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EVOLghost 11.09.2009 08:03 AM

My truck's brake just shit itself. Awesome. Now I wait.

!@#$%! 11.10.2009 03:05 PM

nothing. this.

Rob Instigator 11.10.2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
no it's not. it's really not. if you moved house as often as i do, you'd definitely see the value in it. i love paper books but they are HEAVY and take up a lot of space.

my wife and i have sworn to travel light from now on-- the lp records and the books are the only compromise, but damn, my books need their own room.

in my current apartment i have a measly shelf and all my books are stored in a house 200 miles away, part in boxes, part on shelves-- so if i'm talking with a friend about say a borges story, and i wanna look up a reference, i'd have to drive for a couple of hours to get the thing.

if anything, the kindle has the potential to spark a book renaissance. no ugly ads, no internet distractions, just the book. publishing is cheaper. less transportation costs. more rare books accessible to everyone. think of it as the book of sand-- a little less fantastic, but works the same.

with "global 3G" (whatever the fuck that is), you can take your kindle pretty much anywhere in the world and have access to your book collection. imagine a decade or two from now, you'll have access to the whole contents of the library of congress from a single device. the idea of such a thing makes me totally horny for the future.


all true, but also much easier for "the MAN" to know exactly what yr reading when you read it.

!@#$%! 11.10.2009 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
all true, but also much easier for "the MAN" to know exactly what yr reading when you read it.


im waiting for my man
26 dollars in my hand


there's no "man" that's after me. the man fingerprinted and photographed me, took my blood samples, interrogated me in front of a camera, and mailed me a green card. if i was going to be paranoid, i'd have bigger things to worry about.

besides, im not reading manuals on making dirty bombs-- fact is, i don't even think amazon sells those, much less through the kindle. if someone wanted to know what books i read they could subpoena amazon and barnes & noble, they have the list of a lot of the books i've bought the past 10 years, including manuals on how to shove beads up a lady's ass. they could also interrogate my local seller of used books-- i live mere blocks away from him anyway and he could pick me out of a crowd. but really, who the fuck cares about what i do?

a few years ago i saw a yellowed copy of abbie hoffman's "steal this book" selling for $40. i laughed.

---

ps-- the most "subversive" books i've ever read i've read at library of congress-- CIA sabotage manuals, apologias of the MRTA, and various others. the man gave them to me free of charge!

!@#$%! 11.10.2009 03:45 PM

actually (i just checked), amazon sells abbie hoffman's books, various anarchist cookbook editions, another thing called "dirty tricks"...

ha ha, i wanna buy one now!!!

see this: you can read a bit

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0873641868/

Rob Instigator 11.10.2009 04:08 PM

one neutron bomb and yr Kindle is DEAD.
drop it awkwardly and it is DEAD
get it wet and it is DEAD
sit on it and it is DEAD
scratch the front text panel and it is DEAD

just talkin trash.

I just like holding books in my hand. Books are far more than just text on a page. None of my beloved art books would be worth shit on a Kindle.

phoenix 11.10.2009 04:45 PM

writhing in pain while i wait for my doctors appointment.

I almost just want to go to the hospital, but I will not.

Rob Instigator 11.10.2009 05:03 PM

fuck. hope you feel better

!@#$%! 11.10.2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenix
writhing in pain while i wait for my doctors appointment.

I almost just want to go to the hospital, but I will not.


damn, is the appointment today? why suffer?

!@#$%! 11.10.2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
one neutron bomb and yr Kindle is DEAD.
drop it awkwardly and it is DEAD
get it wet and it is DEAD
sit on it and it is DEAD
scratch the front text panel and it is DEAD

just talkin trash.

I just like holding books in my hand. Books are far more than just text on a page. None of my beloved art books would be worth shit on a Kindle.


ha ha ha @ neutron bomb

if amazon went bankrupt i'd be fucked too.

now barnes and noble makes their ebooks compatible with a bunch of stuff-- you don't need a kindle, you can read them on computer.

but eh, don't get me wrong, i wouldn't rely solely on a kindle, or on e-books. they don't replace a good library, with its awesome smell. and beautiful artbooks on a kindle are laughable-- impossible really (so far, anyway). and huge atlases? books are awesome. once in a library i held in my hands the 1918 edition of cesar vallejo's trilce, which he had printed in the prison workshop after he got out of jail. a fucking treasure of literature, and it was circulating like it was nothing. and it smelled yummy. it was a fucking glorious day. i have some awesome books in my library that i love. but i can't fucking hump them everywhere, and i live like a gypsy. besides, a lot of books are shit paperbacks that i buy for the content, not as book objects. so those can go on the kindle. so imagine. 1500 books in one device. imagine the possibilities in coming years. imagine access to-- all books-- from a little screen. everything. anything. the library of congress accessible to all.

well in the future future we'll just mainline the books to our brains-- but in between, fuck yes! i'll get a kindle when they make them just right.

Satan 11.10.2009 05:31 PM

kindle is a stupid word.


what am i doing?

i'm brooding.

finding nobody 11.10.2009 05:51 PM

I am watching Hebrew Hammer.. good shit

verme (prevaricator) 11.10.2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
now barnes and noble makes their ebooks compatible with a bunch of stuff-- you don't need a kindle, you can read them on computer.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/?docId=1000426311

apple is expected to come up with something next january, you might want to hold on.

or not.

Rob Instigator 11.10.2009 06:00 PM

I love closing a book when I am finished with it.

!@#$%! 11.10.2009 06:20 PM

CORRECTION, DAMMIT: trilce is not from 1918, but from 1922. los heraldos negros is the one that's from 1918. i was thinking about this earlier, so here i am to post. fuck factual errors, they multiply like garbanzos evaporate into a fart.

Quote:

Originally Posted by verme (prevaricator)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/?docId=1000426311

apple is expected to come up with something next january, you might want to hold on.

or not.


hm, yeah, ebook readers... b&n has its own for pc+mac, plus the iphone/ipod touch and the crackberry. and i have this shitty little white macbook that could be my next library. not sure i could read in the ipod-- i don't like it much and it's tiny and i have FAT FINGERS.

see: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/ebooks/index.asp



Quote:

Originally Posted by Satan
kindle is a stupid word.


what am i doing?

i'm brooding.


barnes & noble has come up with its own version called the NOOK. that word i like. so many good associations.


Quote:

Originally Posted by finding nobody
I am watching Hebrew Hammer.. good shit


indeed. it's a terrible movie, but it's funny.

verme (prevaricator) 11.10.2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I love closing a book when I am finished with it.

different formats, different purposes.
this is just another format, ffs.

books aren't all the same. think of technical books for example, did you ever got emotionally attached to them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
hm, yeah, ebook readers... b&n has its own for pc+mac, plus the iphone/ipod touch and the crackberry. and i have this shitty little white macbook that could be my next library. not sure i could read in the ipod-- i don't like it much and it's tiny and i have FAT FINGERS.

see: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/ebooks/index.asp

yes i've seen that, i was just pointing out that amazon is also doing the same thing.

i've gotten used to read on screen.
but my 'library' is mostly pirated stuff, i have to say.

!@#$%! 11.10.2009 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verme (prevaricator)
yes i've seen that, i was just pointing out that amazon is also doing the same thing.

i've gotten used to read on screen.
but my 'library' is mostly pirated stuff, i have to say.


yeah, they're trying to cut each other's throats. amazon as the pioneer could be blown out of the water by imitators-- it often happens.

i have no problem reading on teh computer, or reading briefly on the ipod touch. i actually read a whole novel on my palm PDA circa 200..1? but i wouldn't use a tiny screen for a long book again. a 13" laptop screen however is sufficient.

verme (prevaricator) 11.10.2009 06:53 PM

i'd say the only serious threat to amazon is google.

!@#$%! 11.10.2009 07:08 PM

i dont know here in the u.s., cuz a lot of book people go to barnes and noble-- they have the stores AND the online store, and amazone has no store.

in the 90s all independent bookstores were gobbled up by borders (an original minnesota bookstore chain that was eaten by kmart) and barnes & noble. the rest was destroyed by amazon. so in terms of going to the bookstore (a great pleasure always), borders & b&N have the market cornered. and i think barnes & noble might win that, cuz borders sucks a bit.

then again, who knows. i don't know the relative size of b&n vs. amazon's book-only business. cuz amazon is HUUUGE. oh yes and they are semi-global, the fuckers. like ms vs. apple? eh, you never know.

google i dont know. they seem to have a lot of cool shit that never makes an actual good product. their android phones haven't exactly become the latest hot shit.

verme (prevaricator) 11.10.2009 08:25 PM

that's true, but android is just starting and it will probably get an extra push now that they've broken up with apple.
have you heard about google voice and google maps navigation?
they are making a lot of companies tremble.

actually, android is probably what will be running on most e-book readers.
that b&n reader runs android.

this market is going to be google vs apple vs amazon.

and you know who's global? not amazon, not apple.

Satan 11.10.2009 08:54 PM

i always said that google is gonna take over the goddamn world one day

Dead-Air 11.10.2009 09:58 PM

drinking wine, watching sesame street videos on you tube with lennon, and waiting for my canadian dream girl to reappear online. I also have a show to plan for on Friday the Thirteenth, but motivation is not my strong suit at the moment. time to go check my email again...

phoenix 11.11.2009 02:10 AM

so, still in pain. all my tests (so far) are nothing nothing nothing. He gave me some dealy for IBS and if it doesn't go away I get to have more tests. YAY.

whatever makes the pain stop, really.

phoenix 11.11.2009 02:12 AM

aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnd. I just started making really really really mild tandoori chicken with rice/asparagus for dinner. It might make me feel worse, but I crave the spicey foods. :(

I also bought nori so I think the rest of the week will just be plain sushi/avocado and porridge at breakfast. awesome.

Dead-Air 11.11.2009 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by phoenix
aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnd. I just started making really really really mild tandoori chicken with rice/asparagus for dinner. It might make me feel worse, but I crave the spicey foods. :(

I also bought nori so I think the rest of the week will just be plain sushi/avocado and porridge at breakfast. awesome.


God stomach pain is the worst. So sorry to hear. I had some issues with that, but it turned out (and I figured it out without help from the doctors) that I was just eating too much and not exercising enough (I have a high metabolism so it didn't make me obese, though when I fixed things I did lose 40 pounds...) I doubt that's your problem though. Doctors are so clueless about this stuff though. At least that's my experience.

phoenix 11.11.2009 04:32 AM

It is fucking crappy! I've not slept well the last two nights because of it. :(

As far as I am concerned, I have a fairly healthy diet ( sometimes I get a sweet tooth and eat junk like cake but it isn't TOO often) and I do a fair amount of exercise.. so yeh it's a bit out of the blue. If anything I am underweight, but I've always been that way.

I did have a bout of random IBS in 2003(apparently) and my doctor has given me the same thing I was given back then. For the moment it seems to have helped, I still have some pains but I feel much less bloated and as if I'll 'splode any minute.. but I'll see how I go in the next week.

I'll spend some more time making an effort to relax and not spaz/skitz out and have put han solo on probation ( he encourages me and eggs me on when I am already in a bad mood ). + will book in hippy junk like a reiki session/healer session and massage I think.

_slavo_ 11.11.2009 04:42 AM

get well soon phoenix

Satan 11.11.2009 04:46 AM

coughing up a goddamn lung

_slavo_ 11.11.2009 04:47 AM

get your lungs together soon too, satan ;)

phoenix 11.11.2009 05:07 AM

thanks hun

ALIEN ANAL 11.11.2009 05:14 AM

minced as ey

phoenix 11.11.2009 05:21 AM

drinking warmed up vanilla soy


thinking about going through my wardrobe to throw things out
thinking about needing to buy new shoes for work before next week
thinking about buying some new t shirts online
thinking about how much $$ I have in my bank account (not much)
listening to musak
enjoying the lack of tv electro humming in my house right now

Satan 11.11.2009 05:30 AM

thanks slavo. i'm alright now.

ALIEN ANAL 11.11.2009 05:34 AM

post stoned
post first beer
surfing web and drawing
i can hear my Indian neighbors jamming above me

Satan 11.11.2009 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALIEN ANAL
i can hear my Indian neighbors jamming above me


indian music?


JEALOUS

ALIEN ANAL 11.11.2009 05:40 AM

if i were you..id be jealous too

Satan 11.11.2009 09:20 AM

thats way too rad to even comprehend. i love indian music.


right now im making a cake. bfs birthday.

_slavo_ 11.11.2009 09:47 AM

i'm having various kinds of daydreams right now.
very vivid and mostly very nice, actually.

phoenix 11.11.2009 09:48 AM

going to bed

Dead-Air 11.11.2009 12:03 PM

Watching old Sesame Streets w/ Lennon and realizing this shit is as much for me as for him. Feeling incredibly moody today, probably the weather. It's as foggy outside at the moment as the inside of my head. I've got today off for Veteran's Day. That's odd, but any excuse.


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