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sonicl 03.23.2006 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by khchris(original)
Crazy that Patricia Morrison was in the LA punk band BAGS. Never could get into Sisters of Mercy.

Didn't she play bass for the Damned recently?


Patricia Morrsison did play bass for the Damned, yes. She is Mrs Dave Vanian these days, and they had a baby girl a couple of years ago.

_slavo_ 03.23.2006 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
If the Cure are goth than Joy Division is the best.

I don't listen to any of these bands. They make me sick.


If Joy Division was there, I would have given them a vote.

Hip Priest 03.23.2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
Patricia Morrsison did play bass for the Damned, yes. She is Mrs Dave Vanian these days, and they had a baby girl a couple of years ago.


Excellent info, thanks man. The Damned - should they be considered Goth? THey went through a Goth stage, with the LP that had Grimly Fiendish and Sanctum Sancturum on, didn't they? Can't remember it's name though.

Fox 03.23.2006 04:02 PM

The Cure is the only one I like in the poll, but I don't think they're really "gothics", are they?

krastian 03.23.2006 04:05 PM

Hmmm.....I wouldn't really call The Damned a "goth band." My band plays Neat Neat Neat. They rock.

Hip Priest 03.23.2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fox
The Cure is the only one I like in the poll, but I don't think they're really "gothics", are they?


Grrrr, this is why I've got 160-odd posts, I've explained this about 150 times! :)

Basically, I put them in because goths all love The Cure (fact), and so that kind of makes them goth. I agree, not proper goth, but neither are The Mission, and no-ones complained abot that.

So it's up to you. there's an option to nominate your own, 'cause I think of everything.

Love.

Hip Priest 03.23.2006 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by krastian
Hmmm.....I wouldn't really call The Damned a "goth band." My band plays Neat Neat Neat. They rock.


But when they were doing the whole Grimly Fiendish thing, and dressing as goths, and did you see them doing Video nasty on the Young Ones with the cobwebs over them etc, and then Eloise, that was a gothy love song or something, and that LP had a woman in a black cape in a graveyard I mean that's goth to an extent right?

Glice 03.23.2006 04:10 PM

Law of the Goth band: Thou shalt not admit thyself to be a goth.

krastian 03.23.2006 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hip Priest
But when they were doing the whole Grimly Fiendish thing, and dressing as goths, and did you see them doing Video nasty on the Young Ones with the cobwebs over them etc, and then Eloise, that was a gothy love song or something, and that LP had a woman in a black cape in a graveyard I mean that's goth to an extent right?


Well, I guess a little...I guess I just don't think their music (especially early stuff) sounds that "gothy."

ohthehorror 03.23.2006 04:19 PM

I don't consider The Damned Goth, well atleast their early stuff. They just explored the darker side of Punk. Their first LP is by far one of my favorite records.

Hip Priest 03.23.2006 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by krastian
Well, I guess a little...I guess I just don't think their music (especially early stuff) sounds that "gothy."


May I implore you to consider the case by presenting three snippets of lyrical evidence, from the LP 'Phantasmagoria'? (Goth title!):

IF YOU CANT SLEEP TONIGHT
AND IF A FEVER GRIPS YOU TIGHT
THERE'S A PLACE WE MUST EXPLORE
OPEN WIDE THE DOOR
AND WE MAY BE THE HAUNTED MEN
BUT WE WILL HOLD OUR HEADS UP WHEN
WE WALK DOWN THE STREET OF DREAMS
THE DEAD BEATS AND THE DISPOSSESSED
THE SEEKERS OF UNLIKLINESS
A BEUTY WALKS ARM IN ARM


or

LOVE LIKE A CARNIVALS RUNAWAY RIDE
WE SPIN AND WE CLIMB TO WHERE ONCE SIRENS CRIED
AND THEN SOMETIMES ANGELS CAN BE DEVILS TOO
IT'S TRUE OF YOU
WHEN SHADOWS NO LONGER FALL
AND FOOTSTEPS CAN'T BE HEARD AT ALL
I HEAR A GHOST OF A CALL
ITS TRUE FROM YOU


or

GRIMLY FIENDISH,PLAYS THE GAME THAT NEVER PAYS
SUNG OUT LOUD BUT NEVER PRAYED
GRIMLY FIENDISH,WEARS A COAT THATS BLACK AND LONG
HE DOSEN'T KNOW THAT IT'S ALL WRONG


Gothy gothy gothy!

But usually they're punk, you're absolutely correct.

ohthehorror 03.23.2006 04:22 PM

Do you consider The Misfits Goth?

krastian 03.23.2006 04:22 PM

Would you call The Misfits goth? They have lyrics about death and graveyards etc.

Hip Priest 03.23.2006 04:23 PM

Excellent double posting, guys.

I don't know them. Would you call them goth?

ohthehorror 03.23.2006 04:24 PM

The Misfits were a punk band that used horror imagery, often cited as the origin of Horror Punk.

Glice 03.23.2006 04:25 PM

The only people I know who like the Misfits are Goths. Goths, the lot of them.

krastian 03.23.2006 04:25 PM

The Misfits? No way in hell.

Double post-wow that was kind of weird.

atari 2600 07.18.2006 07:22 PM

Out of these listed, there are no acceptable choices other than the Cure or Bauhaus & I went for The Cure.

You dig that whole Goth-pose don't you, Hip Priest?

nomadicfollower 07.18.2006 07:28 PM

I don't like ANY goth.
More like I don't KNOW any goth. The only band on that list that I'd listened to was The Cure and I'm not really a fan.

m^a(t)h 07.18.2006 07:49 PM

joy divison were goth. smashing pumpkins were goth. I would vote either of them.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 07.18.2006 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nomadicfollower
I don't like ANY goth.
More like I don't KNOW any goth. The only band on that list that I'd listened to was The Cure and I'm not really a fan.


Do yourself a favor and listen to some Bauhaus.

My favorite songs:
Stigmata Martyr
Dark Entries
King Volcano
The Spy in the Cab
Rosegarden Funeral of Sores (John Cale song)
Bela Legosi's Dead
Crowds

Daycare Nation 07.18.2006 08:44 PM

Most if not all of the bands in this poll existed before the term goth was even used...but I voted Cure.

jon boy 07.19.2006 04:06 AM

i was a cure fan when i was younger. mainly due to my sister playing them all the time and hearing it through her bedroom wall. she got to see them when they were at their best too.

Tokolosh 07.19.2006 05:12 AM

I'm not sure if these are all so-called Gothic bands, but here go's.
All about Eve, the mission, sisters of mercy, Bauhaus, Coil, Swans.

porkmarras 07.19.2006 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nefeli
wow..have seen christian death and it was one of most hilirious gigs- at least for me- that have ever been.

dont have a problem with goth people, i just feel sorry for them for having to dress certain way. arent they bored all these years?

Christian Death?Oh my god,this forum will never cease to surprise me.I admit that they were one goth band that i listened to regularly.

porkmarras 07.19.2006 05:17 AM

Even though they weren't strictly goth in sound(metal was most certainly an influence).

jon boy 07.19.2006 05:23 AM

its over 100 degrees here in berlin and hotter on the trams and trains and yesterday i saw a male gothe in full make up, all in black with a satin jacket on! no wonder they are all so thin.

porkmarras 07.19.2006 05:34 AM

And black slims you down doesn't it?

sonicl 07.19.2006 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh
I'm not sure if these are all so-called Gothic bands, but here go's.
All about Eve, the mission, sisters of mercy, Bauhaus, Coil, Swans.


I'd say that All About Eve, The Mission, and Sisters of Mercy certainly all fit well into the Goth pigeonhole. Bauhaus predated Goth but got sucked into the genre by the media - they were more a "post-Glam" band. Coil and Swans may share some lyrical concerns with Goth bands, but never in a million years would I include them in the genre.

Goth is more a "style" than a genre, I would say (speaking as one who dabbled with that style for almost three years).

porkmarras 07.19.2006 05:44 AM

Last time i've been at the Slimelight i've seen some of the most ridiculous of people.It suits some people but some others just look silly.

sonicl 07.19.2006 05:46 AM

I looked silly. You have to have the pale complexion / dark hair thing going on for it to work, and I don't.

porkmarras 07.19.2006 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
I'd say that All About Eve, The Mission, and Sisters of Mercy certainly all fit well into the Goth pigeonhole. Bauhaus predated Goth but got sucked into the genre by the media - they were more a "post-Glam" band. Coil and Swans may share some lyrical concerns with Goth bands, but never in a million years would I include them in the genre.

Goth is more a "style" than a genre, I would say (speaking as one who dabbled with that style for almost three years).

Round of applause.
 

sonicl 07.19.2006 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Round of applause.



Thank you thank you.

 

Tokolosh 07.19.2006 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicl
I'd say that All About Eve, The Mission, and Sisters of Mercy certainly all fit well into the Goth pigeonhole. Bauhaus predated Goth but got sucked into the genre by the media - they were more a "post-Glam" band. Coil and Swans may share some lyrical concerns with Goth bands, but never in a million years would I include them in the genre.

Goth is more a "style" than a genre, I would say (speaking as one who dabbled with that style for almost three years).


Agreed.

_slavo_ 07.19.2006 06:10 AM

I like this picture teasing,

LOL for ya porkie and sonicl !!!


 

Cantankerous 07.19.2006 06:10 AM

On that list, the Cure. But Bauhaus is good.

Tokolosh 07.19.2006 06:12 AM

Isn't The Cure new wave pop?

porkmarras 07.19.2006 06:13 AM

Some dared saying that Curve were goth.That's a crime.

Cantankerous 07.19.2006 06:14 AM

well, if i was asked to pick one from that list, then there you have it.

porkmarras 07.19.2006 06:15 AM

I mean Curve not The Cure honey.You werent even born at that time.


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