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!@#$%! 07.16.2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Peterpuff


I think this guy gets it...


you keep using that catchphrase to deflect the responsibility of your own thoughts and ascribe them unto others, but ask gravityslips what he thinks about having “free” healthcare for all and “free” college tuition before you label him your ideological comrade.

(i think he's to the left of me, as i recall)

what people label as "centrist" tends to vary wildly. i was going to ask him what he meant by centrist but forgot.

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Originally Posted by Peterpuff
I know I am going to get horribly attacked for this opinion as well, but I think modern-day victimhood acceptance falls perfectly into your statement as well as your intended point. Both ideals being discussed do.


so you're saying you're about to become a victim (horribly attacked!)... and...

what was the rest? honest question.

h8kurdt 07.16.2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
GravitySlip's right; these Tweets reveal nothing about Trump we didn't already know, and I've always found him morally suspect, but I can't pretend that I don't still find his policies more credible than the Dems' right now. That's in no way an endorsement of Trump, rather a reflection of just how jaw-droppingly awful I consider the Democrats.


Morally suspect is putting it nicely there. Which if his policies do you find more credible than any of the running Dems? His trickle down economics? Something which has been shown time and time again to not work. His obsession with building a wall and using funds that could be much better spent elsewhere? His foreign policy which involves cosying up to blatant dictators and then taking to Twitter to shit on close allies?

I'm actually baffled as to what yes done that makes you think he's the lesser of two evils.

You might point out about how well the economy is doing. Which ok, it's doing well. However, you can't ignore that it's also a global trend of low unemployment and something that's special to the U.S.

demonrail666 07.16.2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Which if his policies do you find more credible than any of the running Dems?


I'ld trust him with the economy and national security more than I would the Dems right now.

tw2113 07.16.2019 01:03 PM

/me skims the thread and resumes praying for a huge asteroid to finally actually show up

Rob Instigator 07.16.2019 01:19 PM

indeed.

The people who are controlling Preznit Trump are making billions off of what should be our collective tax revenue, used for collective good, and instead is going to super rich multi-national corporations that do not give a flying fuck about USA, or "America."

The immigration red herring is working extremely well. racists love to fear brown people, especially when they speak 2, 3 or 4 languages as opposed to ignorant gringos and their "english."

100 years ago the exact same thing was happening but it was the Irish and Italians and Greeks and Slavs that were immigrating to US and not considered white by the anglo cracker overlords...(Trump's grandpa was one of these immigrants stealing american jobs.)

!@#$%! 07.16.2019 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I'ld trust him with the economy and national security more than I would the Dems right now.

how???

Rob Instigator 07.16.2019 01:51 PM

Where are the Pro-Lifers and their indignation? Women in ICE custody ignored when having miscarriages. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...e-medical-care

I forgot, it is actually "pro-white-life"

Bytor Peltor 07.16.2019 02:15 PM

Is Joe Biden The Mitt Romney Of 2020?


So Joe calls Mitt a racist back in the day......and a few weeks ago Kamala Harris calls Joe Biden a racist......is racist the Democrats goto move?

Speaking of calling someone racist:

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
And those women who were born in America, I challenge you to find anything positive, supportive or patriotic they’ve had to say about America since taking office. I doubt you will!!!


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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Democrats are saying NO ONE, not even the President, is above the law. So I’m wondering......how come illegals are???

Im waiting???


And I’m still waiting???



On Tuesday morning, Trump tweeted that the four congresswomen "have been spewing some of the most vile, hateful, and disgusting things ever said by a politician in the House or Senate" and asked why the House wasn't "voting to rebuke the filthy and hate laced things they have said?"

Bytor Peltor 07.16.2019 02:32 PM

Why would Obama via Executive Order have the Detention Centers with cages built, but not provide funding for the detainees care?

Obama deported far more Illegal Immigrants than President Trump has, but I doubt I’ll find any post here at SYG complaining about that.

And where is Oprah and her million dollar celebrity friends? You know, the ones she would gather together when they were beating the campaign trail to get Hillary elected? Why isn’t John Travolta flying them with a ton of supplies down to the detention centers......why?

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Where are the Pro-Lifers and their indignation? Women in ICE custody ignored when having miscarriages. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...e-medical-care

I forgot, it is actually "pro-white-life"


Rob Instigator 07.16.2019 02:43 PM

The discussion is not about deporting undocumented immigrants, but of shoving people seeking asylum into concentration camps. Two wholly separate groups of people.

Oprah bought in years ago. she stands to lose just as much as Trump's "friends". Charles Barkley said he was a Democrat until he became a millionaire, at which point he became a Republican because as he put it, all that mattered to him was the money, and keeping it from the government in taxes.

Travolta is a Scientologist and controlled by Muscavinge, who is right in there with trump's racist ass fucks. Scientologist are racist as fuck too.

The detention Centers were actually created under Clinton, not Obama, and Clinton goes to the same pedophile procurers as Trump....

demonrail666 07.16.2019 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
how???


The Dems seem to be devolving into an activist movement and those are fine but I'm not sure I'd want to trust one with a nation's security or economy.

ilduclo 07.16.2019 03:24 PM

puffy put on ignore.

Rob Instigator 07.16.2019 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
The Dems seem to be devolving into an activist movement and those are fine but I'm not sure I'd want to trust one with a nation's security or economy.


Political parties are NOT the ones that control our economy or our security. That is handled by other organizations. The leading party can only guide policy in these matters. Currently, our country is being sold out from under our noses. You like that shit?

Bytor Peltor 07.16.2019 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
You like that shit?


If political parties are NOT in control, wouldn’t the “shit” be the same if Hillary was President?

Bytor Peltor 07.16.2019 04:34 PM

Obama-era Officials Admit NYT's Harriet Tubman $20 Hit Piece Was Fake News

Peterpuff 07.16.2019 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
The Dems seem to be devolving into an activist movement and those are fine but I'm not sure I'd want to trust one with a nation's security or economy.

I think this guy gets it... /wink

(I agree with what this person has said, in this one specifically quoted segment, and stand by it. I think it is well put. This does not mean I am looking to align myself whole-heartedly with this person and their belief system completely, but with this specific statement.)

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
what people label as "centrist" tends to vary wildly. i was going to ask him what he meant by centrist but forgot.

I think this guy gets it, too!

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
so you're saying you're about to become a victim (horribly attacked!)... and...

what was the rest? honest question.

Absolute fair-play, my friend. That was a pretty poorly thought out preface leading into that comment I made, eh? Touché :)

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
puffy put on ignore.

That's directed at me? If so...lame...

I genuinely respect you as a poster here and have often enjoyed your insights to things. But if you truly saw that as some sort of attack on you, then so be it. It was not personal by any means.

Peterpuff 07.16.2019 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hairs missing
I think this guy gets it.


I love you.

And I agree. He gets it more than any of us...

!@#$%! 07.16.2019 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
The Dems seem to be devolving into an activist movement and those are fine but I'm not sure I'd want to trust one with a nation's security or economy.

got this from bloomberg's email newsletter a moment ago:

Donald Trump is targeting China again. The president reiterated his threat of more tariffs on Chinese goods, after promising to hold off on additional duties in a trade-war truce he reached with Xi Jinping last month. He asserted that China is supposed to buy more farm products; a pledge Beijing hasn't confirmed or fulfilled. Shares fell from a record high.

==

i don't know how you can trust this senile rollercoaster who rules by caprice

yes yes, i would like a moderate. but trump is an extremist in his own right.

so, again, mote vs beam.

!@#$%! 07.16.2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Peterpuff
I think this guy gets it... /wink

(I agree with what this person has said, in this one specifically quoted segment, and stand by it. I think it is well put. This does not mean I am looking to align myself whole-heartedly with this person and their belief system completely, but with this specific statement.)


I think this guy gets it, too!


Absolute fair-play, my friend. That was a pretty poorly thought out preface leading into that comment I made, eh? Touché :)




so again not sure if you've kept up but ive argued everywhere here for centrist policies and free markets and the risk of democrats losing by going too far left. i support pragmatist pelosi over the progressive insurgents, etc.

HOWEVER... apples to apples!

trump is a fucking lunatic and not a centrist. and he's peddling racial hate in order to cling to power.

telling brown americans to go back where they came from? jeezus fucking christ. that gives free license to every white supremacist asshole out there to do the same, and to feel vindicated in their fucked up beliefs.

here's republican george conway, husband of kellyanne, explaining it for you
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...5d5_story.html


this type of presidential behavior to me is more dangerous than a push for government takeover of the health system that could never happen, because congress and the courts would put a stop to it. (i'm for the public option actually-- do not want gubmint monopoly)

so, even though i don't agree with someone like bernie, i'd rather have his type of activism over the fascist bastard who has idiots like bytor goose-stepping in sync with him.

we already have an activist in the white house. and he's agitating for all the wrong ideas.

ilduclo 07.17.2019 09:35 AM

The Smithsonian is trying to acquire migrant children’s detention facility drawings for the National Museum of American History.

https://www.insider.com/smithsonian-...rawings-2019-7

“...show what’s on the end of the long newspaper spoon...”

 


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