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the new Future album is great, just like everything else he's done to date.

New 'face album is coming out soon
http://youtu.be/2c6cYLHNCz4

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

New 'face album is coming out soon
http://youtu.be/2c6cYLHNCz4

nice, he was on the Combat Jack Show podcast last week. I haven't heard the episode yet, but must be promoting.

Gots to promote, cuz the black radio won't play him.

that is cuz ain't no young folkz give a fuck about Face. ITS 2014 yo. Shit, people didn't give enough fuck about Scarface ...in 1994 let alone 2014 ;)

One of most underrated MCs of all time, probably should have made my B-List but I didn't have the heart

young folks do not "determine" programming. programming on radio is specifically aimed to shove acts down young people's throats. face has talked about this.

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

young folks do not "determine" programming. programming on radio is specifically aimed to shove acts down young people's throats. face has talked about this.

Face is just being bitter because they never invited him to that "radio/MTV rap" club even though he has rapped with all of the biggest names of the 1990s (hence why he deserved to be on my b-list top 5)!! The reality is that people just didn't care. He DID catch a little bit of radio fame, at precisely the time when he could have taken off! Yet, people just didn't bite on it. It doesn't negate his talent, but it is just a reality of the situation. Scarface wasn't entirely pushed out by the record industry, people in general were just not feeling it!

Come to think of it, I think I put Scarface in my top-5 of local rap heroes and rightfully so..

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

By the way, I think we should distinguish between B-List rappers whose legacy is guest appearances in nationally popular groups and those whose career was merely limited to the local scene.

My top 5 locals only?

(1) Scarface: Yeah. This dude is BAD! But really, outside of Houston and LA never caught on. Should. THIS is still perhaps the single best rap song ever released. Cadence. Substance. Delivery. Beats. Samples. What more do we need?

(2) DJ Quik: While Quik did get some national attention, realistically he was more like a traditional B-List supporting rapper who made a career rapping on other peoples' tracks BUT in LA dude is definitely a certified veteran legend.

(3) The Grouch: This dude was the antithesis to Eminem, he was a white rapper that surprised everybody. A Yay Area staple that didn't translate well out of the underground scene. Even in LA folks be like, "Who?"

(4) Silkk the Shocker: I also really loved Silkk, but this dude really didn't get big beyond the New Orleans area, even when No Limit was at its 1999 peak. Still, a solid and very original a rapper, and whose solo releases were actually better than his guest appearances.

(5) Twista: While for a brief window it appeared that Twista might jump on Death Row bandwagon and catch fame, he came a few years too late, especially as The Chronic 2001 essentially destroyed Death Row's attempt at an early 2000s revival. Twista was big in Chi-town though, and the dude had a lot of unique skills and an original persona. I personally was digging it.

have you guys ever listened to GZA's debut ("Words from the Genius")? is it worth checking out?

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Originally Posted by louder

have you guys ever listened to GZA's debut ("Words from the Genius")? is it worth checking out?

worth checking out, but sounds nothing like Liquid Swords y'know? It's very much a product of its time. "Stay Out Of Bars" was always a track I liked. There's some good songs there.

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worth checking out, but sounds nothing like Liquid Swords y'know? It's very much a product of its time. "Stay Out Of Bars" was always a track I liked. There's some good songs there.

aight, i'll give it a listen soon then. ;)

here's what GZA himself said about the album:

"I was signed to Cold Chillin' 'bout five years ago," GZA recalled in 1995. "They put out an album but didn't promote it. They tried to put it out again last year after everything happened with the Clan, put a '94 date on it, but still didn't put any money behind it, so it didn't sell twice. I'm still proud of it, though. The beats ain't all that but, lyrically, shit was bangin'. So it wasn't all peaches and cream, but I was determined to break through. 'A quitter never wins, and a winner never quits.'"

.. interesting.

by the way, i just ordered this book: The Wu-Tang Manual

i'm gonna learn so much from it, right? so excited.

I had the 95 version back in the day> I think it was re-released w/ the original art again in the early 2000's.

I read the Wu-Tang Manual. It's great.

The MD Anderson library at the University of HOuston where I work has been digitgizing their Hip Hop collections from Special Collections department. They just released the link to HAWK's archive. http://digital.lib.uh.edu/collection/hawk

There are also tons of DJ screw, Big Moe, and H-town hip hop history items.

thx for the link, Rob! Tons of cool stuff to dig thru when I got time. I saw Pen & Pixel photoshoots in there. Unreal.

I got to go see a lot of these photos, old records, and other artifacts in the flesh at our library last year. One of those moments that actually made me feel some school spirit.

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I got to go see a lot of these photos, old records, and other artifacts in the flesh at our library last year. One of those moments that actually made me feel some school spirit.

that's cool.

If you guys didn't, I'd recommend the book Dirty South to read. The chapter on Screw is really great.

so viewtiful.. do you like Honest?

^haven't listened to it yet. Is it more ballad or banger heavy?

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^haven't listened to it yet. Is it more ballad or banger heavy?

there is a good mix of both. and there's a song with Andre 3000 that's dope as hell. Andre and Future start exchanging bars and their flow is crazy.

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there is a good mix of both. and there's a song with Andre 3000 that's dope as hell. Andre and Future start exchanging bars and their flow is crazy.

interest level just went way up.

BUT

I heard 4 or so tracks off the new Pharoahe Monch album and now I'm pretty pumped to pick that up. PTSD. Some crazy tracks on there. Monch is awesome. I was a big Organized Konfusion fan back in the day.