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Kendrick Lamar is the James Joyce of Hip Hop

Are you trolling or do you really feel that way?

Because NR and I had a conversation a while ago about To Pimp A Butterfly where we said the exact same thing. That and that TPAB was the Ulysses of hip-hop albums.

:confused: Serious question:

Does anybody listen to "indie" hip-hop at all anymore?

There was a time when I felt like the underground was the only place where substance could be found in the genre. The alt-rap dudes. The Dels and Clouddeads and the Soles and Blackaliciouses of the world. Anticon. Atmosphere. Blu-blah blah.

I haven't listened to anything like that in ages and ages. I still throw on Blazing Arrow every once in a while, but it's been a bit since I've had any desire to listen to that uber serious Selling Live Water crunchy roll crap.

With artists like Kendrick in the mainstream, who the hell needs a bunch of guilty white guys rapping about their guilt over what sounds like 764-hero music?

:confused:

Severian.. in your bitching and moaning about Taylor Swift you conveniently forgot to mention that Kendrick won FIVE other Grammys... so..............

although if memory serves, we were comparing it rather unfavorably to Ulysses haha. Like "yeah I recognize it's a masterpiece... but it feels like work rather than fun."

is Run The Jewels considered indie? I'm not even sure.

"when they say I don't respect the culture
truth is I only rap cuz I'm not smart enough to write a book"

for me, I was all about indie rap (and Ghostface) until I got bit by the Southern hip hop bug via Dedication 2/Carter II.

oh shit you got me on this Sole track man

"Always wanted to be a rapper
But when I finally made it there, no one wanted me
Since no one wants me here
In the immortal words of Ice-T:
"You should have killed me last year."

anyway, I was a huge indie hip hop obsesso back in college man. Anticon, Def Jux, Mush, Rhymesayers, all that.

Jay Electronica is going at Kendrick now and threatening to destroy TDE..

Ugh. Must say I'm very disappointed in this guy who once had the potential to be the greatest rapper of our times.

What's TDE?

Yeah, that's true. And hey, it's fine! Yay. Good. But that's doesn't change the fact he should have won the only Grammy anyone ever talks about after the fact.

I'm not bitching about Taylor Swift, btw. I'm bitching about the people who pick the winners. Taylor didn't do anything wrong.

Top Dawg Entertainment: Kendrick Lamar, Jay Rock, Schoolboy Q, Ab-Soul, Isaiah Rashad..

Me too man. Me too. Why? Themselves. Sole. Even J5. I was all about the backpacks.

And Can Ox (still love), and Comoany Flow, MF DOOM (who I still fucking LOVE, but where has he been? Is he ever coming back?!)

I still played Jay and Wu and Big all the time, but I really went through a phase there where I thought those three were the only popular rap artists worth listening to.

Ghost posted this on his FB page a few days ago:



Must mean DOOMSTARKS is coming soon, right? RIGHT??

Why is Jay electronica threatening to destroy a record label?

More importantly, why does a rapper who doesn't currently have a record label think that he *can* take down a record label?

I read about JE shit talking Kendrick. Didn't read about why, because it's another one of those candle wick trying to talk shit about the sun situations. But ... Why? I thought they were bros?

I like Jay Rock :)

I'm lost on Doomstarks. I have a Doomstarks mixtape that I've never really laid much attention to, and I have the Victory Lap EP. Why do I keep hearing that it "might happen" when my iTunes library says it already has happened? Is it just that a formal Lp was in the works and never came to fruition?

Love GFK and Doom, but this and NehruvianDoom both just kinda make me go "meh." I'd love for doom to do an actual follow up lp with Madlib. Or I dunno... Make another doom album. Collabs are great, but Doom used to be my favorite emcee and one of my favorite producers. I just want him to make a Born like This follow up.

LOL. Apparently he thinks Kendrick is overrated and doesn't mess with him musically. He said that no one knows what Kendrick is talking about on his songs and that he's begging for awards, both of those claims are false and misinformed but ah well.

Jay E is still signed to Roc Nation by the way, he's just forgotten because he doesn't release music besides the annual really damn good song. Hov loves him that much.

I think he's jealous of Kendrick because he could've been in his position but he messed up, and now he's about as significant as Canibus or Papoose. It's a damn shame. Hopefully he still releases his album this year though. I don't like him as a person anymore but I can't deny his talent.