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Skuj 04.12.2020 04:34 PM

I love swimming, but Covid has showed me how utterly reliant I am on pool availability. That really bothers me.

nicfit 04.12.2020 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
a question for i fratelli d'italia:

if you have pomodori col tonno, as a sauce i mean, with cipolla, do you add parmigiano, or is it a crime because fish?

imma put some on it. i would think romano perhaps better but i have none. sue me if you must. i saw you eat pizza col tonno once. plus there's burro in it. plus i'm using every ingredient in the house :D #quarantine

ps- but please enlighten me. if not now, when?


Usually, adding cheese to fish is a bad idea. Tuna can “work” with cheese, google “pasta alla carlofortina” some pecorino sardo does wonders in there.
I’d avoid burro, unless you do just a little burro + tonno. I used to eat it when I was a young kid. Now I think a little olive oil is the way to go, if the tuna isn’t already sott’olio.

!@#$%! 04.12.2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nicfit
Usually, adding cheese to fish is a bad idea. Tuna can “work” with cheese, google “pasta alla carlofortina” some pecorino sardo does wonders in there.
I’d avoid burro, unless you do just a little burro + tonno. I used to eat it when I was a young kid. Now I think a little olive oil is the way to go, if the tuna isn’t already sott’olio.

ah! molte grazie.

you know what? the parmigiano kinda worked atually, but i ruined it all by adding also capperi (facepalm). overshot & suffered the consequences--but discovery requires experimentation (hail hydra?)

still thinking of tuna + capers in a different mix.

the burro is part of the sauce already. not sure if you've ever heard of marcella hazan, one of your best exports? (she was a scientist who ended up in new york, became a cooking teacher.) her famous sauce was supersimple, and i made it in bulk because i had to dispatch some onions before they croaked. so i was just recombining it to make the tonno più interessante (the sauce itself needs nothing but our tonno ain't the greatest. and comes in water).

CARLOFORTINA. i will look for it. pecorino sardo is out of the question but... one can dream!

covid note: i actually ordered the infamous kraft cheese in a jar, the one that comes mixed with cellulose, to avoid going to the supermarket (one must make sacrifices these days). it's a mix of parmesan, pecorino and asiago. american monstrosity! still one has to make the best of it ha ha ha.

future tonno will be with olive oil. i would have used alio e prezzemolo but i don't have any (will grow this season though).

please keep the great ideas coming, even if impossible to make, because cooking with disjointed elements is the new black.

The Soup Nazi 04.12.2020 11:19 PM

Alright alright alright, maybe it wasn't a COMPLETE fantasy after all...

Fauci confirms New York Times report Trump rebuffed social distancing advice
Health adviser says on CNN 'you could logically say if you started mitigation earlier, you could have saved lives'


...and here we go, bound to happen:

Trump Lashes Out at Fauci Amid Criticism of Slow Virus Response
The president retweeted a post calling for the government’s top infectious disease specialist to be fired after the doctor acknowledged that shutting down the country earlier could have saved lives.


Chickenshit fuckhead didn't even have the guts to say it himself - he retweeted a #FireFauci tweet. Good LAWD I wish God existed, so Satan could exist, so Dotard could be fucked in the asshole for all eternity.

choc e-Claire 04.12.2020 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
so Dotard could be fucked in the asshole for all eternity.

I thought you wanted him to go to Hell? ;)

!@#$%! 04.12.2020 11:30 PM

https://www.gnamgnam.it/2014/08/11/p...rlofortina.htm

 


he’s swedish but he speaks for humanity

!@#$%! 04.13.2020 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel
^Just go to the shop ye' muppet

uno más

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...h-coronavirus/

The Soup Nazi 04.13.2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!


My mother dumps everything she buys at the supermarket into the kitchen sink and washes every damn bottle, bag and package - doesn't matter if it's cardboard or whatever, it shall be washed.

!@#$%! 04.13.2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
My mother dumps everything she buys at the supermarket into the kitchen sink and washes every damn bottle, bag and package - doesn't matter if it's cardboard or whatever, it shall be washed.

that's good and everyone should do that, but it's the workers who are getting reamed by the throngs of careless visitors.

for me shipping is marginally better because it minimizes contact networks. i.e. the shippers and loaders and delivery drivers do not need to interact with the public and can remain safer in a more or less linear system where as supermarket registers are infection nodes especially at the conveyor belt.

i understand shipped groceries are not available to everyone but if i can help starve the virus on my end then that's a small something.

when this shit is finally over i am going to eat 12 fresh eggs a day and every piece of produce that spoils fast on the side.

The Soup Nazi 04.13.2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
that's good and everyone should do that, but it's the workers who are getting reamed by the throngs of careless visitors.


Indeed. Not to mention that many of the employers don't give two shits about creating the conditions for workers to maintain social distancing or even wear clean masks, clean gloves, and have disinfectant (hand sanitizer, etc.) available at all times.

Gotta love capitalism let loose. :mad:

The Soup Nazi 04.13.2020 11:47 AM

From The Washington Post:

How false hope spread about hydroxychloroquine to treat covid-19 — and the consequences that followed
The Fact Checker team gives President Trump Four Pinocchios for seizing on Internet speculation to promote a drug of unproven merit in combating covid-19.

EDIT - to Schunk:

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"What do you have to lose? I'll say it again: What do you have to lose? Take it. I really think they should take it."

Trump, at a White House news briefing, April 4

What do I have to lose? How about MY LIFE, motherfucker.
:fuckyou::fuckyou::fuckyou::fuckyou:

tw2113 04.13.2020 12:05 PM

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Meanwhile, for me locally: https://www.argusleader.com/story/ne...ls/2981612001/

tw2113 04.14.2020 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
The Rhode Island State Police have compiled crime statistics indicating that there has been a 30% increase in domestic violence incidents here since the Coronavirus lockdown began. Has this phenomenon been observed in your own areas?



I've heard similar stats happen during the "gather the family at home" holidays too. Biggest difference here is that we don't know how long this recommendation is going to last. We know when holidays end.

choc e-Claire 04.14.2020 07:13 PM

First lesson of the term for online schooling - look how my Physics teacher tests his webcam:
 

The Soup Nazi 04.14.2020 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
The Rhode Island State Police have compiled crime statistics indicating that there has been a 30% increase in domestic violence incidents here since the Coronavirus lockdown began.


Not surprising at all: violent piece-of-shit husbands now have more time and proximity to beat up their wives. It is ironic, though, that the police compiled the data, because according to the National Center For Women & Policing,

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Two studies have found that at least 40% of police officer families experience domestic violence, in contrast to 10% of families in the general population. A third study of older and more experienced officers found a rate of 24%, indicating that domestic violence is 2-4 times more common among police families than American families in general. A police department that has domestic violence offenders among its ranks will not effectively serve and protect victims in the community. Moreover, when officers know of domestic violence committed by their colleagues and seek to protect them by covering it up, they expose the department to civil liability.

Sources and details: http://womenandpolicing.com/violenceFS.asp

Skuj 04.14.2020 09:11 PM

My mother has it. She is 88, in a nursing home in Ajax, Ontario, Canada. Go figure!!

The Soup Nazi 04.14.2020 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
My mother has it. She is 88, in a nursing home in Ajax, Ontario, Canada. Go figure!!


FUCK! Oh man, I wish her all the best. :(

Skuj 04.14.2020 09:32 PM

Thanks Dude. Ironically, at this time, she shows no symptoms. I expect this will change.

The Soup Nazi 04.14.2020 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Thanks Dude. Ironically, at this time, she shows no symptoms. I expect this will change.


Well, I hope NOT!

Skuj 04.14.2020 09:45 PM

Two headlines grabbed me today:

1. USA has most reported Covid deaths in a day.

2. USA halts WHO funding.

Trumpists, please, help me out here. I've unignored everyone. It's too confusing otherwise. Reconcile these headlines for me. Thanks.

The Soup Nazi 04.15.2020 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
The Rhode Island State Police have compiled crime statistics indicating that there has been a 30% increase in domestic violence incidents here since the Coronavirus lockdown began. Has this phenomenon been observed in your own areas?


Wait - you posted this nugget as a way of arguing for lifting the quarantine, as your dear leader wants, didn't you? You are one sick fuck, you FUCKING ASSHOLE.

The Soup Nazi 04.15.2020 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Two headlines grabbed me today:

1. USA has most reported Covid deaths in a day.

2. USA halts WHO funding.

Trumpists, please, help me out here. I've unignored everyone. It's too confusing otherwise. Reconcile these headlines for me. Thanks.


Not gonna happen without an irrational bullshit spin, so why challenge them. We hear enough lies already.

The Bannon/Dotard "doctrine" :rolleyes: was sold specifically as anti-multilateral free trade agreements, but it's far more scattershot - it involves the annihilation of every single multilateral organization or accord on Earth, no matter how necessary and benefitial to humankind. The World Health Organization is the latest victim in a hit list that included the JCPOA and the Paris Agreement. Defunding it in the middle of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic truly is tantamount to a crime against humanity.

 

g. 04.15.2020 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
My mother has it. She is 88, in a nursing home in Ajax, Ontario, Canada. Go figure!!


So sorry to hear this. I hope she is well soon. Stay strong.

nicfit 04.15.2020 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Two headlines grabbed me today:

1. USA has most reported Covid deaths in a day.

2. USA halts WHO funding.

Trumpists, please, help me out here. I've unignored everyone. It's too confusing otherwise. Reconcile these headlines for me. Thanks.


To put it in the simplest possible way, Trumpo says the WHO covered up the severity of the contagion early on.

There are many asymptomatic positive cases that just “stay” asymptomatic, I surely hope your mom will be amongst them.

Not gonna lie, nursing homes have been a bit of a mess here in Italy, but I’m confident the lesson has been learned in “civilized countries” as Canada.

The Soup Nazi 04.15.2020 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nicfit
To put it in the simplest possible way, Trumpo says the WHO covered up the severity of the contagion early on.


Don't mess with them.

 


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[...] a bit of a mess here in Italy [...]

There's nothing hilarious about this. And yet, those videos by Italian members of parliament telling their constituents OH, NOW YOU FUCKERS ARE ALL MARATHON RUNNERS, ARENTCHA, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU STAY THE MOTHER-FUCK INSIDE were pretty hilarious.

!@#$%! 04.15.2020 10:00 AM

3 drunkle bob messages in a row

he must have found a sterno suppy

why are you guys enabling that sorry bum?

!@#$%! 04.15.2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
My mother has it. She is 88, in a nursing home in Ajax, Ontario, Canada. Go figure!!

what da... skuj!

i am so sorry. just read, and fingers crossed for no symptoms to remain that way.

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Originally Posted by tw2113


this is criminal. take cover.

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
First lesson of the term for online schooling - look how my Physics teacher tests his webcam:
 


that’s good learnin’

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Originally Posted by nicfit
To put it in the simplest possible way, Trumpo says the WHO covered up the severity of the contagion early on.

he’s just trying to cover up his own incompetence by blaming someone else as usual, but more on that in his sewer of a thread

!@#$%! 04.15.2020 07:28 PM

holy molly those chess pieces!

sorry not buying lmao

Skuj 04.15.2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
holy molly those chess pieces!

sorry not buying lmao


Msg deleted. I rethunk some things. :)

h8kurdt 04.16.2020 03:57 AM

Michigan knuckledraggers defy stay at home order

Give it three weeks and we'll see the death rates rocket there. Fuck em. Let me drown.

I'm more bothered about the innocent family members and members of the public they could potentially infect and kill from their stupidity.

choc e-Claire 04.16.2020 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
May the Lord's will be done!

Ideally to you, and 62,984,827 specific other people, before November 3.

choc e-Claire 04.16.2020 04:53 AM

obvious joke is obvious and yet somehow not noticed?

h8kurdt 04.16.2020 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
This does, of course, mean, that a certain number of casualties must be accepted. As I, myself, am 62 years old, and a smoker, I must be willing to accept that I, myself, may become a casualty. .

May the Lord's will be done!


Not sure you'd be thinking that same thing whilst desperately trying to get those last breaths of air into your already collapsed lungs in a miserable hospital bed on your own because no family are allowed to be anywhere near you as it happens.

But y'know, if you wanna jump head first into getting it then by all means do. "If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

GravitySlips 04.16.2020 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
May the Lord's will be done!


And the Lord said: "Let there be a virus that kills many people, infects millions, and decimates the economy"

Thanks "Lord" ;)

demonrail666 04.16.2020 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
If done wisely, the brutal balance between the contagion and the economy can be struck, in a manner acceptable to precisely noone.!


That's the challenge for all governments. You're right, these lockdown measures simply can't go on for months but what politician will be prepared to make the decision to lift them, knowing it'll likely cause a spike in the death-toll and, as a result, almost inevitably see them being portrayed as having blood on their hands? It'd be an act of political suicide even if, long term, it was the right thing to do for the sake of the country as a whole. These are the very kinds of decisions where you see the shortcomings of a democratic style of government based on short-term popularity, compared with totalitarian ones that have no such need for popular approval. Needless to say, I'm not generally in favour of totalitarian governments but this is the very kinds of scenario where they definitely have an advantage.

_tunic_ 04.16.2020 10:16 AM

Translation of a Dutch newspaper article:
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In Bogotá, men and women are allowed to take to the streets every other day, transgender people can choose

By separating men and women, the mayor of the Colombian capital Bogotá hopes to maintain quarantine better. The plan looks sympathetic, but was immediately criticized.

Residents of Bogotá are only allowed to take to the streets for groceries or to go to the bank. Image EPA
The quirky capital of Colombia has its own quarantine rule from Monday. Women are only allowed out in Bogotá on the even days, men only on the odd days. Claudia López, the city's first woman mayor and the first lesbian mayor in Latin America, presented the new measures on Thursday. Trans persons have also been considered: they can choose based on the gender with which they identify themselves.


López calls the line "pico y genero" (peak and gender), a nod to "pico y placa" (peak and plate), a number plate rotation system for cars. The measure does not mean that men and women are completely free to move around on their days. They are only allowed to take to the streets for groceries or to go to the bank. The police are going to enforce strict, López promised, who goes out on the wrong day can be fined a million pesos, about 230 euros.

Colombia now has more than 2,400 registered infections and eighty corona deaths. The capital has been hit hardest with almost half of the infections. The mayor hopes to be able to maintain quarantine better by separating men and women.

López 'plan looks sympathetic, but was immediately criticized. In other parts of the country, the measure "pico y cedula" applies, people can only go out once every five days based on the last two digits of their identity card. Elsewhere, quarantine seems stricter than in Bogotá, while the capital has the most infections. The mayor defended the plan, saying that sex is easier to verify than IDs.

The transgender exception has been both ridiculed and criticized in recent days. Among male social media users, the videos of men with wigs are especially popular: on even days with, on odd days without. Transgender people warn that the well-intentioned exception poses great risks for them.

"Who is going to enforce the rule? The police. In other words, the unit that has been using violence against trans persons for years, "reporters of La Disidencia, a section on sexual diversity from the newspaper El Espectador. Transgender people are most often victims of police brutality in Bogotá, the journalists say in a video with five reasons why the rule turns out badly. Among other things, the risk of intimidation and unjustified fines, but also: "What about the people who do not identify with either sex? The measure denies their existence. "

!@#$%! 04.16.2020 11:47 AM

three more weeks uk lockdown

@tunic: it’s a great easy way to cut population density in half each day

tw2113 04.16.2020 12:21 PM

https://www.argusleader.com/story/ne...us/5138372002/


Joy. The city I'm in is #1

h8kurdt 04.16.2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
three more weeks uk lockdown

@tunic: it’s a great easy way to cut population density in half each day


I'm getting a lot of reading and classic WrestleMania watching done so im fine with it for now!

The Soup Nazi 04.16.2020 08:25 PM

From Zakaria's Global Briefing:

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Lockdown Exit Strategy: ‘Suppress and Lift’

What might an exit from lockdowns look like? In Science, Kai Kupferschmidt writes that it will likely involve the “‘suppress and lift’ strategy that both Singapore and Hong Kong are pursuing,” modulating social-distancing policies as the rate of Covid-19’s spread rises and falls.

“The number to watch in the next phase may no longer be the actual number of cases per day, but what epidemiologists call the effective reproduction number, or R, which denotes how many people the average infected person infects in turn. If R is above 1, the outbreak grows; below 1 it shrinks,” Kupferschmidt writes. “To regulate R, ‘Governments will have to realize that there are basically three control knobs on the dashboard,’ says Gabriel Leung, a modeler at the University of Hong Kong: isolating patients and tracing their contacts, border restrictions, and social distancing.” Countries are at various stages of progress: Austria (which has begun to reopen) has brought that figure below one, the UK and Germany have approached it, and Singapore has fluctuated above and below it.

There’s also the question of immunity. We don’t know much about how Covid-19 immunity works, and the UK lost valuable time by considering a “herd immunity” strategy, Kupferschmidt writes, but “some scientists say other countries should consider it once the strain that the first wave of cases has put on their health care systems eases.” Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, tells him: “Is it better to have a controlled burn in younger populations right now than it is to prevent it? I think that’s a very important conversation to have.”

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A Trade War Over Medical Gear?

President Trump has faced backlash over his move, announced last week and solidified in a presidential memorandum last Friday, to limit the exports of protective equipment needed by health workers treating patients for Covid-19. Criticism may not be the end of it, writes Chad Brown of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, predicting US trading partners could retaliate.

“Today, foreign governments could also cut off American access to other PPE, such as face shields, goggles, and hospital gowns, as well as ventilators, catheters, X-ray equipment, or CT scanners,” Brown writes. “Also imperiled are foreign-produced inputs that American manufacturing plants require to make the hospital gear in the first place. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has even warned the administration that its policy could provoke retaliation, noting that ‘the United States also receives essential supplies and products’ from Canada.” US doctors and nurses rely on imports from Canada and Mexico “for the medical headwear, sanitizer, face shields, and protective garments that are in short supply. All of these could be cut off as retaliation,” Brown writes.

The US isn’t the only country putting up export restrictions—European countries have enacted similar limits—but Brown writes that “[t]o paraphrase President Trump, trade wars in medical gear are easy to lose. The human costs could be devastating.”


More from the Briefing:
—Testing and Tracing: Are Apps the Answer?
—The Indian State That Squashed the Curve
—Cold Water on the Models
—What Does Trump Prove About the Presidency?

https://view.newsletters.cnn.com/mes...676f18a089/raw


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