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but he was at the state department not DOD. rumsfeld had the DOD and he -manufactured the objectives -fielded insufficient force that made it impossible to pacify the country -had the idea of a perpetual colony in iraq. look at the embassy they built. once the war is on, of course everyone has to "support the troops" but powell was fed bullshit and had massive disagreements with the rumsfeld camp that are well documented |
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I do not think so. Russia would welcome warm relations with US. it is a smoke screen sold by mainstream media that Russia is "laughing". yeah, geopolitical tensions are tense and complex I agree, especially while NATO is expanding and military bases are being build all around. it is just that Russia wont submit to let "America in" since Putin is president just want to be sovereign nation and obviously America doesn't like it and that goes for any other nation in the world who wants to be sovereign. it is like automaticly you are becoming an enemy to States. and that Krimea, it was always Russian and also most of the people living there are russians. there was referendum which followed a parliamentary vote in which 78 out of 100 of Crimea's parliamentarians voted in favour of Crimea seceding from Ukraine. |
you work for RT or nah?
Russia has conflicting economic and political interests with US in AT LEAST two dozen nations. Russia doent want "warm relations" with US, Russia is not the kind of government or society that gives any fucks about feelings. Russia and Russians care about their bottom line, and Americanvbottom line is in conflict with Russia in many ways. oh yeah, if Ukrainians wanted annexation why all the dead people? |
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Incidentally, on that first official meeting, HRC gave Sergei Lavrov a "reset button" (kinda like those "alarm buttons" or "nuclear attack" buttons you see in cartoons) to symbolize the start of a new era (didn't happen, I know). The button had the word "reset" in English and Russian... ![]() ...except somebody at the State Department fucked up: "peregruzka" actually means "overcharge". Lavrov told Hillary, but they both pressed the button anyway. So no whining now, Russia! :D |
Incidentally, Episode II: While researching the anecdote above, check out what Google suggested for "hillary":
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rumsfeld stood in front of the press and said "la la la its not happening the looting is not happening the violence is not happening i havent seen it" noone called him on it. this is because jean baudrillard is a post modern solipsist and we anglo americans believe in EMPIRICAL REALITY unlike the goddamn french. speaking of which who said that iraq would turn into isisland? oh yes another goddamn reality denying frenchman. and who stood in front of the twin towers in the 70's and said the only force capable of defeating them was islam? yeah same FRENCH guy. thank the AMERIKAN god for the baghdad mcdonalds and milton friedman statue that rumsfeld PROMISED AND DELIVERED in REALITY not his goddamn imagination.
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you mean dead russian people in origin living in that part of Ukraine killed by mostly Ukrainian army yeah? |
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Yet that is not all the dead people now is it, wars always have two sides. i don't sip US kool aid, i don't sip Russian kool aid, you might try doing the same |
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so it is even. they have their geopolitical interests as well and fights for what they think they are entitled to. same like Americans.. doesn't mean they do not want have warm relations. it is seems like American government doesnt want warm relations more. it Russia, Russia, Russia responsible for everything bad what happens these days, bit like overhyped. I am not working for RT (haha), but I do check Russian news sometime and they are not so anti American). I have nothing against you, it is just I have that feeling like there's still that post cold war programming in America, but I am not wondering why. yeah, it is so complicated. and in the end it is one big scam on us (as in people). |
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in Donbass region? mostly. |
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i am an Orthodox Christian, i obviously have a lot of respect and appreciation for Russia and Russian people. but i am also critical of corruption, militarism, and shady black ops arms running, drug dealing, and interfering in international politics. so yeah, i am hyper critical of both MY OWN COUNTRY AND RUSSIA who are both equally the worst offenders at all of the above. Quote:
yes there is a lot of nudge nudge wink wink shit going on, but Putin is a total fucker and is as guilty of it as anyone and frankly it PISSES me off to see so many people supporting his bullshit. its a total false narrative and false dichotomy, this "America bad, Putin good" shit i encounter very frequently in recent years. as i mentioned, i am an Orthodox Christian so i encounter this a lot |
especially with this total clusterfuck in Syria where supposedly Putin is a hero for sending Russia air strikes to kill many thousands of Syrian civilians.
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"Is Trump really a serious contender for the Republican nomination?"
up until now i really didn't think so. now that hillary shot herself in the foot i don't know anymore. there was a conspiracy she was seriously ill. she finds out she is seriously ill - and then doesn't immediately hold a press conference! she had to have known this was going to leak. instead of saying she did it because she was still deciding how to break it, she says she didn't think it was relevant. all she had to do was come out immediately and say "it turns out i have pneumonia, but i believe i'm the better candidate for office so i'm going to carry on and fight!" people would feel sorry for her and respect her resolve. aand she says nearly a quarter of americans are sexist, racist, xenophobic and islamiphobic. funny thing is, she's right. the news pundits say the same thing every night. but she shouldn't say it. it was a dumb gaffe. you are trying to win over trump supporters, not alienate them. I think the liberals should put forth their own conspiracy theory: donald trump infected clinton with pneumonia. crazy thing is i can actually see that happening. in the smoke filled room: "that giulliani conspiracy theory is great! we need more!" ... "wait, i've got an idea - what if it were true?" "let's slip something into her water! but what?" "let's give her pneumonia! it'll knock her on her ass, but with today's medicine probably won't kill her. but it did kill william henry harrelson in office so people will go apeshit!" "brilliant!" |
yeah Overlord Hillary definitely slipped on a banana peel on this pneumonia BUT like i said, it won't improve any of Trump's numbers in one bit. too many Republicans on the street have already said they will vote for Hillary Clinton and anyone who has lived in America for long enoughncan see just how radical that statement is. GOP and the Clintons are mortal enemies. that Trump is so toxic that any let alone many Republicans will vote for her is a monumental political shift. frankly its unbelievable but yet its totally understandable
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huffpo reports polls having trump ahead in ohio by 5 and florida by 3 (bloomberg & cnn) in the immortal words of yogi berra--- remember france at the euros |
The wise ones are mentally preparing for a Trump win.
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chris cillizza is no slouch when it comes to analyzing horse races https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...the-2016-race/ apatheia ftw or atharaxia when possible |
nah, I'm betting on Clinton. I think the Trumpo momentum has reached it's apogee. Anyone on for a bet?
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bytor peltor bets a lot though-- in sports at least maybe ask him |
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how about 3 rounds though? first to hit the mat loses. |
WAIT WAIT I HAVE AN IDEA
we can bet-- but the one who loses eats their shoe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGcWTIWYDMQ |
what's your weight class?
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in the best condition i could make middleweight but i'm definitely on the heavy category now ha ha ha
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I'm curious, evollve. The Basket of Deplorables and their fascist idol were in your town last night. Did you dare enter their hellish chamber? |
There was a protest I was invited to. But bad weather. Plus I'm lazy. Today, I regret not going. But Hillary should be here in a few weeks. Might be fun to protest that, just for the sake of protesting, which is more fun than applauding.
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also, if they lose they'll claim "the polls were rigged!" nobody here i think (except greenlight) would put money on a trump victory, but on some sort of spread i'd bet that trump will come safely within 4 points of hillary in the popular vote, likely 2 when all is said and done, and could get as close as .5% with more goebbels techniques like the ones pointed out by soup nazi i mean, the fucker could conceivable win-- i'm not gonna put money on him, actually or hypothetically, but like i said, in russian roulette it's only a 1 in 6 chance of blowing your head off, so, the danger remains extreme. |
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Maybe but that could be because they overestimate the commitment of the Hillary camp. I do predict Clinton to win but Trumps supporters will come out and vote en masse. I'm not sure Clinton's support will do the same. There are parallels with the Brexit/Remain vote. Even those leading the brexit campaign conceded defeat on the night but it turns out many of those who said in polls they were voting remain, never bothered to on the day. 73% of 18-24 voted remain, but only 36% actually voted. The core Brexit vote was 50plus, and they had a roughly 80% turnout. Obviously not saying Clinton only appeals to youth or that Trump only attracts the middle aged but they are seen as appealing to one far more than the other. I do still think she'll win but if I had to rely on one candidates core support to come out as a block, it'd be Trumps. |
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and i get it btw, in any other election or candidate i wouldn't be so dismissing. indeed last year i am on record here saying the next president would be a "rich, elitist white man Republican" BUT Trump is too toxic to take advantage of all the racist backlash created by Obama presidency. |
low turnout elections favor republicans though, as you know from midterms
sure, trump isn't a traditional "republican", and a portion of the establishment has turned against him, but the biggest mistake in any conflict is to underestimate your opponent. fortunately you're not the one running hillary's campaign or she'd be chasing trump by now and we still have the debates to go-- fuck knows what will come of them. benito has already been trashing hillary's readiness and continuing with the attacks on her health. |
democracy is a goddamn blackmail
you better vote for one of us we might murder less middle eastern civilians than the other its all up to you nuke the planet |
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also low turn out cuts both ways, Republicans are even less enthusiastic about Trump than Democrats are about Overlord Hillary. |
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True story. The latest poll I read about this said that among HRC voters 60% support Hillary because they dig her, and 40% do it because Donaldo gives 'em the heebie-jeebies. Virtually the exact opposite happens with Drumpf: 40% will vote for him because they love his putridity, while 60% would rather cut off their own dicks before having Clinton as president. So, if you're twisted enough, you could conclude that Never Hillary > Never Trump... |
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trump is bloated, so he looks unwrinkled, and also he gives off "youthfulness" aura with melania on his arm. plus he's full of bluster and takes meds for "high energy," so it's not what he is (old, bloated, rambling, cardiac) but what he projects to the uninformed (rich, powerful, high energy, speaks his mind) that counts. the other part soup nazi already gave you a good reply |
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sure but 70 is 70 no matter how the cake is sliced. sometimes i think you put too much into optics and gossip BUT then i remember you love politics so i get your alarm i do find the age of these candidates and including Bernie Sanders who was popular for a time to reflect the growing gerantocracy in American life. Old people have more power than ever, its hilarious frankly hence my Kurt Cobain dinosaur comments which seem more and more literally true every day! |
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