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louder 05.31.2015 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Listening to XXX right now. Admittedly, it does kill it. But so does Hot Soup. I haven't put as much time into The Hybrid, as I don't own a physical copy of it, but I'm pretty sure it's dope as well.

Funny that Danny was being vetted for G-Unit at one point. I can't say it's a match I'd have come up with. But you never know.

You know that scene The Dark Knight where the token black gangster orders his thugs to bring him the joker's body, and then some thugs come in with a body bag, and when the "boss" opens it up, Jokers jumps up and the thugs who brought him in pull out AK's and point them at everyone while the Joker puts a knife to boss-boy's cheek and drops him like a a rag doll?

I can't help but think of that scene when I hear about 50 Cent dissing Danny Brown. G-Unit had their time, but Danny Brown is like the fucking joker; infinitely more talented and versatile than Don Fitty. I can't imagine he'd stage a coup and rip 50's face apart, but you get the idea.

yeah. Danny said that 50 Cent didn't let him in G-Unit because he wore skinny jeans, lol.

but then things turned out the best for him. he would probably never make XXX if he did.

Severian 05.31.2015 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
yeah. Danny said that 50 Cent didn't let him in G-Unit because he wore skinny jeans, lol.

but then things turned out the best for him. he would probably never make XXX if he did.



He's too weird and crazy for G-Unit, or for 50... For most rap fans even. Don't get me wrong, I think he works well in a group (1train) and some groups would be more up his alley than G-Unit (like, uhh, Three Six Mafia maybe? Or Underachievers? But G-unit is straight forward thug rap. Danny is a wildcard, and 50 probably just didn't want to be upstaged.


Though I have no love for skinny jeans. It's impossible to look even semi-professional in skinny pants of any kind. Loafers look awkward, and testicles tend to suffer. They are the enemy of tasteful attire.

noisereductions 05.31.2015 08:04 PM

In fairness I think 50 is a pretty weird funny dude. Look at "how to rob" or his rick ross diss videos. Problem is, as a buz man he realized where he fits in, and just plays to his niche.

Severian 05.31.2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
In fairness I think 50 is a pretty weird funny dude. Look at "how to rob" or his rick ross diss videos. Problem is, as a buz man he realized where he fits in, and just plays to his niche.


Yeah, I actually think he's pretty hilarious when he wants to be. I also think he is, or was, an exceptional rapper. But ... I think Danny Brown's more exceptional, and also more funny. But they're apples and oranges, which is probably why they'd end up killing one another if they were Batman villains. ;)

noisereductions 05.31.2015 09:02 PM

Agreed!

louder 06.01.2015 02:14 AM

Surf is growing on me.

it kinda sounds like Sesame Street music :) lol. it makes me happy.

Rob Instigator 06.01.2015 03:01 PM

I watch Street Flava which comes on in Houston late Saturday nights.

D Solo has had this video show for over 20 years, first on Houston PBS, then he went to a regular syndication because too many old ladies complained about the Bootie Poppin video being aired on PBS. HA!

Either way. They focus mainly on Southern rap acts, for Street Flava is the "soul of the South."

Do you guys listen to these tracks?

Kevin Gates - I Don't Get Tired
https://youtu.be/_gB2iWln0ls

Kevin Gates - Out Da Mud
https://youtu.be/b-QZzVytupY

WALE - Girls On Drugs
https://youtu.be/MhHoJX8oIDA

and this lunatic, Chedda Da Connect, who seems like a pimp who woke up feelin like he was on the Moon...
Chedda Da Connect - Flicka Da Wrist
https://youtu.be/RKWb9MGtVmw

noisereductions 06.01.2015 05:26 PM

That Chedda song is everywhere lately

Rob Instigator 06.02.2015 08:40 AM

indeed. his name is hilarious.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.02.2015 09:37 AM

Its insane to me that 36 Mafia actually put out more than one record... when their first one came out it was so ludicrously bad, they were so bad, it all screamed one hit wonder..

The wonder was how did they even have one hit to begin with?

Its not like the mainstream radio crowd is fraught with smokers, snorters, and sippers who drop pills yo

noisereductions 06.02.2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Its insane to me that 36 Mafia actually put out more than one record... when their first one came out it was so ludicrously bad, they were so bad, it all screamed one hit wonder..

The wonder was how did they even have one hit to begin with?

Its not like the mainstream radio crowd is fraught with smokers, snorters, and sippers who drop pills yo


their first album was Mystic Stylez in 1995. There was a "hit" on there? What? Anyway, their early albums are incredibly good. So yeah. I disagree with your post.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.02.2015 12:32 PM

Incredibly good and 36 Mafia are incongruent..

 

louder 06.02.2015 12:35 PM

@Rob: i've heard the Chedda song before. catchy but not something i'd bump on the regular.

Mystic Stylez is a classic. but it's a Digable Planets kind of day. :)

noisereductions 06.02.2015 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Incredibly good and 36 Mafia are incongruent..


your opinion is yours to have. There's lots of Three 6 stuff I love.

I do some times get the feeling that you hate on stuff that you've spent little time listening to. I don't know if I'm right on this one. But you give the impression of snap judgments sometimes.

Rob Instigator 06.02.2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
@Rob: i've heard the Chedda song before. catchy but not something i'd bump on the regular.
:)


it's not great by any means, but I dig how rappers are now proudly flying their psychedelic, drugs-other-than-coke-and-weed, freak flags. I cannot WAIT for the Butthole Surfers of rap!!!

(and please, PLEASE do not respond that MFDOOM is that)

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.02.2015 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
your opinion is yours to have. There's lots of Three 6 stuff I love.

I do some times get the feeling that you hate on stuff that you've spent little time listening to. I don't know if I'm right on this one. But you give the impression of snap judgments sometimes.



Music is a matter of personal taste, i never found any interest in pursuing 36 Mafia clown rap any further.. you're free to dig it, im just expressing my opinion. Im notoriously picky about my rap

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.02.2015 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
it's not great by any means, but I dig how rappers are now proudly flying their psychedelic, drugs-other-than-coke-and-weed, freak flags. I cannot WAIT for the Butthole Surfers of rap!!!

(and please, PLEASE do not respond that MFDOOM is that)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7QT44ohbeXk

noisereductions 06.02.2015 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Music is a matter of personal taste, i never found any interest in pursuing 36 Mafia clown rap any further.. you're free to dig it, im just expressing my opinion. Im notoriously picky about my rap


I agree it's personal taste. I'm just saying I feel like your pickiness is more stubborness at times. Like, you might hear one song out of a group that has a dozen albums, but decide that they're terrible. Even though you haven't heard but the tip of the iceberg of their discography.

I'm not saying that you have to be a fan. But I feel like you write off something pretty quickly - and even here admit that you didn't pursue very far - yet, then call it "clown rap" or whatever dismissive comments you might make, which seems unfair if you really haven't taken the time to check it out and see if you're opinions actually match your assumptions.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.02.2015 03:41 PM

Nope,ive heard entire 36 mafia records.. still not interested.. i dont take my dissing music lightly, i check shit out, especially in the youtube era when ots easy to find access

noisereductions 06.02.2015 03:56 PM

alright well (huge) diff of opinion then.

Currently my fav Three 6 album is their 2nd one, The End:

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It's kind of weird to call your second album The End, but whatever. The greatness of this album totally overshadows any nitpicking of the title. It certainly picks up right where Mystic Stylez left off. It's got that same creepy vibe, yet is far better produced. The album kicks off with "Stomp" - a track that samples the theme song from Unsolved Mysteries and carries all the creepy cache that said theme song might carry. It's haunting and spooky and impressive and dope. It's also an excellent way to start things up. The record moves along and manages to never sound overlong even at 17 tracks. The well thought-out sequencing plays a big role in this. "Late Night Tip" is another eerie track with fantastic back-and-forth between Gangsta Boo and Lord Infamous. "Walk Up 2 Yo House" makes you feel like these guys are insane - in a good way. Later on Project Pat shows up on "Where Da Killaz Hang," a track that makes a stray Master P lyric sound like the most demented thing you've ever heard. It slowly makes your head nod, but also makes you feel kind of nervous at the same time. Three 6 is great at making these kinds of schizophrenic tracks. The album closes with the one-two punch of "The End," an instrumental that could very well be a horror movie score, and "Life Or Death" a Killa Klan Kaze track that heavily features snippets of Makavelli's "Hail Mary" slowed down for ultimately macabre-ness. Whereas many artists can only hope to avoid the sophomore slump, Three 6 Mafia has managed to follow up their debut with a record that is absolutely stunning.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.02.2015 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
alright well (huge) diff of opinion then.

Currently my fav Three 6 album is their 2nd one, The End:

Yes we mentioned that.. like i said i meant it no personal diss to you.. after all you always stick up for my unpopular musical opinions.

noisereductions 06.02.2015 04:05 PM

word. And I wasn't coming at you - just more curious how much Three 6 you've heard while making these statements. I've been in a huge Three 6 phase lately tho. Besides The End, bumping Mystic Stylez, Unbreakables, Most Unkown Hits, Smoked Out Loc'ed Out + chopped n screwed disc... I think a lot of stuff I love now (A$AP Mob!) has its roots firmly in Three 6 (...or maybe Three 6 mashed w/ Bone Thugs?).

Severian 06.02.2015 05:52 PM

Wait, Three Six Mafia screamed "one-hit wonder" at the time of their first album? Meaning Mystic Stylez, the punishing, grimy, violent independent hardcore rap album from 1995?

I love that album, but I can't imagine it spawning anything resembling an actual hit. I wasn't into them, or any rap that wasn't from the 5 Burroughs back when the album was first released, so maybe I'm fuzzy on the detail. But... Jesus, please help me understand how that record produced a hit!

Fast forward a decade and yeah, they had some hits. Not to mention an Oscar win, which is even more impressive than Trent Reznor's.

I too love the End. Gotta be my favorite album by Three 6 as well.

Gotta love UGK and Juicy J killin' it on ALLA.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.02.2015 07:03 PM

My bad you anally retentive fuggs.. i meant first record that made noise.. here in LA we didn't hear bout these dudes until When The Smoke Clears.. their early shit is less bad but still not my thang

noisereductions 06.02.2015 07:09 PM

on the subject - the new Mafia 6ix album is really good. Even has Lord Infamous on it. No Gangsta Boo tho :(

Severian 06.02.2015 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
My bad you anally retentive fuggs.. i meant first record that made noise.. here in LA we didn't hear bout these dudes until When The Smoke Clears.. their early shit is less bad but still not my thang


I'm not being snarky, I really didn't know! I told you man, I was not into that kind of rap in '95, so I have no idea one way or another.

louder 06.03.2015 06:10 AM

listening to Shabazz Palaces. how cool is it that Ishmael from Digable Planets still remains a top notch artist 20 years later?

louder 06.03.2015 10:23 AM

new Denzel Curry album next week! here's a new track:

https://soundcloud.com/denzelcurryph...ptain-sea-fonk

he's gonna top Nostalgic 64 easily.

louder 06.03.2015 10:24 AM

this is gonna be a crazy month.

new Denzel, Pusha, Vince, Game, Migos, Miguel, Bilal.. possibly Wayne & who knows what else. shit.

louder 06.03.2015 01:35 PM

stream the new Wayne single here: http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/lil-wayn...g.1964799.html

damn, bars on bars on bars. dude has been on fire for a minute.

Severian 06.03.2015 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
listening to Shabazz Palaces. how cool is it that Ishmael from Digable Planets still remains a top notch artist 20 years later?


Dude, I know! I was all over Lese Majesty for a bit in 2014. Thought it might be a contender, at least for my top 10.

But I overdid it. Nobody else here was really into it and I lost interest after a while. I don't think I played it at all for the last few months of the year.

They are good though. In their adopted home of Seattle, WA, they're just friggin huge. I do sometimes get a bit irritated when people go on and on about how original they are. They definitely are extremely talented, and their records defy categorization, but I hear a lot of Anti-Pop Consortium influence in their music. And APC is an excellent and groundbreaking hip-hop group that has been overlooked and underrated by US audiences for the entirety of their career.

louder 06.03.2015 03:21 PM

i'll be honest, Lese Majesty doesn't do much for me yet.

Black Up is a classic though, up there with the best rap albums i've heard from this decade.

louder 06.03.2015 03:31 PM

 


have you guys heard this classic??

noisereductions 06.03.2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
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have you guys heard this classic??


I don't think I'd call it a classic. But damn good album.

Severian 06.04.2015 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
 


have you guys heard this classic??



Hell yeah!

After hearing Count Bass D's guest verses on Mm.. Food??, I dug into this album and really fucking loved it.

I would call it a classic, but it's kind of a relic from my backpacker era. I never expected anyone in the café to share my appreciation for it.

Another album that's like that is Beauty and the Beat by Edan. Really incredible, at the time it was probably my favorite hip-hop record. But Edan faded into obscurity and kinda stopped making music for some reason, which is sad. But anyone who's interested in trippy psychedelic genius level hip-hop should certainly spend some time listening to Edan's first two records.

Severian 06.04.2015 09:22 AM

Ok, Rocky's totally delivering a Kanye flow on "Back Home," especially the first verse. Seriously. Sounds good, like a trap Late Reg. cut.

Rob Instigator 06.04.2015 12:52 PM

How much do you guys think Niki Minaj gets paid for throw-away, phone-it-in (literally) "contributions" to shitty songs like this one?

Rae Smremmurd - Throw Some More
https://youtu.be/fwrY0D2ACNk

noisereductions 06.04.2015 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
How much do you guys think Niki Minaj gets paid for throw-away, phone-it-in (literally) "contributions" to shitty songs like this one?

Rae Smremmurd - Throw Some More
https://youtu.be/fwrY0D2ACNk


"So let me get this straight, wait, I'm the rookie?
But my features and my shows ten times your pay?
50K for a verse, no album out"

Rob Instigator 06.04.2015 03:34 PM

what a joke.

h8kurdt 06.04.2015 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
How much do you guys think Niki Minaj gets paid for throw-away, phone-it-in (literally) "contributions" to shitty songs like this one?

Rae Smremmurd - Throw Some More
https://youtu.be/fwrY0D2ACNk


Jesus. All the ranting that people make about rap being shit because of this and that is summed up right there in that song. And with that, I feel it makes it harder for people like Kendrick, Pharohe Monch etc. to get taken seriously and show that rap can be a force for good (cringe) and actually have a lot of interesting things to say.


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