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Phlegmscope 10.12.2010 09:32 AM

No, but I believe in mental illness.

hevusa 10.12.2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Phlegmscope
No, but I believe in mental illness.


for the win!

gast30 10.12.2010 10:52 AM



 


the FUTURIST
DARWIN DRIVE 11
GHOSTCITY

EVOLghost 10.12.2010 11:38 AM

ya know....last night I had a dream where I was in a haunted building...

!@#$%! 10.12.2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Why is it always a spooky or creepy spirit......why can't it ever be a good / fun spirit who brings you prizes & gifts : )


what, of course there's santa claus & the tooth fairy

Genteel Death 10.12.2010 12:37 PM

No. I don't think it would make any difference if I did.

Satan 10.12.2010 02:21 PM

yes, i've seen plenty of ghosts

GeneticKiss 10.12.2010 04:44 PM

All I know is that the few corpses I've seen in real life (both of them grandparents, as I've been lucky enough not to lose any close friends) don't look like the people I knew. They looked like pictures or statues of them.

The Laws of Conservation of Matter and Conservation of Energy tell us that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, so doesn't it stand to reason that life force should be no different?

hevusa 10.12.2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
The Laws of Conservation of Matter and Conservation of Energy tell us that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, so doesn't it stand to reason that life force should be no different?



That is only true in an "isolated system". Unfortunately humans do not exist within an isolated system and thus our energy does indeed die completely.

Pax Americana 10.12.2010 06:19 PM

No. Sorry, this just seems silly to me.

Genteel Death 10.12.2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa
That is only true in an "isolated system". Unfortunately humans do not exist within an isolated system and thus our energy does indeed die completely.

Exactly. And dead bodies ''exist'' within a context of memory and imagination, which can pretty much resurrect them whenever anxiety takes hold of a living being.

!@#$%! 10.12.2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
The Laws of Conservation of Matter and Conservation of Energy tell us that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, so doesn't it stand to reason that life force should be no different?


1) is "life force" a physical "thing", subject to dimensional analysis, and therefore subject to the laws of conservation of matter and energy? force = mass x acceleration. what mass? what acceleration?

2) the matter and electrochemical energy of a dead body cannot be created or destroyed, but can be transformed.

3) how is it transformed? the 2nd law of thermodynamics tells us basically that everything turns to shit. or "no process is possible whose sole result is the absorption of heat from a reservoir and the conversion of this heat into work." meaning energy from your precious cells dissipates as heat as you rot. sorry brother, but the sooner you eat this truth the faster you'll digest it and profit from it. life is short, and corpses fart a lot. then again if you are eaten (not in a sex way), your calories prolong the life of another future-rotting entity. & so on & so forth.

GeneticKiss 10.12.2010 10:28 PM

You are all free believe what you want of course, but to me there's far more evidence for the existance of ghosts/souls than against it. You're not going to convince me otherwise, and nothing I can say will probably convince those of you who are skeptical to believe in them, so in this case we'll simply have to agree to disagree.

I find the idea of no afterlife far more depowering than the idea that there is an afterlife, but it's only good if you follow a certain doctrine.

hevusa 10.12.2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
You are all free believe what you want of course, but to me there's far more evidence for the existance of ghosts/souls than against it.


0% evidence unless you are the first person in history to present some. Please do! If not....

IT IS JUST YR HOT AIR!

hevusa 10.12.2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Exactly. And dead bodies ''exist'' within a context of memory and imagination, which can pretty much resurrect them whenever anxiety takes hold of a living being.


Which are not isolated systems. Energy death!

ann ashtray 10.12.2010 11:30 PM

How come often times when people see ghosts, they are fully clothed? Does our clothing have an afterlife as well?

I really hope I die in my favorite pair of Levi's.

jon boy 10.12.2010 11:38 PM

interestingly brooker wrote about this on the weekend.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...er-screen-burn

I hate to break this to you like this, bluntly, in the middle of a TV review column – ghosts don't exist. Nonetheless, many people insist on believing in them anyway. These citizens are beyond help. Ask if they believe in Scooby-Doo too, and they'll accuse you of sarcasm, even though he was at least based on something with some grounding in honest reality – ie the animal known as a "dog" – unlike the spooks and ghoulies that chased him and Shaggy around, which inevitably turned out to be local gas station attendants wearing costumes to scare people away from the gold they'd discovered.Anyhow. Since ghosts don't exist, you're guaranteed to never see a ghost in an episode of Ghosthunting, no matter how hard they hunt for one. They might as well film themselves searching for Smurf eggs or trying to jump over the moon. But they don't. They just stand around breathing. For two hours.

GeneticKiss 10.13.2010 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hevusa
0% evidence unless you are the first person in history to present some. Please do! If not....

IT IS JUST YR HOT AIR!


Do you have any proof of the nonexistance of ghosts?

ann ashtray 10.13.2010 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
Do you have any proof of the nonexistance of ghosts?



Good point....

But, to say that there is more evidence that ghost exist than do not is far fetched. Still, I credit you for saying "to me"....

Most people, the vast majority of people, never experience seeing a ghost in their lifetime. Thus far, absolutely no one who has claimed to have seen one has offered anything in the way of indisputable proof. Some blurry photos and spine tingling tales mean absolutely nothing. Weird sounds recorded on a hand held tape machine mean nothing either.

They are like UFOs or God or anything else.

hevusa 10.13.2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
Do you have any proof of the nonexistance of ghosts?



Do you have any proof of the nonexistence of the invisible, pink, omnipresent elephant living in my refrigerator?

If not... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philoso...urden_of_proof


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