how can sexual attraction be a fetish? Only a racist fuck would say that. Finding different ethnicities beautiful is no different from finding redheads prettier than blondes, or vice versa. a real sexual fetish is something that WARPS sexuality, something that does not necessarily belong in sexuality, like bondage, shitting, animals, etc. a sexual fetish is something non-sexual that the fetishist cannot enjoy sex without, at least in clinical psychology.

liking chinese girls or british girls is just a sexual preference. if you choose to call that a fetish you should look at yourself and answer why you think that is so.

I think you're not quite getting that being a straight man is not the same thing as being an objetifying creep. That is an insult to straight men in general that you even suggest that.

It doesn't come across to me like you've had the opinion of most women, it's not like you personally make it feel safe from them to speak up. Most of my life I pretended not to give a shit, I was even afraid of saying something, because people will quickly start with the same old cliche they use to try and silence angry women.

However, since I became an activist I don't give a shit anymore and I'm not afraid anymore because I know better. But you should trust me, what women actually feel is very different from what you believe.

I take it from the time we first had this discussion about women on SYG. At some point, the environment became so hostile most girls stopped posting. They were AFRAID of joining the discussion in public, because they were afraid of being ridiculed like I was being, but I had lots of private messages sent to me saying they felt the same way. Sadly, that is a small representation of what happens in the real world too.

I generally find a larger number of Asian men very attractive, at least compared to the amount of ethnically diverse men I'll find attractive while looking on any given day. I find men of many other ethnicities attractive too, and I have been romantically linked to some of them in the past. Am I still weirdly fetishistic about Asian men? I don't think so. I think you are just talking about extreme cases.

I'll be honest, I so truely feel that I have 'the right one' for me, that I simply never look, or.even think about other women, in any kind of sexually objectified way.

Then again, I'm not a fucking filthpig, like the rest of you.

You do understand that sexual attraction is not something that you necessarily have to publicly talk about with other men? This kind of silly attitude to get "reassurance" from other men just pushes women away. Besides, in a world where 4 in every 10 woman is raped (US estimates) and 95% of women say they are sexually harrased on the streets regularly, where women are told that they are judged by their looks first and many go to extreme lenghts to "fit" the stereotype (which includes dying), where woman are told to be constantly afraid of where they walk, who they speak to and what they wear DO YOU REALLY THINK IT'S NECESSARY to reinforce that culture of fear and objetification in order for you to be a 'man'?

thinking an indian girl is hot as an individual is different from thinking indian girls are hot.

i think that if a girl actually appreciates a comment on her attractiveness she would prefer it to be a comment on her as individual and not that indian chicks are hotter than mexicans or something. i mean i don't really know but i think someone could potentially think you're only interested in talking to them because you wanna fuck an indian and i think that not many people would take that as a compliment

Funny enough, there's a creep in the cafe who stared at me for a long time and now finally made the move to offer to pay for my coffee. Now I have to be weary in case I get followed. Thanks world, what a great compliment.

Did you try to pull off the "only racists talk about racism thing"? Because I'm gonna pretend you didn't go there.

It is just fun, like talking about comics you like, or music you like, or art you find beautiful, or the cars you like, etc.

Beauty lies in the eye, and it is interesting to me what others find beautiful. More power to them you know?

I applaud your activism but choose your battles. a thread about how many smart, good looking Indian ladies there are in the library seems a bit of a stretch.

bingo.
especially when they've heard it/seen it from white men 3874778434 times

Does it look like I'm having fun?
Stop being so defensive, it's kind of silly. I'll admire you more if you have the guts to admit and reassess things.
And I don't need a pat in the back. This is part of my "activism" too, right here.
Also, read what kpp posted. Spot on.
He doesn't feel like he has to side with you to be a man.

I fully agree that a statement like "all indian girls are so hot" is a generalization. However, the statement, "there are so many beautiful indian girls here." is not. Neither statement is a racist statement either.

How is a strange man to approach a woman he finds attractive then? asking to pay for your coffee seems fairly innocuous.

what kdp said was a complete fabrication on his part as to what my statement meant. don't you see? people b ring their own baggage to things.

ask an unattractive guy how it would feel to have women talking about how handsome he is.

If Rob's attitude was to be vilified for starting this thread, we wouldn't have the artist perspective or commentary (which most certainly doesn't have to be dialectically profound) when looking at anything. Wait, we do have it, that's why we are spending so much time on a tedious diatribe like his intentions for starting this thread.

Nothing is faily innocous in a rape culture.
Nothing is harmless enough to make us feel less afraid of strange men.
Also, we don't come out on the street to be admired, approached, photographed, talked about, stared at.

Stop being sooo defensive.

Just listen to what I said, it's very simple:

Lesson 1: don't make women feel uncomfortable in a place you share with them.

Lesson 2: listen to them when they tell you they're bothered by something. Remember: you're not a woman, you don't know how it feels.

Lesson 3: keep your sexual thoughts to yourself. You don't need other men's approval of your libido to establish your identity as a straight men.

VOILA. DONE.

lol

do we live in a culture where 99% of men say they feel street harrashment on a dialy basis? no. false symmetry, weak argument.

OK.

I don't have a dick but he makes me HARD!

not an argument or a symmetry. Just a statement of fact.

and we DO live in a culture where certain attributes are manly and certain others are ridiculed at every turn. men are harrassed in their own manner. You may not know about it being a woman.

is it, really?
is it just a "preference" if a white man say they don't find black women as attractive?
then you probably think there's nothing wrong with this:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/ame...E750JCUD8THQ0H

Women can be bad homophobes too, when you don't tell them they are right. lol

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY GOING TO TRY AND SAY MEN ARE EQUALLY OPRESSED? seriously?

Rob just called women 'comic books', as if they are something to collect, or trade.

SHAME.

Knoxy: you should read Stoya's tumblr. Srsly.

lol

who is this generalized amalgams of "white men" you are talking about? I know plenty of white men that love black women. your generalizations are just as insipid as you claim mine to be.

It's been years that I'm actively involved with LGBTT activism, but everyone who knows me know that. I'm currently helping young kids and teenagers who suffer homophobia in their own family homes and helping push laws to stop a wave of violence. I happened to see GD's comment by chance, and it's really low. A close friend was recently attacked and almost killed in an attack motivated by homophobia, so your comment was really, really unfortunate.

This message wasn't for you though.
You will remain on ignore because you've always been vile and rude to me for no reason and I have no desire to read what you post.

There's plenty of research for you to get that data from.
As you know, you don't represent all "white men".
As you know, we live in a very racist world.
You don't think it's coincidence that black women make their hair straight, that indian women bleach their skin etc.?

As a humanist (you'll rarely see me admit to this in public), I'd be greatful to knox for letting me know if I've ever strayed so far as to treat women, or any person really, with anything less than the respect which we should all show for each other, if we ever hope to survive together on this planet.

You should treat the women who you see on the street, the library, or the internet with the same respect you'd show your mother, not as if she is some dirty stinkin' Puerto Rican.

It is no coincidence.

The world, currently, is run by rich white men.

In the far past it was run by women.

Hopefully, in the near future, it will be run by a collective of all peoples, but that is the star trek fan in me talking.

Fight the good fight knox. The world is full of horrors that are usually swept under the rug.
Just know that I am not someone who refuses to self-analyze. Just as no one knows your story, you do not know mine.

Let us rock together.

I think you just called Rob a cracker. Lol

You hear that, whitey?

I am a very pale, redheaded Puerto Rican. People always think I am Anglo/white, then I start speaking Spanish and they go "huh?"

Not all Hispanics are brown. You should see the Japanese Hispanics in Panama! They have been there for generations!

This is the good fight, Rob.
I'm not forced to shut up because you think it's not important enough for you. It doesn't matter how small of think it is in the great scheme of things.
You're clearly not a woman... or an Indian woman, which classifies as double oppression in your environment.
So pop out that bubble of male privilege for a bit and actually change something, don't be part of something that you claim to despise.
It's not the end of the world, but I'm sure you can do better.
Stop making excuses for yourself and just take it.
This is a horror that's swept under the rug, I'm bringing it out in the open.

lol x 2

in purely selfish heterosexual male interest, alienating girls so we can share share our libidos completely uninhibited is not desirable imo. it's kinda like smacking yr buddies asses with towels in the locker room cause none of the girls in gym class want to talk to you. and i already did that through middle school and highschool.

do you know what I like about you? you don't act like you're 8.
your jokes are way more complex.
your wife is a very lucky lady and she's awesome too.

it seems a very mild horror compared to the atrocities that go unchecked knox.

If I had said there were a lot of beautiful icelandic women in the library you could not tie it in to the horrors in India, see?

I never said you should shut up. In fact I have welcomed more comments by talking to you about this.

check out this high res image of the sun's corona.

this is the same guy that gets a huge thrill out of accusing me of being homosexual repeatedly knox. Nice to witness your selective vision here.

I'm not him.
If he's being sexist, you should tell him off.
And that doesn't give you the right to belittle women issues or objectify them women in general.
"Accuse you"? Why would you care if someone thinks you're gay?
And YOU don't have the right to tell ME how important or horrible something should be in my experience. That's called mansplaining and it's shitty and arrogant.

The comment you made about Icelandic women just seems to show you really didn't get it. And that's sad.

Actually, I act like I'm 7. :o

I'm never accused of being disrespectul, but oftentimes, told "stop it. That's gross"

To be fair, she's right. I'm pretty fucking gross.

Frankly, I think knox's only purpose with her fight for women's rights or alliance to homophobia on this forum is to make herself feel important and promote her music. I spotted this from her early posts and I still think this. Anyway, good luck to her, she does say some things that make sense, occasionally. I even repped her tonight for one of them. She just strikes me as insincere and too self-absorbed. Not the end of the world. Go on.