Her objective was to criticize his comedy and her crime was being rude. His objective was to cover his own ass and his crime was yelling at her and hitting her. His objectives were more selfish and his crime was more severe. Here's a gif of him hitting her: http://gifninja.com/animated-gifs/152005/joe

lydia lunch is fucking repulsive and i hope she goes away forever.

hahahahah good.

Wow, would you say Lydia isn't the self righteous egotistical sort? If not, you should read more into her. I'd say he and Lydia probably have a lot in common, depending on what angle ya choose to view the scenario from.

I mean, are Sonic Youth fans supposed to think a certain way? As a fan of a certain band, is it weird someone likes this comedian? I wonder why ya feel this way. let me guess, I'm supposed to like Dinosaur Jr and Kathleen Hannah too, right? Strange.

Yr not supposed to, but I won't deny that I was sort of expecting it... I started this thread thinking that common interests would lead me to find out more about Lydia's music. I wasn't expecting a debate like this... I'm just getting used to the culture 'round these parts. I'll probably be less controversial in future.

I dislike Kathleen. I respect Dinosaur, but get bored of them fairly quickly when listening to them.

And honestly, I don't think you're controversial at all. You seem cool. Just realize some people have personalities (like Lydia) which are just so "obvious", that tons of differing opinions on her will br brought up whenever she's mentioned. No different that Courtney Love or former president Bush.

update: sway gets bored listening to dinosaur jr yet still maintains the most fucking boring taste of anyone on this shit hole of a message board

If by this you mean I don't enjoy Limp B + Avril, you are correct.

yeah because clearly he meant that.

Limp B. stands for Limp Based God.

it's 2012 and you're joking about limp bizkit would you fucking grow up already

i'm bored, let's internetfight

Hipster Gays vs Hipster Rednecks - its the fight Jesus always wanted to see.

hipster jesus.

If by grow up you mean have my own place, car, no room mates, a job...accomplished. Thanks.

None what so ever. I mean, of course I have a small apartment, a 2001 truck, and an OK job...but I've never went out of my way to put myself into a situation I couldn't really afford, either. Live within my means. I think it's pretty "grown up".

But ya know, I like the Stooges and James Chance so I need to grow up. haha

I feel pretty growed up. But I live with five other people, have a car that's older than I am, and have a job that only exists every week or so. But having those five people be my bandmates, having that car be hand-painted as an American flag, and having that job be cutting hair in my home-salon, it feels pretty worth it.

shut the fuck up

go send halfeatencake more pms about how you're going to kill yourself or some dumb shit like that

Yeah, I've done that whole several-room mate thing before. I might even do it again one day...

It's nice when one feels it's appropriate to stick their nose in business it doesn't belong in. Murmer is cool.

He must have struck a serious nerve w/ you for ya to throw out that sort of insult. Good for him.

lol sway can we not

That works, too ;)

i bet my underwear drawer is worth more than your truck you fucking scum

the stooges are a really boring band

Music doesn't get much better.

Well, you are gay so it wouldn't surprise me.

OK. Care to elaborate? I mean, that's like saying "Dark Knight was a shit movie" but lacking the mental capacity to express why.

so you just assume that gays would hold their underwear in higher regard than something like a truck?

i'm smelling some really bad homophobia here, you redneck shit.

And are you talking about the drawer itself, or you're actual underwear? You should seriously read more books, because you are a total moron when it comes to explaining anything via written word.

;)

Keep sniffin'.

The Stooges are just a bunch of boring bluesy guitar riffs and you can try and be all, "oh but iggy is such a powerful frontman" or "oh but ron played his guitar so hard man" but no, they are nothing more than another dull rock band who play blues inspired riffs.

Well, it is a bit difficult to compare Iggy to many that came before him, all the while there has been no shortage om imitators since him.

And sure...it was bluesy rock? So what? The approach was something beyond exceptionally unique for it's time. Most fail to consider the first Stooges record came out the same week as the Woodstock festival. Comparing what was going on there, to what was going on with a couple bands bangin' around Detroit...I think a lot is to be said. Tons of differences that go beyond the minimal similarities you've mentioned. Still, I applaud you for trying.

lol

<3 ya, homie.

yeah iggy was an interesting personality and showman, but musically?

what unique approach? how is what they did unique?

like, i'm seriously struggling to see what anyone else sees in this band and i've tried for years.

The emotions expressed...boredom, anxiety, sexual frustration, sex as fun as opposed to sex as love, drugs as fun as opposed to drugs as a tool of mind expansion or some other hippie rubbish, were all unique for the time in which they, The Stooges, were expressing them. Sure, some notes were pulled from the Doors...but they tore down whatever doors the Doors themselves wouldn't even venture into. They barely knew how to play. Comparing Ron's more poetic, uber loose, adolescent anger driven blues slop...way different than say, Santana or Hendrix. Sure the scales were the same...but what gives? It's 2012...not much unique about weird time sigs and out of tune guitars, either. Anyone that feels there is is WAY out of tune w/ reality.

AND, if ya ever listen to the full/extended version of Ann...the last several minutes is very comparable to some stuff that wouldn't happen until 10 or so years afterward. Shit is total stoner sludge angst. The bass line slowed down a bit more wouldn't be too far off from what Sunn are doing. And Ron's playing, here, is some of the freest most insane shit I've ever heard. Blues or not...shit is free. Totally improvised, totally non-pretentious. They wanted success, but always knew deep down they weren't getting it...this, allowing themselves to venture into concepts they knew wouldn't be popular.

But beyond any of this, even what I've mentioned above (mostly...) boils down to my personal feelings on the subject. I don't give a fuck what one listens to, and feel caring too much about the musical taste of others is rather adolescent. Especially when one attempts using these sort of things as an insult. Really, who gives a fuck? Seriously? You care that damned much? I doubt you do. In the same way, the last thing on my mind is whatever, likely "shit" in my opinion, music you listen to in your free time. It's just entertainment.

I just personally feel the Stooges are a very important band. They have been for me. Who cares?

I <3 the shit out of you guys!

Iggy's main source of originality was his coolness and personality... Beyond that his is really just blues riffs. But so what? His songs are catchy and his personality is intriguing enough to keep me interested. Was the Velvet Underground just rock riffs? Was Sonic Youth just noise?

i got a 34 on the ACT and I read Crime and Punishment in the 8th grade, you backwoods twat.

like say what you will about me and my habits but i am literally a genius

Everyone here has good reasons for their tastes... Even when I've disagreed most strongly on this thread people have still had totally valid reasons to support their position. Lets attack the shit out of people's ideas. Violently and without mercy. But lets not hate on each other personally because we're all beautiful starchildren with brains crafted by the mighty cock of Zeus.

are you a faggot or something?