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No offense man. I really like the first Foos album. I really like "My Hero" (a lot), but their last 18 years of material just doesn't do a thing for me.
I'm glad Dave Grohl has a beard and helped get Ringo Afterthought Starr into the R&R hall of fame by calling a meeting of the rock and pop illuminati and floating the idea by Springsteen and whatnot, but I feel nothing when I hear his music post 1997/8. |
I did really like white stripes too, yeah
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Its all good, no offense taken. Just a fact. I hear Foos And always enjoy it. Its never groundbreaking. Just consistntly good to me.
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I still think White Blood Cells is my fav.
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I am not sure do I understand correct, but are here Primus haters? I am not a big fan, but really used to listen a lot their "Tales from the Punch Bowl" and liked it! Not listen it a long time, maybe should... About White Stripes, I have said this many times earlier, but White Stripes has always been to me poor manīs JSBX. I havenīt heard proper album from them, yes they have some really good songs. |
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Yes. As far as I can tell, what separates a Ween lover and a Ween hater is whether or not the listener finds them funny. Personally I find them as funny as a wacky morning radio zoo crew. Quote:
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That's not their kind of humor though. It's not whoopy coushion shit. It's not "zany" ... They're not They Might Be Giants. Their songs would never work as an opening theme to Malcolm in the Middle. It's a much more cultish, dark humor. It's rooted a bit in the literary tradition of the Grotesque, in my opinion. Mervyn Peak's Gormenghast trilogy and its accompanying artwork, is a cultural starting point for a lot of Ween's imagery. Like, check out this illustration: ![]() Has fuckall to do with Ween, and yet... This totally feels like Ween to me. Like, down to the smallest detail. "The Blarney Stone" is a good example of what I'm getting at... Is it cheap laughs and fart sounds? Not at all. It's a roaring pirate pub chant sung in a reverent Irish accent... Is that inherently funny? Is it "comedy"? No. But there's something about the song that makes me dumb ass smile. And if you love Ween these lyrics might inspire you to sing along in your loudest, crudest voice. It's not really that it's funny, it's more that it's awesome in the way things are awesome to a child. Get off my ass you wee bitty fuck if I pull out the claymore you're shit outta luck who's that girl, that pretty young thing after I fuck her she'll get up and sing Aye Aye Aye sharpen your boot, and bludgeon your eye Aye Aye Aye the Blarney Stone brings a tear to me eye down to the pub for a two shilling ale the bread on the counter is going stale if I don't get some fresh bread soon gonna punch you in your face and bark at the moon Aye Aye Aye sharpen your boot, and bludgeon your eye Aye Aye Aye the Blarney Stone brings a tear to me eye Aint got no girl 'cuz I haven't the time got too many other things on me mind Patty was nice she was pale and cute but I threw her away like an old piece of fruit Aye Aye Aye sharpen your boot, and bludgeon your eye Aye Aye Aye the Blarney Stone brings a tear to me eye got ooze in my pores my feet are all wet got mold in my ears but I ain't dead yet got stones in me bladder got a crack in me head when Patty starts cryin' this is what I said Aye Aye Aye sharpen your boot, and bludgeon your eye Aye Aye Aye the Blarney Stone brings a tear to me eye That shit is just weird. Not deliberate and hokey like tag team radio "Weenie and the Butt" clichés. |
But all this "funny or not funny" crap really neglects the main point of what I was trying to say earlier: Ween's music is almost objectively good. Every genre they play with, they nail it, and then bend it and twist it all to hell. I don't put on Ween when I want to laugh. I don't listen to comedy records, and I loathe gimmicky comedy bands. I listen to Ween when my brain can handle the overload of expertly crafted, schizophrenic music that is written with all the texture and care of a Lennon/Mccartney joint, no matter how ugly it may get, or how odd it might sound.
Bottom line: they're not a goddamn joke band. No more than Sebadoh (who I once saw them open for), or the Flaming Lips, or blah blah. Nobody likes joke bands. I think people would have an easier time with Ween if they stopped focusing on that massive misconception. |
I appriciate the effort but:
1- Seems simply juvinile, dark streak or no 2- I really hate that guy. His name was Pete. For a second I considered putting on Choc and Cheese. But then I saw his face in my mind. Couldn't do it. 3- You really don't get how someone could not like them? Off all the bands to use the word "objectively" about, you're going to pick this one? Heck, not everyone likes the Beatles. ---- Meanwhile, listening to the new PIL. I guess PIL wouldn't be PIL if they didn't disappoint now and then. This isn't as good as THIS IS PIL, which I still love for the most part. |
I like joke bands, IF THEY ARE FUNNY!
There are 3 LP's of Dead Milkmen that I love right up there with anything. TMBG I love too, and are NOT a joke band. They were more DIY and "punk" than most, and have paid their dues for DECADES. Ween is not a joke band either, I just do not find their music interesting. |
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I got the Gormenghast Trilogy lined up to review for my blog. |
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^ Saw him live shortly after this was released. Yes, you may envy me.
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Ah, good good! What's your blog then? |
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I get how people could not like them, and the objectivity comment was really directed at their musical ability. They're excellent musicians. But if you don't like them you don't like them. At least it seems like you've given them a fair shot, and that's the most anyone can really ask for |
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If I had heard Ween in the nineties, my opinion could of course be different. On the other hand I think it might not, because I think I am the only one here who thinks SY hasnīt made anything really special and new, but I anyway love it and itīs my favourite band. |
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