I'm the other person that voted for Ireland.

But keep that Killian's Irish Red the hell away from me.

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Ireland...Guinness Stout, people!
England...Bass Ale, bretheren!

These are your champions!

Ireland makes Guiness, we can't forget that. But they are also pretty bloody awful at lagers and ales. I'll accept that they're cider is passable, but I don't think they should be exalted for a mere one drink, no matter how wonderful it is... and in spite of the cliche, Guiness tastes ten-fold better over there, which sort of invalidates drinking it here.

burger king part own guiness you know. true fact.

So true. Give me a Belgium dubbel or tripel over any other European (or American) beer any day!

Depends.There is a really nice irish pub in Covent Garden that serves Guinness that is not second to the one that i tasted in Ireland.And that's only one.

mexicoooo

hee heee-- killian's irish red-- that's a phony product-- i used to sell it when i work on a pizzeria-- it's piss-- made by coors i think

about guinness, it's a nice beer, no doubt, but it does not rule supreme

i'd rather have a double chocolate stout.



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however, the lovely skunky aromas of this:

 

leave everything else in the dust?

why?

a) it's made by monks

b) monks can't fuck

c) they need to get off with something else, and that is beer

Logic is such a beautiful thing.

Blue Moon Belgian White is made by Coors too.

It's a slap in the face to Belgian ales.

Old story, but a friend coming back from the first Gulf War smuggled in a good deal of some Sympaticor Dopplebock and EKU 28 from Germany on his way back home.
Is there a beer stronger than EKU 28? I really don't think so.

that blue moon? oh i thought it was made in texas
it's not that bad, but it doesn't compare

i have no clue about EKU28 ... first time i hear about it. another one for the wish list.

I'm a little confused.When a proper ale drinker asks for beer he/she doesn't mean lager but ale or dark beers.I'm sure sonicl meant that when he started the poll,hopefully.

I do like my doppelbocks, too, though. And my mai bocks. My my, bocks!

But yeah, there is nothing like the aroma or taste of Belgium beer!

Is it lunchtime yet? I think I'm drinking my meal today!

Beer means lager and ale. And there are good and bad lagers just as there are good and bad ales. Pilsners, for example, the most common beer in Germany and Czech-land and the USA, are lagers. Most beers in England, however, such as bitters and stouts and pales, are ale. A beer drinker just has to know what he/she is ordering.

A drinker in England will ask beer but not mean lager,trust me.Unless,obviously,we're talking about generic pubs that have mainly lagers on tap.

I know. But in general, both ales and lagers are beer. The differentiation has to do with how they're fermented (in the brewing process).

In the case where there's more than one kind of "beer" on tap--meaning, ales and lagers--wouldn't the UK beer drinker specify: I want a pint of bitter... or stout... or pale... or lager... etc?

And as an ex bartender i can tell you that depending on age an ale-drinker makes the mental distinction between lager and beer.

Pork, I bet you were an ace bartender! I can just imagine.

That depends on how quick the bartender is at figuring out what someone wants.It comes with experience.

Of course! Every beer drinker--and I would say, regardless of age--who knows anything about beer does! So what are you saying?

He's right. As an ale-drinker, I call ale beer and consider lager beneath me. I also have an enormous beard and terrible personal hygeine. I know full well that they're all beers, but lager makes me ill and angry, hence the mental distinction.

I see. So if I went in and asked you for a "beer" and you gave me a bitter but what I really wanted was a doppelbock, you'd figure it out after the first few times I kept saying, "No, not THIS shit. I want a BEER, dammit. Don't you get it. A BEER!"

I'm saying that if you ask me what beer i prefer i'd automatically think about dark beers rather than lagers and that would be correct.Perhaps,i'm being anal about it but it does make sense if you work behind a bar.In England at least.

In my experience of serving american customers they generally mean a local beer(ie Pale Ale wich seems to be popular with american tourists in London) but as you say,it would be trickier with an american punter.

im not sure, as ive only tried a few things. But I cant understand how people enjoy budlight

What I'm guessing you're thinking of as "lager" is the usual stuff most Americans and continental Europeans drink--the piss-yellow stuff that's mostly pilsners and sometimes pale bocks. And that's true--those are lagers.

But lager also encompasses the wonderful world of bocks (dark doppels, mai bocks) and October fest beer. It's a shame to dismiss all lagers based on a limited experience of what they are.

They don't. Enjoy it, that is. They're not drinking for taste. They're only drinking to get drunk, or "to drink beer," with the intention of getting drink, because I don't know how you can get drunk on the stuff either, unless you drink about a case of it in one sitting. It's like water.

Right,drink attitudes:
One thing that i've always noticed is that,for example,people will always ask for a whiskey and coke even though pepsi is what most people get because pubs get it cheaper and it has become almost the norm.Still,people wont ever ask for a whiskey and pepsi.

yeah, it's not entirely that bad...i als obuy it from time to time for the same reason as the sierra nevada pale ale...because it's at the convenience store...sometimes i put some orange in there if i have it. usually, all i have on hand is concentrated o.j., so i put a tiny bit of it in there to accentuate the citrus flavor.

haha, yeah, you get some cheap nasty-ass well brand maker's mark or heavenly hill along with some sweet pepsi...

nice to meet you, _slavo_.

come on, it's got to be belgium. they've got to be the best allround. they probably have the widest variety of beers from any country listed in this poll.

dubbels, triples, trappists, white beers, abbeys, lambics... you name it. and their lagers (jupiler!) ain't bad either.

i think most of you who are voting in this poll base your opinion on just 1 or 2 brands alone. look at the bigger picture and do what !@#$%! said.

i must admit i don't know Belgian beers that well, and it's true that i've had some excellent beers there... lots of different kind of beers too, it's true...

in fact, maybe it's the right time for me to admit that i do not have a big knowledge of beers... i just love the czech beers i know, and was surprised not to see that contry included in the list. was also surprised to see Canada: do they have some good beers?

no. but to (north)americans, they are "exotic" :p

i'm no beer expert either. most beers i drink would be considered lagers in brit-lingo and are the dutch ones that are most common on tap in holland: grolsch, heineken, amstel, bavaria, dommelsch... not very exotic.

but the nicest ones i know are from belgium. the czechs have some great beers indeed; i'm not sure if i've ever had a canadian beer... maybe molson(?) once or twice. i suppose denmark has some internationally known lagers too (carlsberg, tuborg).

mexico

i was thinking about mexican beer...but the only ones i know are corona and desperados (tequila flavoured beer). at least that's what i thought... so then i googled and found out desperados isn't mexican but made in france! :rolleyes:

what are some good mexican beers?

haha.The question should have been: Who makes the beerest beer?Whose national dish is the dishest?Whose war was the most stylish?Whose bodycount is the most numerous?

corona
indio
victoria
leon
pacifico
tecate

avoid:
modelo
sol (not so bad, but it's not that good.)

i haven't had many foreign beers but i can tell you that u.s. beers suck.

i prefer murphy's to guiness and i drank a beer that i believe is spanish recently, called cruzcampo, it was quite nice.

This is very true. Over here, it's more about disliking domestic lager rather than disliking lager period. Unfortunately, the price of a semi-decent lager is likely to involve selling a limb or three, whereas a decent ale is generally cheaper, and more proliferate, than your average pint of generic shite.

I've been drinking Cumberland down the local this eve. I forget the brewery.

And while I think about it, that eco-warrior they do in the Foundry ain't too shabby.