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Bytor Peltor 01.09.2016 06:38 AM

I'm a big fan of, The Cure and I'll argue they have released better albums than The Rolling Stones. Don't get me wrong, Stones have released some unbelievable songs, but I like Thd Cure albums better......same for David Bowie, Elton John or Alice Cooper.

I noticed that Led Zepelin didn't make your Top 10.

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
No! Cure has never been greater than Stones. But itīs great anyway. And Wild Mood is not a bad album, it has some great moments. Also really liked Smithīs trilogy, Pornography, Disintegration & Bloodflowers.

Hereīs my top10 of the sixties bands, in order (nothing to do with the importance of the pop music, just how important they been to me):
1. Pink Floyd
2. the Who
3. Stones
4. the Jimi Hendrix Experience
5. Velvet
6. Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band
7. the Beatles
8. the Doors
9. Traffic
10. the Mothers of Invention

Uuh, as always, have to leave so many great bands out! But most of these have been into my life almost my whole life.


Screaming Skull 01.09.2016 07:08 AM

Incredible debate and no one's right or wrong! Love it! Noodle on this....I challenge someone to put up a BETTER 4-album run than this:

Begger's Banquet (1968)
Let It Bleed (1969)
Sticky Fingers (1971)
Exile On Main Street (1972)

4 in a row. What comes close? Can't wait to hear your thoughts!

evollove 01.09.2016 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
This is the craziest fucking thing you've ever posted. Herman's Hermits wipe the floor with the Airplane!


I love British Invasion bubblegum, but gimme a break. Even by that standard, they are not great, although "Can’t You Hear My Heartbeat" is a masterpiece. I'm not a Jefferson fan by any means, but c'mon man.

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
And Wild Mood is not a bad album, it has some great moments.


That's what I'm saying. The band's worst album is still half-good. That's how fucking great they are.

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
I'm a big fan of, The Cure


What's your take on THE TOP? I really like it, no one else seems to.


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Originally Posted by Screaming Skull
Begger's Banquet (1968)
Let It Bleed (1969)
Sticky Fingers (1971)
Exile On Main Street (1972)


I think Exile is way, way overrated, but I take your point.

STICKY strikes me as the summit of the entire band's career, and probably makes my TOP 10 EVER list if I'm the right mood.

You get gutsy, patented Stones rock ("Brown," "Bitch"), tips of the hat to r n' b ("Sway," "I Got the Blues"), pre-electric blues ("You Gotta Move"), a killer jam song ("Knocking"), their best ballad ("Wild Horses") and even a country tune ("Dead Flowers"). What else do you need?

Severian 01.09.2016 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Screaming Skull
Incredible debate and no one's right or wrong! Love it! Noodle on this....I challenge someone to put up a BETTER 4-album run than this:

Begger's Banquet (1968)
Let It Bleed (1969)
Sticky Fingers (1971)
Exile On Main Street (1972)

4 in a row. What comes close? Can't wait to hear your thoughts!


Let's see... Yeah, that's a pretty incredible run of albums, but I don't have to look far to find a better one...

Sonic Youth:
Bad Moon Rising ('85)
Evol ('86)
Sister ('87)
Daydream Nation ('88)

But maybe that goes without saying in these parts, so... how about:

Velvet Underground:
VU & Nico ('67)
White Light/White Hear ('68)
Velvet Underground ('69)
Loaded ('70)

Is that still just too obvious? Kinda seems like it could be. Well, everyone knows how I feel about the next one, but that's true of SY and the Velvets too, so fuck it.

Kanye West:
The College Dropout ('04)
Late Registration ('05)
Graduation ('07)
808's & Heartbreak ('08)
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy ('10)
Yeezus ('13)

Now I can't stop thinking of album runs that can at least compete with the famous Stones 69-72 output.

Aphex Twin:
Selected Ambient Works 85-92 (1992)
Selected Ambient Works volume II (1994)
... I Care Because You Do (1995)
Richard D. James Album (1996)
Drukqs (2001)
Syro (2014)

Fugazi:
Repeater (1990)
Steady Diet of Nothing (1991)
In on the Kill Taker (1993)
Red Medicine (1995)
End Hits (1998)
The Argument (2001)
*this is a perfect career run of studio albums right here.

Severian 01.09.2016 12:44 PM

Honestly I think the Cure's entire output up to 1992 can be chopped into competitive 4-album runs... or it can be taken as a straight shot that had some less than perfect moments, but not many.

Three Imaginary Boys (1979)
Seventeen Seconds (1980)
Faith (1981)
Pornography (1982)
The Top (1984) *remove this one if you're not into it and you still have two epic runs. If you leave it, then this is almost unprecedented.
The Head on the Door (1985)
Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me (1987)
Disintegration (1989)
Wish (1992)

Mortte Jousimo 01.09.2016 04:21 PM

xxx

Mortte Jousimo 01.09.2016 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
I'm a big fan of, The Cure and I'll argue they have released better albums than The Rolling Stones. Don't get me wrong, Stones have released some unbelievable songs, but I like Thd Cure albums better......same for David Bowie, Elton John or Alice Cooper.

I noticed that Led Zepelin didn't make your Top 10.

No, I like Zeppelin, but it isnīt my top10 of the sixties and not even seventies. And yes, Cure has made great albums, but as a band it just hasnīt made as great music as Stones...BTW Cure is coming to Finland and I have a ticket! And I am the one who really likes also their the Top-album, I think it is as great as Head on the door and lot better than Kiss Me.

Mortte Jousimo 01.09.2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Screaming Skull
Incredible debate and no one's right or wrong! Love it! Noodle on this....I challenge someone to put up a BETTER 4-album run than this:

Begger's Banquet (1968)
Let It Bleed (1969)
Sticky Fingers (1971)
Exile On Main Street (1972)

4 in a row. What comes close? Can't wait to hear your thoughts!

1. Beggars Banquet
2. Let It Bleed
3. Sticky Fingers
4. Between the Buttons

Pink Floyd:
1. Atom Heart Mother
2. the Piper at the Gates of Dawn
3. Saucerful of Secrets
4. the Dark Side of the Moon

Captain Beefheart:
1. Trout Mask Replica
2. Lick My Decals Off, Baby
3. Doc at the Radar Station
4. Ice Cream For Crow

Beatles:
1. Revolver
2. Sgt. Pepper
3. Abbey Road
4. the Beatles (white album)

the Who:
1. The Who Sell Out
2. Tommy
3. Whoīs Next
4. Quadrophenia

Mortte Jousimo 01.09.2016 04:37 PM

SY still:
1. Sister
2. EVOL
3. ATL
4. Washing Machine

Mortte Jousimo 01.09.2016 04:54 PM

xxx

evollove 01.09.2016 07:33 PM

Whoa. Just noticed Cure are going to tour this year. Nowhere near me, but Helsinki gets a show. That's some bullshit.

Severian 01.10.2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by evollove
Whoa. Just noticed Cure are going to tour this year. Nowhere near me, but Helsinki gets a show. That's some bullshit.


Shit. They don't appear to be coming near me either. Goddammit.

On the bright side it looks like they may be dropping two albums this year. I find that pretty hard to believe, but one would be just fine.

Mortte Jousimo 01.10.2016 03:00 PM

They havenīt been very often in Finland. Last time was 1996 & I wasnīt there (actually never seen them). I knew then theyīre coming, but I said to me ( a poor excuse) they werenīt as great anymore as they were in the begin of eighties. Then one of my friend who was there was a long time really pain in my ass telling how great that gig was. Finally I have a possibility to change that experience!

Sev, where you heard from those new albums? There was information in wiki in the beginning of 2015 about two albums (which is going to have material from 4:13 dream -sessions) but some months after that information was deleted.

Severian 01.10.2016 09:08 PM

I just searched Google for Cure tour dates 2016 and found a little write up on what they had planned for the year. Not sure if it's true or accurate.

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Mortte Jousimo 01.12.2016 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
1. Beggars Banquet
2. Let It Bleed
3. Sticky Fingers
4. Between the Buttons

Pink Floyd:
1. Atom Heart Mother
2. the Piper at the Gates of Dawn
3. Saucerful of Secrets
4. the Dark Side of the Moon

Captain Beefheart:
1. Trout Mask Replica
2. Lick My Decals Off, Baby
3. Doc at the Radar Station
4. Ice Cream For Crow

Beatles:
1. Revolver
2. Sgt. Pepper
3. Abbey Road
4. the Beatles (white album)

the Who:
1. The Who Sell Out
2. Tommy
3. Whoīs Next
4. Quadrophenia

Sorry, I didnīt understood this at first completely. But accidentely Beatles & Who went right.

But hereīs Pink Floyd & Captain again and some more:
1. Piper at the Gates of Dawn (1967)
2. a Saucerful of Secrets (1968)
3. More (1969)
4. Ummagumma (1969)

1. Safe as Milk (1967)
2. Strictly Personal (1968)
3. Trout Mask Replica (1969)
4. Lick My Decals (1970)

David Bowie:
1. David Bowie (1969)
2. the Man Who sold the world (1970)
3. Hunky Dory (1971)
4. the Rise and Fall of Ziggy (1972)

Traffic:
1. Mr. Fantasy (1967)
2. Traffic (1968)
3. Last Exit (1969)
4. John Barcleycorn Must Die (1970)

Family:
1. Music In a Dollīs House (1968)
2. Family Entertainment (1969)
3. a Song For Me (1970)
4. Anyway (1970)

Yes:
1. Time and a word (1970)
2. the Yes album (1971)
3. Fragile (1971)
4. Close to the Edge (1972)

King Crimson:
1. Larkīs Tongues In Aspic (1973)
2. Starless and Bible Black (1974)
3. Red (1974)
4. USA (1975)

Genesis:
1. Foxtrot (1972)
2. Live (1973)
3. Selling England Byt the Pound (1973)
4. the Lamb lies Down on Broadway (1974)

Did you noticed how much great albums has made near the change of decade? Only exceptions are King Crimson & Genesis, I didnīt put King Crimsonīs great first albums just because I think Islands is their weakest seventies album, but it isnīt really a bad album at all too!

Severian 01.13.2016 06:20 PM

"Close to Me" ... Almost definitely. That. Is. My. Jam. Also love "Plainsong" because it's so ridiculously pretty it kinda makes my guts ache when I hear it.

But really, you can't go wrong with anything they put out in the '80s. It's just great stuff.

The Soup Nazi 01.13.2016 07:51 PM

You chauvinist pigs.

Laura Nyro
Eli And The Thirteenth Confession
New York Tendaberry
Christmas And The Beads Of Sweat
Gonna Take A Miracle


Nico
Chelsea Girl
The Marble Index
Desertshore
The End...


OK, so Chelsea Girl is comprised of covers and Tom Wilson flute-bombed it, but stop thinking about what could have been and what you have is a classic anyway. Certainly better than a bunch of overpraised "baroque pop" albums.

Joni Mitchell
Ladies Of The Canyon
Blue
For The Roses
Court And Spark


That's just the conventional wisdom. As far as I'm concerned you can slide the four-album window anyway you want from Song To A Seagull to Hejira.

Kate Bush
Never For Ever
The Dreaming
Hounds Of Love
The Sensual World


Sharon Van Etten
Because I Was In Love
epic
Tramp
Are We There


Joanna Newsom
The Milk-Eyed Mender
Ys
Have One On Me
Divers


Julia Holter
Tragedy
Ekstasis
Loud City Song
Have You In My Wilderness


Lucinda Williams

Happy Woman Blues
Lucinda Williams
Sweet Old World
Car Wheels On A Gravel Road


Or, again, slide the window to include Essence, World Without Tears, West...

PJ Harvey
Shit, choose any four consecutive albums you want.

Sleater-Kinney
See above.

Severian 01.13.2016 10:14 PM

I agree on Newsom, Sharon Von Etten and (obviously) PJ Harvey. Bjork has had a pretty much flawless career as well, even though she's not one of my personal favorites. Also ditto Sleater-Kinney. Duh. Can't believe I forgot them, actually. They're like the female equivalent of Fugazi (in more ways than one), and Fugazi is basically my gold standard for career album output quality (I don't think that band ever struck so much as a single imperfect note. They didn't have quite the highs of Sonic Youth, but their career average is probably higher.)

Back to dicks:

Every Unwound album. Split it up however you want to. No need to stick to four. They're almost in Fugazi territory.

Flaming Lips:
Clouds Taste Metallic
Zaireeka
The Soft Bulletin
Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

Spiritualized:
Lazer-Guided Melodies
Pure Phase
Ladies and Gentlemen we are Floating in Space
Let it Come Down

Man I'm bored now. Talking about shit I haven't listened to in forever.

Mortte Jousimo 01.14.2016 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
You chauvinist pigs.


Nico
Chelsea Girl
The Marble Index
Desertshore
The End...




Absolutely agree this! Chelsea Girl is just so great, even there arenīt much Nico originals.

My Bush:
the Kick Inside
Lionheart
Never Forever
Dreaming

My PJ
to Bring You my love
Dance Hall at the Louse Point
Is this Desire
Stories from the City


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