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ilduclo 02.19.2019 04:39 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl7FB-1LDjA

!@#$%! 02.19.2019 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Also isnt unemployment down because it's harder to apply for and people are forced ot be working multiple jobs?

I have so many questions...


low unemployment doesn't meant that "people are forced to work multiple jobs". that's what lady o'casio said right? lmao. that's so wrong. she's clueless bud, sorry. don't be mislead by her good looks.

unemployment isn't a measure of job vacancies.

unemployment is a measure of people not working.

there are very few people not-working right now.

this is a good thing not a bad one.

yes the recovery started with obama no doubt. what is suprising is that it shows no signs of letting down. everyone was expecting a recession already because it's the natural business cycle. and it may come, and i may come hard, but it's not here. the tax cuts actually boosted the recovery, at least for the short term. larry summers said 1-2 years max. we'll see how it pans out.

there's supposed to be a "natural rate" of unemployment. i.e people who for one reason or another won't work no matter what. so i believe the current unemployment is the equivalent to "full employment". everyone who wants a job has one at this point. employers are competing for workers.

see for example how evolghost was complaining that his office is severely understaffed? guess what? that's a sign of low unemployment. businesses need people and can't find any more.

as for bernie.. omfg dont get me started

i am waiting for the democratic savior who will maintain prosperity and get rid of the orange blob. the commies ain't that-- at all.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.19.2019 05:41 PM

Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...uality-n973081

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BERLIN — The Trump administration is launching a global campaign to end the criminalization of homosexuality in dozens of nations where it's still illegal to be gay, U.S. officials tell NBC News, a bid aimed in part at denouncing Iran over its human rights record.

U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, the highest-profile openly gay person in the Trump administration, is leading the effort, which kicks off Tuesday evening in Berlin. The U.S. embassy is flying in LGBT activists from across Europe for a strategy dinner to plan to push for decriminalization in places that still outlaw homosexuality — mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa and the Caribbean.

“It is concerning that, in the 21st century, some 70 countries continue to have laws that criminalize LGBTI status or conduct,” said a U.S. official involved in organizing the event

!@#$%! 02.19.2019 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
I thank you for your excellent argument in favor of protective tariffs.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...D&&FORM=VRDGAR

tariffs are just how the consumer provides financial life support for a dying industry

they are an inefficient use of resources that makes everyone poorer: the consumer pays more for inferior goods, the government wastes the collected tariff in some boondoggle, the subsidized worker goes deeper into a hole that goes nowhere, smugglers break the law to bring the superior cheaper product to the consumer, etc.

mercantilism belongs to another era. protectionism is stupid. trade makes everyone richer.

im typing this on an ipad that has more power than the computers that sent the apollo 11 mission to the moon and it costs less than 300 bucks now. i can watch tv on it, play games, read and study, do some light work, communicate with the whole planet, access huge troves of information, etc.

not in 1000 lifetimes could i make this for myself alone.

trade and specialization and global economic integration are what makes this little miracle possible.

it’s not my income that matters so much, but what my income allows me to consume

i am infinitely richer than previous generations for this device alone.

i remember a ti e when people had to buy encyclopaedias haaaaa haaaaa haaaaa

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.19.2019 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
low unemployment doesn't meant that "people are forced to work multiple jobs". that's what lady o'casio said right? lmao. that's so wrong. she's clueless bud, sorry. don't be mislead by her good looks.
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No that's my own theory

But for the record, if she did say it I would just agree instantly


I always agree with attractive women
I'm a feminist
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!@#$%! 02.19.2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
I always agree with attractive women
I'm a feminist
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lmao you horndog

get your brain to fight back

 

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.19.2019 10:04 PM

Ask me if I'd rather see the 16th chapel or Elsa Jean...

I'm picking Elsa Jean every time. I bet she smells like muffins.

!@#$%! 02.19.2019 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Ask me if I'd rather see the 16th chapel or Elsa Jean...

I'm picking Elsa Jean every time. I bet she smells like muffins.

i had to google her

more like antibiotics maybe? :D

but yeah i get your point... monica bellucci is my preferred italian masterpiece of all times haaa haaaa haaa

!@#$%! 02.19.2019 10:40 PM

fuck, i could not wait to get out of high school either

total fucking prison

i still get nightmares about it now and then ha ha ha

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.19.2019 11:25 PM

Now, listen to Monica very closely, Symbols...

 


"The means of production belong to the people, !@#$%!. I want you to give 70% of your income to Dr. Eugene Felikson so he can upgrade his computer, !@#$%! Also his wrist hurts so you should buy him a new one and a better camera while he jerks off, chugs coffee, and watches the Hotel Transylvania movies repeatedly while ignoring all of your foreign film recomendations and crying online how his generation has it harder than those prior, !@#$%!"

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.20.2019 12:24 AM

Bernie Sanders Raises Over $3.3 Million From 120,000 Small Donors in Just 10 Hours

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...-just-10-hours

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After an out-of-the-gate fundraising spree following the initial announcement early Tuesday morning (see below), sources from within the Bernie Sanders presidential campaign report that in just 10 hours—as of 5:00 PM ET—it was able to raise $3.3 million from approximately 120,000 donors.

The resulting donation average might sound familiar to those who remember the number Sanders turned into a catchphrase during his 2016 campaign: $27.

Y'know what? Fuck it, I'm hopping back on the Bernie train. I don't care how old the man is. If he loses the primaries, then fine. I'll vote for anyone who can dethrone Donald Trump

dirty bunny 02.20.2019 12:42 AM

Howard Shultz is the best non-Trump candidate.



I think he's refreshing. Self-made billionaire. Left-centre. Not a loony.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.20.2019 01:02 AM

The Starbucks guy?

 


Aren't we past the whole running the country as if it were a business thing by now?
I'd like someone with political experience please.

dirty bunny 02.20.2019 02:26 AM

Experience isn't everything. A career politician can become so entangled in things they forget where they came from.

And the guy was poor, so he knows what that's like.

!@#$%! 02.20.2019 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Now, listen to Monica very closely, Symbols...

 


[i]"The means of production belong to the people, !@#$%!.

Yes Dear Monica yes... we should buy more stocks... so that we increase our ownership... you are so glorious...

 

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.20.2019 08:16 AM

Yes, Elsa... we need to eradicate the poor. Yes, Elsa... running a nation is no more nuanced than running a restaurant chain. Yes, Elsa... people's lives are no different than mocha lattes and brand recognition. Yes, Elsa... I'll wash all your flip-flops with my tongue...

 

!@#$%! 02.20.2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Yes, Elsa... we need to eradicate the poor.

capitalism has eradicated poverty much better than communism ever did

communism gave the world empty promises, famines, exterminations, chernobyl, and extensive gulags.

look at china-- they used to have famines until the mid-late 20th century. the government's orders? "exterminate birds". fucking morons. look at china prospering now with a market economy.

yes their capitalism is not democratic. that sucks. that comes from their communist past. they still have a million uighurs in "reeducation camps".

that's communism for you.

here you watch tv and get brainwashed in a peaceful manner lmao

and yes economic principles apply across the economy, whether it's your own pocketbook or a chain restaurant. bernie doesn't know shit except empty promises. same con as trump. same fucking con.

ilduclo 02.20.2019 08:55 AM

Bernie, please no...

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.20.2019 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
capitalism has eradicated poverty much better than communism ever did

communism gave the world empty promises, famines, exterminations, chernobyl, and extensive gulags.

look at china-- they used to have famines until the mid-late 20th century. the government's orders? "exterminate birds". fucking morons. look at china prospering now with a market economy.

yes their capitalism is not democratic. that sucks. that comes from their communist past. they still have a million uighurs in "reeducation camps".

that's communism for you.

here you watch tv and get brainwashed in a peaceful manner lmao

and yes economic principles apply across the economy, whether it's your own pocketbook or a chain restaurant. bernie doesn't know shit except empty promises. same con as trump. same fucking con.


Lmfao, i'm not some full-blown commie over here. You don't need to keep hammering basic economics at me. I have chores to tend to this morning, but here's what I believe in a nutshell:

America rules, first and foremost. Greatest country of all time, and yes the country became that way based on the merits of capitalism. And yes, just like with capitalism, I realize that with communism/socialism/etc. that somebody is always at the top holding the power. Don't forget, I'm a former business major, symbols.

However, the problem with capitalism is that it works a little too good. You see, a business is in business to stay in business. That's all a business cares about. Each time you create a business, it's almost like breeding a monster who will stop at nothing to grow as large as humanly possible. All this P.R. bollocks is never anything more than marketing tactics, as if any dish soap executive really gives a fuck about washing some oil off of a duck.

Through capitalism, America has become an absolute monster. So many people are drowning, or feel there is no way to have their voices be heard, or their needs be fulfilled. This is why poor people turn to crime and should therefore be eradicated ( :p ) Desperate needs call for desperate measures, and people will do whatever it takes to survive. Should I remind you just how much of this country was built off of the whip-scarred backs of slaves?

When you have limited resources in a country, and some bozo has a bowling alley in his bathroom, and some other poor sap is losing their home because they can't afford to pay their medical bills: something is wrong. We need a redistribution of wealth.

Humans are not barbarians, and this 'survival of the fittest' bullshit which capitalism is based off of is no longer acceptable in 2019. As a society, we should have moved past that long ago. Is 10 million a year really not enough to live off of? Is that not an acceptable maximum wage? If you make that much, then you're damn right the rest of your money should go towards the rest of the people in your country. You sick greedy billionaire bastards.

I lost my train of thought... but yeah, America rules and I'm so proud of my country. But without the people living here, this country is nothing. I want what's best for my people, symbols. Each and every one of them is on my team. Even Donald Trump... el bastardo.

!@#$%! 02.20.2019 09:30 AM

when the government gets in the business to take from one to give to another usually it does not redistribute wealth but poverty

"good intentions" does not equate good results

unintended consequences can be HUGE

and therein lies the problem

doesn't matter what your major was, if you're still buying the bernie snake oil

a lot of business majors get conned on a regular basis

also you don't understand how business works :D

you think "it's evil"-- but only a business that serves the consumer well grows and endures-- unless it has government support


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