Did you hear that, Porky? Someone thinks the music I like is great.

He's being polite.

Atari is you. You are atari, not me.

it was a joke on this:

"p.s. Avril Lavigne started as indie because she sang in those country fairs?"

Why don't you want to be Atari ? Have you got a problem with him ?
I thought he was your friend...:rolleyes:

bad joke, my mistake.

I was replying to "indie" as in independently released and how people use the fact as a distinguisher from major released bands. It's lame.

Why don't you sod off?

Keep cool, I was kidding. I didn't know you were allergic to this name.

I don't know. Lately I've been asking myself the same thing. And it's not just the vocals either, it's the trite lyrics that a lot of these people come up with. I don't mind both of these things being attempted, but if it's not working out, let it go.

I have a problem with the vocals on a lot of "post-metal" music - Isis, for instance. They seem to have a thing for taking beautiful music and plastering "I'm a demon" shit all over it. Pisses me off no end.

i love isis' vocals, i'm probably the only one who does.

No, you're not.

well shit Toliet, if a million bands have shit singers, which ones don't?

and are you including Carrie in that mention of Sleater-Kinney or just Corin?

i feel the same way. i'm tired of sunshine indie pop bullshit with singers who can't sing worth a lick and just write different lyrics for the same way of holding hands and shit. it's almost as if bad singing and cutesy lyrics are a requisite for indie bands.

while we're on the subject of shitty singers, let's talk about thom yorke.

nic fit got it right, i'm talking about bands that are otherwise "good" within the of what is vaguely recognised as the indie rock scene. what i want to know is why these bands think it's ok to have a dreadful singer when they wouldn't stand for equally inept intrument playing?

corin tucker can't hold a note to save her life, her voice wavers all over the place.
the guy from galaxie 500 sounds like a spastic playing a violin
and the guy from unwound sounds like a bored & whining child

imagine if one of the band members ability with an instrument was markedly worse than the others and yet they were given a prominent role within the band, it would sound preposterous.



stop being hoity-toity and pedantic, the "debate" about what "indie" means is as old as the hills and excruciatingly boring.

I can't stand his voice !!!:mad:
It became unbearable since Ok Computer, like a crushed cat.

HA!

Anyone who's heard bootlegs of the Stone Roses playing live will have noted Mr Ian Brown's ability to drift off into a key that is unrelated to the song that he's trying to sing.

that happens often enough that I dont express my musical opinions to women, you just never know what people listen to anymore.