oh this tired false narrative again? i admit to being wrong all the time, and apologize here more than anyone. indeed i apologize for the dickhead high horse remark earlier, that was immature of me.

in this instance of the black lives matter comment im not the one who made the mistake and so i owe neither apologies nor explanations, but demonrail does.

Just go home and smoke a big fat joint man

haha noted.

to be sure I'm not mad at anyone, i know reading words doesn't always well convey tone. i don't mean to pick on demonrail or anyone else, but what was said was said and needed to be called out.

aside from that i hope he and everyone else knows its all good

im drinking aperol and beer

salud!

IPAs for me right now
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I don't see any need to apologise (to who, BLM?) but I don't mind explaining.

I was saying that we live in an era when political groups make violent statements that require no interpretation. I mistakenly used BLM as an example, but could've easily used certain fundamentalist religious groups, or far right fascist ones instead - who make no bones about their aims and methods. My point was that, in such a climate, maybe a few people's powers of interpretation become blunted to thinly veiled statements of provocation by people such as Trump.

I wasn't aware that the 'dead cops now' chant wasn't actually made by members of BLM. News coverage here suggested it had and I didn't know about any counter claims until El Symbols pointed it out. I imagine the counter claim was big news in the US. It wasn't here, where we had to deal with stuff like Brexit, a resigning prime minister, a labour party meltdown, Boris Johnson's appointment as foreign secretary, whether Tony Blair is a war criminal, a panic about terrorism, Joe Hart's future at Man City.

Noam sez vote Hillary! Bet he never thought he'd say that.

Anonymous just sez vote anyone but Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rx6Ho60u_8

he said swallow your bitter spit and do your duty ha ha ha

what a fascist!

ha ha ha ha

but yeah this is the same as the show right? because i heard that conversation on the radio.

thank you for clarification. sorry for barking at you. you should know here there is a racist agenda to smear Black Lives Matters as a violent and racist group. it wants to portray it as anti white, anti cop.

BBC News accurately reports Black Lives Matters information, if the British news sources you read gave you the wrong information perhaps time to get a new news source?

the reason i jumped on you was the racist agenda to portray Black Lives Matter is intended to totally discredit the group and movement as being a violent hate group so that the real message of anti police brutality anti corruption can be swept under the rug of misinformation.

the American police kill 1,200 people a year. its a serious issue. the police have killed people close to me. its a sensitive issue

actually Noam has never been real big on ideological purity. Pragmatic, I'd say, he's got a real sense of history, so that leads one into decision points that go in a better direction ahead

and btw i know all about brexit, dumbass boris, and terrorism threats in UK so honestly its not that hard to be informed about both domestic and international news

1200 total kills or 1200 innocents?

how many innocents and how many dangerous criminals in actual shootouts?

percentages?

i'd research this myself but its saturday and lunch is upon me

very few of those are shootouts or warranted.

i have a hangover! what kind of shitty beer that was...

i just wanna know if they kill more innocents than terrorists

im so high right now on tomato salad holy shit

a) the data on numbers killed is hard enough to calculate because the federal government doesn't keep this data, its found by investigating news sources that compile news from all over the nation.

b) anecdotal evidence suggests more are unarmed than not


c) remember even if the victims were committing a crime, we have due process, summary executions is not justice even for criminals

white people, particularly middle aged but even some younger folks, are at a rabid boiling point of seething racist distrust of black and brown people. i would have said this is hyperbole even just a year or two ago, but the sad reality is its getting worse.

if white people are going to be so tone deaf and antagonistic, demonizing any efforts towards positive race relations and social justice as "libtards" and some kind of "conspiracy" well i sincerely fear there will be race riots like in 1968.

even more sad i dare say its what white people want so they can feel justified in their irrational fears and racial insecurities..

:( Lord Have His mercy