way spreading that shit nicely. Initially, I was like "Yeah, everyone will understand that this year is probably not the best year to meet up all at once.". Shit's giving me a headache.


At least, the measures will be intact by New Year's Eve again. I see no reason to celebrate that year anyway. It simply didn't earn that honor.

_tunic_ 12.21.2020 07:30 AM

Europe mainland has started to isolate the UK, claiming that it's due to the more infectious Corona variant. I wonder how long it will take them to figure out that we're just fed up with your brexit! :D

h8kurdt 12.21.2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_
Europe mainland has started to isolate the UK, claiming that it's due to the more infectious Corona variant. I wonder how long it will take them to figure out that we're just fed up with your brexit! :D


Don't get me started on that. An absolute cluster fuck all coming at once for here. If a no-deal Brexit ends up happening then it's only gonna be worse. Woo. Roll on 2021...

In other news, Americans are gonna be getting another $600 payment. 8 months after the last one. That'll help people perfectly. Just as people are literally spending hours queueing to get help from food banks.

We need a revolution.

Savage Clone 12.21.2020 10:16 AM

Insultingly low. There’s literally no place in the country where the average rent is $600 a month.
At least we on the left Can get back to publicly hating Nancy Pelosi again.

!@#$%! 12.21.2020 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Insultingly low. There’s literally no place in the country where the average rent is $600 a month.
At least we on the left Can get back to publicly hating Nancy Pelosi again.

you know well mcconnell is the decider though. proposing something like $3k/mo would never fly with him and is therefore pointless.

Savage Clone 12.21.2020 11:30 AM

He is pretty much single-handedly strangling the entire thing, yes. Doesn’t mean MOR Democrats aren’t pretty spineless.But yes, the bowl of butterscotch pudding that some random facial features fell into is definitely the bigger problem.

!@#$%! 12.21.2020 01:17 PM

right. no amount of spine in itself could get him to budge. all they can do is work within the limits that he sets. which are indeed very narrow.

only chance to neutralize him is for democrats to win the senate in georgia. and still it's a thin margin.

Bytor Peltor 12.22.2020 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Insultingly low. There’s literally no place in the country where the average rent is $600 a month.
At least we on the left Can get back to publicly hating Nancy Pelosi again.


Speaking of Vomit Pelosi, remember in 2018 when she called $1,000+ bonuses being handed out by businesses after tax cuts CRUMBS and PATHETIC......but just called the $600 stimulus checks ”significant?"

What America gets for $600
 


$10 million for “gender programs” in Pakistan???

The Democrats are trying to sell America out, but I look for President Donald TRUMP to VETO the five thousand five hundred page relief package!

Robert Schunk 12.22.2020 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Speaking of Vomit Pelosi, remember in 2018 when she called $1,000+ bonuses being handed out by businesses after tax cuts CRUMBS and PATHETIC......but just called the $600 stimulus checks ”significant?"

What America gets for $600
 


$10 million for “gender programs” in Pakistan???

The Democrats are trying to sell America out, but I look for President Donald TRUMP to VETO the five thousand five hundred page relief package!



I very definitely see your point, yet believe that President Trump will not veto the measure, as bad as it is, as $600 is better than no crumbs from the table at all.

At least the bill contains no Federal bailout for spendthrift Democrat-run cities, which is what Pelosi was stalling for all along.

choc e-Claire 12.22.2020 06:23 AM

It's absurd that we're in a situation where Trump wants to give more money than basically anyone else, and nobody's letting him. The one time he'd be inarguably doing good...

Robert Schunk 12.22.2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
It's absurd that we're in a situation where Trump wants to give more money than basically anyone else, and nobody's letting him. The one time he'd be inarguably doing good...


Oh, you foolish little Ozzie girl!

We old-timey Mlwaukee Kraut Socialists were quite proud of the BALANCED BUDGETS under which we operated! That's what earned us the respect of Wisconsin's Progressive Republican LaFollette family throughout the 1920's (and beyond)!

READ A BOOK OR TWO, OKAY?

h8kurdt 12.22.2020 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Oh, you foolish little Ozzie girl!

We old-timey Mlwaukee Kraut Socialists were quite proud of the BALANCED BUDGETS under which we operated! That's what earned us the respect of Wisconsin's Progressive Republican LaFollette family throughout the 1920's (and beyond)!

READ A BOOK OR TWO, OKAY?


Ah yes, I remember you saying the exact the same when there was a $2 trillion bail out for businesses. Which basically got A LOT of rich cronies A LOT richer. Also remember you saying the same when Trump gave swathes of tax cuts that mainly benefited the already rich. Oh silly me. You never said such a thing.

Now republicans are starting to worry about the U.S debt? Convenient.

Patronising cunt aren't you? Trust me, you're nowhere near as smart as you think.

_tunic_ 12.22.2020 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Oh READ A BOOK OR TWO, OKAY?

Yeah, here's a suggestion
 
 

tesla69 12.22.2020 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Patronising cunt aren't you? Trust me, you're nowhere near as smart as you think.





Just curious what your take on Das Capital Volume I and II was. If you haven't read them then you are talking out of your ass.

Robert Schunk 12.22.2020 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Ah yes, I remember you saying the exact the same when there was a $2 trillion bail out for businesses. Which basically got A LOT of rich cronies A LOT richer. Also remember you saying the same when Trump gave swathes of tax cuts that mainly benefited the already rich. Oh silly me. You never said such a thing.

Now republicans are starting to worry about the U.S debt? Convenient.

Patronising cunt aren't you? Trust me, you're nowhere near as smart as you think.


Well, your memory doesn't appear to be all that clear, as I stated upon the "Is Trump really a serious contender for the Republican nomination?" thread, in post number 3424, date-and-time-stamped 12.01.2017, 09:58 PM:


"This tax plan is the opposite of what this country needs right now. What is needed is massive public investment in infrastructure (both to create jobs and to repair the effects of neglect over past decades) financed by aggressively progressive income taxation, particularly on unearned income (interest, dividends, etc.). This marks the second great betrayal of Trump's voters this year, the first being his illegal attack on Syria.

This bill eliminates the estate tax, which primarily affects only the wealthiest (an exemption for family owned and operated farms and small businesses could easily have been arranged), and contains a backhanded (though not unconstitutional) slap at Federalism through the elimination of the state and local income tax deduction, which could limit the ability of the several states to raise their own tax revenue. It exacerbates wealth and income inequality in this country, which is our biggest problem right now.

If you want to know where this is headed, look up Governor Sam Brownback's Kansas. Save for the fact that Kansas' massive tax cuts also involved spending cuts, which this bill doesn't, adding about 1.5 trillion to the national debt."

***

So, I admit that I didn't explicity call for a balanced budget upon that occasion, yet the ultimate objective is clear from the language of my post!

tesla69 12.22.2020 08:38 AM

Peter Hitchens: "the new face of humanity demanded by the elite is that of a perpetually frightened obedient and emotionless drone".

Robert Schunk 12.22.2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Patronising cunt aren't you? Trust me, you're nowhere near as smart as you think.


On that point you are quite correct! In fact, I would truly be honored should I gain the opportunity to stand before your village's electorate as candidate for the esteemed office of "Village Idiot".

Kindly note the following:

Idiot in Society

:D

!@#$%! 12.22.2020 08:59 AM

 

Diesel 12.22.2020 01:32 PM

Jajaja^

Just look at these utter pretentious sad sacks giving it the big un' on the internet. Read a foken book? I'm honestly fucking embarrassed to be a part of this forum sometimes

h8kurdt 12.22.2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel
Jajaja^

Just look at these utter pretentious sad sacks giving it the big un' on the internet. Read a foken book? I'm honestly fucking embarrassed to be a part of this forum sometimes


I feel you

The Soup Nazi 12.22.2020 09:12 PM

Stolen post from another site:

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Congress, unveiling the new stimulus:

 


tw2113 12.23.2020 01:07 AM

This year, we're all Clark Griswold in Christmas Vacation

The Soup Nazi 12.23.2020 01:30 AM

From Paste:

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Indie Theaters/Concert Venues to Receive $15 Billion in Stimulus Package

Music venues and independent movie theaters that have been hanging on for dear life during the second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic should finally receive some relief when Congress votes on the second pandemic stimulus act, as they are expected to Monday. The $900 billion overall deal sends aid to Americans in a bevy of ways (including stimulus checks, albeit smaller than they were the first time around), but it also includes a special carve-out for our beloved music venues and theaters, in the form of the Save Our Stages act. In total, this portion of the stimulus will provide around $15 billion to both independent music venues and independent movie theaters in the coming months—desperately needed funds, given that the live performance/exhibition business has been practically nonexistent in many market since March of 2020.

We don’t yet have specific figures for how all of those funds will be divvied up, but it’s important to note that these funds are specifically earmarked for independent theaters and venues, rather than large corporate chains. That seems to suggest that major movie theater chains such as AMC or Cinemark won’t be included in those receiving funds via Save Our Stages, with the focus instead being on thousands of independent concert venues and movie theaters. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi described the act in these terms, making a statement on the compromise bill that had been reached Sunday night:

“Democrats secured critical funding and policy changes to help small businesses, including minority-owned businesses, and nonprofits recover from the pandemic,” Pelosi wrote. “The agreement includes over $284 billion for first and second forgivable PPP loans, expanded PPP eligibility for nonprofits and local newspapers, TV and radio broadcasters, key modifications to PPP to serve the smallest businesses and struggling non-profits and better assist independent restaurants, and includes $15 billion in dedicated funding for live venues, independent movie theaters, and cultural institutions. The agreement also includes $20 billion for targeted EIDL Grants which are critical to many smaller businesses on Main Street.”

Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, a cosponsor of Save Our Stages, also said the following: “I am especially pleased that this bill will provide money for bars and restaurants, and $15 billion in SBA grants for theatre operators and small venue owners through the Save Our Stages Act. These venues are so important to my state and many states across the country —they are the lifeblood of our communities. They were first to close, and will be the last to open. The bill gives them a fighting chance.”

Ultimately, even this aid package amounts to exactly that—just a fighting chance for these venues, given their almost total inability to generate revenue during the pandemic. Some independent theaters have managed to set up “digital screening rooms” to digitally sell movie rentals during recent months, but that kind of revenue only replaces a tiny fraction of what they would be making otherwise. Music venues have arguably been hit even worse, something that Paste was trying to highlight in our recent, 7-day series of live sessions in Nashville, Paste Studio on the Road. You can watch all of those sessions here, or via YouTube. The National Independent Venue Association estimates that 90% of the country’s independent venues were only weeks away from closing without aid, so we should likely be thankful this holiday season that Congress has at least managed to give our beloved venues some hope.

We’ll bring you more information on the Save Our Stages act and its impact on the venue/theater community as more details emerge.

ETA: Under The Radar also covered the story, but with an awesome pic. ;)

 


Independent Music Venues and Movie Theaters to Get $15 Billion in Federal Stimulus Aid

The Soup Nazi 12.23.2020 01:50 AM

Excellent column by Max Boot above, even if we're familiar with the facts.

The Soup Nazi 12.23.2020 07:58 PM

From Demand Progress:

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$2000 stimulus checks

We have a golden opportunity to deliver a $2000 stimulus check to American households -- more than $600, which is woefully insufficient -- but we need your help right now to make it happen.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi said she wants the House to pass $2000 checks.(1) Even Donald Trump wants it too. But for $2000 checks to become reality, we need to flood Congressional offices with messages right now, before a possible vote on Christmas Eve. Can you help?

Sign and send the petition: Tell Congress to vote for $2000 economic stimulus checks!

With rent due next week and the coronavirus spiraling out of control across America, it's clear that a $600 check is not going to be anywhere near enough to meet families' desperate need in this moment of crisis.

Trump's threat to veto a stimulus bill that doesn't include a $2000 check has created a new opportunity to make it happen in Congress. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Rashida Tlaib already have an amendment ready to go. Pelosi needs to bring back the House to make sure it can happen.

Mitch McConnell remains strongly opposed to $2000 stimulus checks. But Trump's support for that larger check means Senate Republicans may be willing to overcome McConnell's objections -- especially if they and their Democratic colleagues hear a groundswell of public support for it right now.

Demand Progress delivers your petition signatures electronically to Congress, so when you sign the petition urging them to pass $2000 stimulus checks, they'll receive that message today. And there's not a moment to lose before a possible vote on Thursday. Will you speak up in this crucial moment?

Tell Congress: Vote for $2000 stimulus checks!

Thanks for taking action,

Robert Cruickshank and the team at Demand Progress


Sources:
1. Washington Post, "Democrats pressure McConnell to give in to Trump’s demand for $2,000 stimulus checks: ‘Let’s do it!’," December 23, 2020.

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tw2113 12.24.2020 12:20 AM

Yes, I'd like more of my taxes back so that I can apply it as I see fit to my own other bills and debt. I'm thinking further attacking my car loan. Less than $3.5k left,

The Soup Nazi 12.24.2020 03:44 PM

 

The Soup Nazi 12.24.2020 04:01 PM

House GOP kills bid for $2,000 stimulus checks

Shocking, huh. More: https://news.google.com/stories/CAAq...S&ceid=US%3Aen

The Soup Nazi 12.24.2020 04:53 PM



Opinion piece in The Washington Post published before this ^ (which doesn't make it outdated in the least, since it stated what was going to fucking happen anyway):

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Donald Trump doesn’t really care about you

Opinion by Helaine Olen
Columnist
Dec. 23, 2020 at 9:41 p.m. GMT-3

On Tuesday, President Trump tossed what headline writers like to call a “last-minute wrench” into plans to help millions of Americans navigate the financial pain of the coronavirus pandemic. The aid bill Congress passed this week, he declared via a four-minute video released on Twitter, was not enough. Americans, he said, should receive more than a one-time $600 stimulus check. They deserved $2,000.

Let’s be clear: On that important point, Trump is right. The bill is inadequate: Americans need more money and lots of it. The $600 bonus payment the bill offers is half of what they received in the aid package in March. While welcome, the amount is so insignificant that it doesn’t even cover one month’s rent on the average one-bedroom apartment. The unemployment boost is stingier, too — offering up an extra $300 a week instead of the $600 Americans received in the spring. But the bill is also necessary. Without the president’s signature, millions of Americans are at risk of everything from losing unemployment benefits to eviction — yes, the proposed stimulus package extends federal eviction moratoriums.

If Trump doesn’t sign off on the existing bill, the new Congress will need to start from scratch after the first of the year. And despite immediate appearances, implicitly threatening to veto the only federal help Americans are likely to receive for some time to come is not exactly helpful to citizens in need. But the fact is, he was never actually trying to help you or me. And we should expect nothing less from Trump, whose inability to think about anyone other than Trump is well-established.

The Democratic-controlled House, lest you forget, passed a more than $3 trillion successor to the Cares Act in May. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) made sure it went nowhere, and did the same for all other efforts to offer increasingly desperate Americans a financial lifeline. As I am forever pointing out, McConnell was so contemptuous of Democratic attempts to get money out that, during his reelection campaign, he laughed on a debate stage when confronted about it by Democratic challenger Amy McGrath.

Trump had almost nothing to say about all this. He maintained a low profile in the months-long stimulus negotiations between Democrats and Republicans in Congress, allowing Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin to take the lead for the White House. Yes, Trump tweeted out this fall he would like to see Americans receive $1,200 checks, and that he would sign a bill offering that up, but he didn’t bother to follow up in a meaningful way.

Shortly after Trump spoke up on Tuesday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) announced plans to bring a bill including $2,000 checks to the floor of the House, allowing it to advance via a unanimous consent vote. “Let’s do it!,” she said. Few think the proposal will go far — the odds of every Republican in the House supporting it are low.

It’s quite possible — nay, make that all but certain — that Trump’s last minute sabotage is a way of punishing McConnell, who is now openly accepting the fact that President-elect Joe Biden will be sworn in in less than a month. McConnell only signed off on a stimulus package when it became clear that the lack of another financial aid package for Americans would make it more difficult for Republicans to win the two Senate runoff races set for Jan. 5 in Georgia, costing the party control of the upper chamber.

It’s a rich boy’s privilege to see the poor and downtrodden as pawns in a political game rather than as individual people in desperate need. The idea that Donald Trump actually cares about the financial realities Americans face is ludicrous. Now that he is on his way out, it’s increasingly obvious he’s only loyal to himself.

Jesus Christ Monkeyballs, let's win Georgia, get Biden in charge already, and go back to talking about the goddamn virus itself and its fanfuckingtastic mutations...

_tunic_ 12.30.2020 10:06 AM

Back in 2011, I went to Paris for a holiday and I stayed in this hotel


 



I only remembered it again while I was browsing through old pictures. It was a fine hotel, with free car parking which is a rarity in Paris especially in the city centre

LifeDistortion 12.30.2020 02:44 PM

Covid took Mary Ann of Gilligan's Island. Damn.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/daw...nn-1234876755/

The Soup Nazi 12.30.2020 09:30 PM

 

Bytor Peltor 12.30.2020 09:57 PM

 

The Soup Nazi 12.30.2020 10:24 PM

^ Then why did you vote Republican? And didn't you read this?


SO YOU FUCK OFF AND GOODBYE TOO, LOSER.

The Soup Nazi 01.04.2021 01:20 AM

Comment by Dimeadozen member TenYearsGone on torrent Ramones 1979-12-06 Vogue Theatre Indianapolis, Indiana:

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"I Don't Wanna Walk Around With You" is my new Nashville, Tennessee, USA COVID-19 theme song.

_slavo_ 01.04.2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by _slavo_
How's the situation in the country where you live?
Although right now I am in a country with 10th highest number of confirmed cases (more than 500) in the world, it's surprisingly calm. Noone is wearing masks, the schools are not closed, not even the work would send us home for homeoffice.


In my home land Slovakia though (only 5 confirmed cases), they closed schools and kindergartens, many companies work homeoffice, etc. Interesting.





how cute.

now we have 3000-4000 new cases every day in Slovakia and people are dying in hundreds every day.

!@#$%! 01.04.2021 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by _slavo_
how cute.

now we have 3000-4000 new cases every day in Slovakia and people are dying in hundreds every day.

How is swisslandia doing by comparison?

h8kurdt 01.04.2021 12:16 PM

Over here in England, that absolute dense weapon that goes by the name of Johnson is to be announcing another lockdown tonight. That includes schools shutting. Last Wednesday the was berating Labour leader Starmer for even suggesting such a thing. Sunday he was saying going back to schools is absolutely safe and they will be kept open. Now he's doing ANOTHER U-turn. How this moron is still ahead in the polls is beyond me.

g. 01.04.2021 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Over here in England, that absolute dense weapon that goes by the name of Johnson is to be announcing another lockdown tonight. That includes schools shutting. Last Wednesday the was berating Labour leader Starmer for even suggesting such a thing. Sunday he was saying going back to schools is absolutely safe and they will be kept open. Now he's doing ANOTHER U-turn. How this moron is still ahead in the polls is beyond me.


Man is a fucking walking contradiction. Joke.

This last minute change of heart is getting boring and stinks of incompetence and a lack of understanding. Twat.

_slavo_ 01.05.2021 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
How is swisslandia doing by comparison?





No idea, wasn't there since October. Working remotely (thank God for technologies).


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