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auto-aim 03.14.2007 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_buzzo
okay you gotta boost the muff with another pedal to get wall of sound.

a fender blender is a nice solution, some people say that its really a noise motherfucker, you certanly need a boost infront for more sustain.

what kinda specific sound?

what settings are on your muff?


I'm definatly looking for a more noisy sound but kind of like a dino jr thing. - another thing is i want to be able to do switch between lead and rhythm playing sometimes but without fiddling with a volume pedal or totally fucking everything up so would a blender help with that?
and the setting on my muff are normally, i think, volume all the way up and sustain pretty much the same and then the tone around the 12 o clock(probably a bit more like 3) point.

king_buzzo 03.14.2007 04:05 PM

j's distortion/fuzz pedals are:
vintage muff
vintage muff
superfuzz
germania treble boost
bluebox

j's sound is basically a muff with softer settings and another muff with all knobs of full, then he uses a univox superfuzz or the germania to boost solos and such.

heres an interview http://www.freesofree.net/digging_up_bones/

and heres a quote from a person who managed to re-create his tone

Quote:

I think i've finally figured out the mystery to j's fuzz. You first need an american big muff with the sustain and volume at 10 and the tone at about 1 o'clock and a superfuzz coming after it set on the treblier fuzz and have that cranked to 10. to get the wah sound he has i use a vox wah and put it after the muff and the fuzz and run a russian big muff that has everything on 10. Also the key is to use a decent tube amp with the reverb cranked to 10 and you should have "j's tone"

thats his try.

there was also talk that he had a custom made box to drop the volume of his muff by 50%

auto-aim 03.14.2007 08:02 PM

I think i'm going to check out that fender blender reading up on it now. The sustain is really important to me so it appeals and if i can make a mess with it too.
Thanks for the mascis info too!

CHOUT 03.15.2007 02:39 AM

Big Muffs are known for their sustain and 'wall of sound'ness...which one do you have?

Another option is running a compressor before your fuzz...that will add sustain and you can also use it as a boost. I've done it and it works...got a compressor right here waiting to be built...

CHOUT 03.15.2007 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by auto-aim
I think i'm going to check out that fender blender reading up on it now. The sustain is really important to me so it appeals and if i can make a mess with it too.
Thanks for the mascis info too!

Remember that the Fender Blender is an OCTAVE (up) fuzz - it sounds horrible with most chords, and you cant turn the octave sound off. Speaking from the experience of having one, I wouldn't say it's what you are looking for...and a Danelectro French Toast is a similar and better sounding octave fuzz to my ears for way cheaper than the Fender Blender.

king_buzzo 03.15.2007 09:07 AM

i dont like the french toast. its kinda standard soundish.

CHOUT 03.15.2007 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_buzzo
i dont like the french toast. its kinda standard soundish.

Have you ever played one, or are you just going by other people's opinions? Standard?

king_buzzo 03.15.2007 01:23 PM

sound clips. its not the sound i like. high gain fuzz pwns, like superfuzz. amazing

king_buzzo 03.15.2007 02:55 PM

hahaah

 

scott v 03.15.2007 06:27 PM

i prefer the Dunlop Hendrix Octave fuzz over the danelectro frnech toast, though you can turn off the octave if you want and keep the drive, and for the price its actually really good, the Hendrix Octave fuzz is at least twice as much as a french toast.

CHOUT 03.15.2007 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott v
i prefer the Dunlop Hendrix Octave fuzz over the danelectro frnech toast, though you can turn off the octave if you want and keep the drive, and for the price its actually really good, the Hendrix Octave fuzz is at least twice as much as a french toast.

Never played one, but I've played a few other octave fuzz pedals and some of them sound too tame compared to the FT. I'll have to check one out.

king_buzzo 03.16.2007 06:26 AM

heres some clips of the blender
http://www.gearwire.com/fender-blender-stompbox.html
http://www.musictoyz.com/network/xst...fenderBlender5

king_buzzo 03.18.2007 04:06 AM

bumpo this thread seriously needs to live.

king_buzzo 03.18.2007 10:08 AM

bump

ondskan 03.18.2007 10:28 AM

My Vox Tonelab SE:
 


I'm so ashamed, this is the only effect/pedal i have for my guitars, and even worse it's a multieffect. But it's more than nothing, and to make noise with it's kinda fun.
Though i must say that the wah-wah really sucks. There is absolutley no depth in the sound and it just sounds lame. I'm thinking about buying the Zakk Wylde signature CryBaby. Any advices or suggestions?

demonrail666 03.18.2007 10:39 AM

I'm looking for something to stick either behind or in front of my Rat. I'm looking for something that easily generates a lot of harsh Wolf Eyes, Pussy Galore style feedback between playing. My old Thrashmaster used to be ideal for that kind of thing, but it broke and Dodd have since stopped making them.

king_buzzo 03.18.2007 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondskan
My Vox Tonelab SE:


 


I'm so ashamed, this is the only effect/pedal i have for my guitars, and even worse it's a multieffect. But it's more than nothing, and to make noise with it's kinda fun.
Though i must say that the wah-wah really sucks. There is absolutley no depth in the sound and it just sounds lame. I'm thinking about buying the Zakk Wylde signature CryBaby. Any advices or suggestions?


very nice, played it once, its sounds very good for a multieffect. very very realistic sounds.

anyways i wouldnt spend the money on the zakk wylde crybaby, i'd either choose a vox wah or a budda wah. theyre really cool .

king_buzzo 03.18.2007 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
I'm looking for something to stick either behind or in front of my Rat. I'm looking for something that easily generates a lot of harsh Wolf Eyes, Pussy Galore style feedback between playing. My old Thrashmaster used to be ideal for that kind of thing, but it broke and Dodd have since stopped making them.


a boost maybe?

demonrail666 03.18.2007 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_buzzo
a boost maybe?


Any that you can recommend?

king_buzzo 03.18.2007 11:38 AM

the Electro Harmonix LPB-1
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...er-?sku=150092

Catalin Bread Super Chili Boost
http://montreal.craigslist.org/msg/295291895.html

The Germania boost
http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/HBGM1.htm

MXR Micro Amp
http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/HBGM1.htm


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