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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.25.2013 04:44 PM

Yes I have actually, and its NOT up my alley. I don't like the flow, I don't like the guy's voice, I don't like the beats, I don't like the lyrics, and I don't like the guys personality. Its 100% meh for me. Sure he is from Compton, yeah he rapped with e-40, but that didn't make me like A$AP Mob neither (the e-40 approval, not the Compton part). e-40 can dig what he wants, but I ain't got to like it. With that 40-water approval, I can't diss Kendrick's character as a rapper, but I don't got to like his rap.

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"I wish MOB music would have just stuck around, I'm probably the only one still doing it." e-40

I understand there are stylistic differences between Kanye and Kendrick, but these are not substantive. For all intents and purposes, those dudes are the same shit different toilet. That is just my opinion, and again, I am pretty much a curmudgeon about music I don't like ;)

noisereductions 08.25.2013 07:34 PM

@suchfriends: you didn't like the shit he did with Game?

@louder: I'll download Dedication 5 day one. Can't help it.

@sev: Kendrick is the shit, and poised for the top.

Earl is to stay slightly below surface, like MF. I hate to say it, but Earl is delivering what Tyler wants to (lyrically). Tyler is MF on beats, but Earl is above and beyond lyrics. The two just need to make that duo record.

@suchfriends (again): A$AP MOB is legit. Rocky is fire. His flow is unreal.

louder 08.25.2013 11:54 PM

Eminem just announced his new album titled "MMLP2", new single is out Tuesday.

watch the trailers here:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SBDfRdz6yGI
https://youtube.com/watch?v=peMSWg94ZwY

apparently the album is exec produced by Dr. Dre & Rick Rubin.

MMLP is such a good album. hope this one won't end up sounding like some Linkin Park shit.

Severian 08.26.2013 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
"rappers like Kendrick Lamar or Kanye West"? they're nothing alike! haha.


Yeah, true. Nothing alike at all. Kanye is a pop star, who usually chooses to rap, but isn't strictly a rapper. He's hip-hop, but he's become too varied in his sound to be strictly labeled a rapper.

Kendrick is a rapper, and his rap comes from a completely different place than Kanye's. not to beat a dead horse or anything, but seriously nothing alike.

I thought you'd dig Kendrick, SFAD. He's clearly a disciple of west coast hip hop, and you can hear the cadence of early Bone Thugs in his flow. So, what da deal is?

louder 08.26.2013 07:11 AM

JT killed it @ the VMA's.

awful contest though.

first of all, why the hell wasn't Tyler's IFHY chosen for hip-hop video of the year?

secondly, i wish they picked actual talented pop singers like Grimes, Janelle, M.I.A, Fiona Apple, etc instead of sluts who need to show off their body so people would pay attention to their songs.

also, Macklemore seems to be stealing Em's spot as the rapper that the mainstream (aka normal people who don't listen to hip-hop) love.

noisereductions 08.26.2013 07:19 AM

I cannot seem to get into that Macklemore guy.

louder 08.26.2013 07:36 AM

i don't know, never gave him a chance.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.26.2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian

I thought you'd dig Kendrick, SFAD. He's clearly a disciple of west coast hip hop, and you can hear the cadence of early Bone Thugs in his flow. So, what da deal is?


No, he just comes from Compton and the west coast, but his beats and flow do not have that sound. They sound more like that typical post-crunk late 2000s rap that I don't like.


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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
SUchfriends, you should give his album tracks a try.


Did. Ain't feeling it. Y'all should know, just because I'm a curmudgeon doesn't mean I'm self-censored. I check out most new music and artists, I just don't like a lot of what I hear. However, not liking it is very different from never giving it a chance.

louder 08.26.2013 11:27 AM

how about this joint? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10yrPDf92hY

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.26.2013 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by louder

secondly, i wish they picked actual talented pop singers like Grimes, Janelle, M.I.A, Fiona Apple, etc instead of sluts who need to show off their body so people would pay attention to their songs.


A Janelle Monae performance at the highly-choreographed MTV VMA format would simply shatter and destroy all that bullshit that dominates MTV. It would be suicide for MTV to put such fantastic art showcased juxtaposition to the tripe that masqurades as music at the MTV VMAs. They gave her and Eykah an award simply to pacify the reality that SHE is exactly what MTV is missing (from its early 1990s art music videos and insanely elaborate performances.

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Originally Posted by louder



MC Eiht is ripping it up on that track, and it gets me totally nostalgic for MC Eiht who I loved back in the 1990s, but the beats are too crunk for me, that is NOT west coast UNTIL those two breaks with MC Eiht in the middle. I just can't STAND Kendrick's voice and delivery, on that track he sounded shaky like a pubescent boy going through a voice change ;)

By the way, Eiht gave a shout out to the blocks I live on!!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.26.2013 12:05 PM

Who the fuck told Robin Thicke to dress like Beatlejuice? I mean seriously, the novelty of him dressed like Beatlejuice being twerked by an awkward looking Miley is so laughable that it seems like something fabricated as satire on Family Guy. Its like, you can't even MAKE UP shit that fucking funny. I can't believe that either of them remotely wanted to be taken seriously afterwards.

 


And Billy Ray must be thinking, shit, THIS is the kind of douche bag that can lure my daughter into making an absolute fool of herself on live television? I think Billy Ray was TEN TIMES the fucking beafcake heart throb this douche is. Robin Thicke looks like if Morrissey morphed into Ricky Martin. Fucking bunch of lamez!

louder 08.26.2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Who the fuck told Robin Thicke to dress like Beatlejuice? I mean seriously, the novelty of him dressed like Beatlejuice being twerked by an awkward looking Miley is so laughable that it seems like something fabricated as satire on Family Guy. Its like, you can't even MAKE UP shit that fucking funny. I can't believe that either of them remotely wanted to be taken seriously afterwards.

 


And Billy Ray must be thinking, shit, THIS is the kind of douche bag that can lure my daughter into making an absolute fool of herself on live television? I think Billy Ray was TEN TIMES the fucking beafcake heart throb this douche is. Robin Thicke looks like if Morrissey morphed into Ricky Martin. Fucking bunch of lamez!

LOL. :D

everything you've said about Janelle/MTV in the above post is so true as well.

Diesel 08.26.2013 03:09 PM

Yea hot off the press!!

chocolate_ladyland 08.26.2013 07:06 PM

so Eminem is releasing a new album?

louder 08.27.2013 12:52 AM

yeah, new single is out now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=359na4NeaVA

the prod has an oldskool vibe that's reminiscent of the Beastie Boys. don't know how much i dig Em's vocals on the track though.

i guess the album really has nothing to do with the first MMLP, just a gimmick. Em is gonna sell a ton again huh, good for him.

EDIT: ok i just listened again and i dont like it at all, fuck it this is garbage!

Severian 08.27.2013 06:45 AM

What's twerking?

And while we're on be subject of things I'm apparently too old to know about,
Who the fuck is Jerome, why is he in the house, and why the hell should I watch my mouth because of it?

I know nothing of this Kardashian American era. It's like living in a foreign land. I didn't even know VMA's were still a thing!

... Edit: Kanye performed? How'd our boy do? I don't want to watch one of my favorite artists degrade himself with an MTV-affiliated performance.

Also, who's Robin Thicke?

I'll bet Nine Inch Nails killed it. I might be listening to their new album right this moment. *Might* be.

louder 08.27.2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
Robin THicke seems to be this fellow who i lazily thought was Ferrell and has a song with a cowbell and what soounds like a micheal jackson "ohh" sample that ironicly overshadowed Daft Punk's "Get Lucky" as the song of the summer.

Thicke is getting sued by Marvin Gaye's family for stealing the song, he offered them a six-figure settlement and they declined.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
What's twerking?

And while we're on be subject of things I'm apparently too old to know about,
Who the fuck is Jerome, why is he in the house, and why the hell should I watch my mouth because of it?

I know nothing of this Kardashian American era. It's like living in a foreign land. I didn't even know VMA's were still a thing!

... Edit: Kanye performed? How'd our boy do? I don't want to watch one of my favorite artists degrade himself with an MTV-affiliated performance.

Also, who's Robin Thicke?

I'll bet Nine Inch Nails killed it. I might be listening to their new album right this moment. *Might* be.

lol yeah, Kanye did Blood on the Leaves. it was cool but censored so i couldn't hear half of his rhymes.

louder 08.27.2013 10:31 AM

last year's VMA's were so much better simply cuz Tyler won an award. seeing him on stage while his mother was freaking out was so epic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAIeW_4hu0w

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.27.2013 10:39 PM

By the way, if y'all wanted a concise definition of 1989-1992 West Coast beats, THIS is it. It seems inspired by this classic 1991 NWA track




 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.27.2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
By the way, if y'all wanted a concise definition of 1989-1992 West Coast beats, THIS is it. It seems inspired by this classic 1991 NWA track






 


This is the most underrated West Coast album of all time. That spooky Tupac Makavel/Bone Thugz/E-40 Element of Surprise/Luniz/GraveDiggaz/Dr Dooom dark gothic rap was all inspired by this record. Plus, unlike the previous NWA records, this one is most authentically representative of the low-life, street experience. We used to bump the SHIT out of this record posted up on the block in the mid-1990s.. Its the pioner LA record..

Severian 08.27.2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
I cannot seem to get into that Macklemore guy.



Macklemore and Ryan Lewis can both fuck off with their macbook hip-hop. If he was black, people would laugh his ass out of Sea-Tac. And the anti-Kanye comments in this month's Rolling Stone was just plain uncalled for.

I know his type, and I'll bet that prick was born rich, and that it was either rap, or be forced to go to Harvard school of Business by his rich parents. (OH NO!) He'll be enrolling in University of Pheonix in a year, when the blow's gone, and his parents are sick of his face.

I had no opinion on the guy (other than I had no interest in him whatsoever) until I read that cocky Ryan Lewis comment.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.27.2013 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian

I know his type, and I'll bet that prick was born rich, and that it was either rap, or be forced to go to Harvard school of Business by his rich parents. (OH NO!) .


 


Wait, isn't that Ice Cube's Bio??

louder 08.28.2013 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis can both fuck off with their macbook hip-hop. If he was black, people would laugh his ass out of Sea-Tac. And the anti-Kanye comments in this month's Rolling Stone was just plain uncalled for.

I know his type, and I'll bet that prick was born rich, and that it was either rap, or be forced to go to Harvard school of Business by his rich parents. (OH NO!) He'll be enrolling in University of Pheonix in a year, when the blow's gone, and his parents are sick of his face.

I had no opinion on the guy (other than I had no interest in him whatsoever) until I read that cocky Ryan Lewis comment.

i can't get myself to listen to that dude objectively cuz i can't stand his fanbase; teenagers who feel like the whole world is against them, and think that they listen to "mature" and "meaningful" music.

also see: Eminem. his fans think that everything he raps about is extremely deep and clever. dude spits more corny punchlines than 2 Chainz!

louder 08.28.2013 09:18 AM

Danny Brown's new single + video "ODB": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0boHcBFSR0

WOW. this is incredible!

noisereductions 08.28.2013 09:20 AM

well I don't really care where Macklemore went to school or who his fans are. I just know that the handful of songs I've heard have been really boring to me.

@suchfriends: yr speaking my language. The past month I've been really into revisiting PE, NWA and BDP.

louder 08.28.2013 09:27 AM

"if this was '88 i would've signed to Ruthless" - Vince with the verse of the year.

sonic sphere 08.28.2013 04:27 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwWuHE6o6As

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.28.2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
"if this was '88 i would've signed to Ruthless" - Vince with the verse of the year.


That is a sick line yo! I grew up on Ruthless Records shit man, that is foundation LA rap music. I'm glad to see these youngsters not caught up in that crunkish trap bullshit and instead paying homage to our rootz. That Down South shit may be the mainstream and may have taken over rap music in the post-Nelly/3 6 Mafia 2000s era (sort of like when the westcoast style took over the 90s) but its good to hear some dudez resisting the temptation and deciding instead to keep it real!

 

louder 08.29.2013 12:38 PM

hahahaha i never reply to youtube vids but this time i just had to do it, so i made a comment against Eminem on some vid, and i actually got the top comment for that before i was attacked by a swarm of idiots who insisted that he's a living legend and the best lyricist of all time.

louder 08.29.2013 12:46 PM

i'm not even hating, i really like MMLP-era Em, that's why i'm upset that people are stupid enough to co-sign all the wack shit he does.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.29.2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
:mad::mad:Does Anybody Have A Live Link For A Download Of The Original Mc Tree Sunday School Mixtape. I'm Fucking Pissed. Soundcloud Took It Down, The Fader Link Is Dead, The Mtv Link Is Dead, Even The Mediafire Link Is Dead, And I've Been Bumping This Album Every Day. I'd Buy It For Twice The Price If Anyone In The Fucking World Was Selling It. :(


"Seek and you shall find, ask and you will receive, knock and it will be opened to you."


 

http://www.audiomack.com/album/tree/...deluxe-edition

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.30.2013 12:41 AM

 



and I've finally decided, albeit way late, that the second half (tracks 7-12) of this record is fucking fantastic, but the first half sucked so bad I hadn't given it a chance enough to get there..

noisereductions 08.30.2013 06:03 PM

where the fuck is D5?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.30.2013 11:38 PM

Dude. I know I'm on this dudez nuts lately like y'all was on kanye and jay but seriously MC Tree has just jumped into my ALL-TIME top-5 Soul Rap tracks

1) Tupac "Who Do You Believe In"
2) RZA "A Day To God Is A 1000 Years"
3) The Game with Chrisette Michelle "Lord Let Us Live"
4) Bone Thugz and Harmony "Crossroads"
5) MC Tree "Lord Don't Let Me Die Man"

Just knocked of E-40 "Pray 4 Me" !!!

louder 08.31.2013 03:37 AM

"hey i'm supposed to put out a tape today.. let's record it!"

-_______-

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.31.2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss
that whole mixtape is good. wasn't it Byter who posted it months ago. i jammed on that for couple of days then pooofff. gone.


No Bytor posted the newer Mixtape Sunday School II When Church Lets Out.. that motivated me to go back to the first Sunday School mixtape which I feel more.. That Track "Lord Don't Let Me Die Man" is on the first Mix Tape, with bangers such as "(Could Have Had It) All", "Chuch", "Check 4 My Ninjaz" which I keep bumping steadily on heavy rotation. I like When Church Lets Out, but I think as a whole Sunday School I is superior, even if II has better production..

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.31.2013 11:54 PM

I didn't realize that the new Ghostface was made entirely with a live band. That elevates into a different level for that fact alone..

http://www.michigandaily.com/arts/04...drian-younge16

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.01.2013 12:20 AM

Yeah, I didn't really investigate the details, I just listened to it. I definitely heard the live elements and knew Adrian Younge was involved, I just didn't realize it was ENTIRELY live instrumentation. That is fantastic. Too $hort doesn't ever get enough credit for doing that by the way.

louder 09.01.2013 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
where the fuck is D5?

..aaand it's out!

http://www.datpiff.com/d5

 

louder 09.01.2013 04:40 AM

btw the new John Legend album is amazing.


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