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Derek 11.22.2010 09:17 AM

I will record something for this when I actually have Adobe Audition again.

Genteel Death 11.22.2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hevusa
It isn't a statement about skills. It is simply making everyone's songs sound as good together as possible. If something like this is going to be done it might as well be done right.


Again, this shouldn't be the main priority at all. If push comes to shove I think the only person who has enough proper credentials to do something professional with the mastering is Terminal Pharmacy, so if he's up for it that's fine. He'd also be ideal because he's not a musician himself, so that doesn't create a bad atmosphere between people.

hevusa 11.22.2010 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Anyway, NOBODY IS MASTERING ANYTHING. Full stop. Let's not ruin the fun already eh?


Then there is no point to submit something as an artist because the whole album will just sound like a load of disjointed crap. The person who masters their shit the loudest will make everyone else sound stupid in comparison...

It would be foolish to make such a compilation. I don't care if I'm the one mastering it or not, but it has to be done.

Genteel Death 11.22.2010 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
Then there is no point to submit something as an artist... because the whole album will just sound like a load of disjointed crap.


fine, it won't be the end of the world I'm sure. I'll still listen to all the tracks all the way through regardless.

Rob Instigator 11.22.2010 09:23 AM

I am down to send art for this endeavour

Glice 11.22.2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by knox
i'm afraid - what do you mean by collab?
sounds like some communist thing.

hevusa has to stop this bullshit otherwise nothing will work out.

(i already know what i'd like to do)


Collaboration dear.

nicfit 11.22.2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
Then there is no point to submit something as an artist... because the whole album will just sound like a load of disjointed crap. Or the person who masters their shit the loudest will make everyone else sound stupid in comparison...

It would be foolish to make such a compilation.


I really don't think there's any need for "coherence" for something like this.
It's not an album, it's a compilation of disjointed stuff, and it's not a commercial release, so a few flaws are more than acceptable, the only thing which is probably worth curating is some sort of "sensed" tracklist.
As for loudness, just turn up and down the volume when you feel like doing so while listening haha, even if it's not the same thing or "technically/formally correct" people interested will still enjoy a few listens

kinda simplistic POV, I know, but hell, seems the most natural thing to do to me.

 

EVOLghost 11.22.2010 09:39 AM

I'd so be down...if I only had the resources.

Genteel Death 11.22.2010 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I am down to send art for this endeavour


Rob do a portrait of a bare-chested sway for the sleeve. :)

shabbray2.0 11.22.2010 09:46 AM

to make it official I am in it. collabing with genteel death!
if this all takes form in the end and there would be a place for another tune I might put another into it, or maybe not.
priority collab!

hevusa 11.22.2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
I really don't think there's any need for "coherence" for something like this.
It's not an album, it's a compilation of disjointed stuff, and it's not a commercial release, so a few flaws are more than acceptable, the only thing which is probably worth curating is some sort of "sensed" tracklist.
As for loudness, just turn up and down the volume when you feel like doing so while listening haha, even if it's not the same thing or "technically/formally correct" people interested will still enjoy a few listens

kinda simplistic POV, I know, but hell, seems the most natural thing to do to me.



Sorry, I don't understand a point of view that shoots itself in the foot before it even starts walking. When there is an option that can make a project sound better, less disjointed, and more cohesive with the end result being a better presentation of everyone's submissions, I see no reason why this shouldn't be done.

Genteel Death 11.22.2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabbray2.0
to make it official I am in it. collabing with genteel death!
if this all takes form in the end and there would be a place for another tune I might put another into it, or maybe not.
priority collab!


I meant to pm you again to say that you can do the mastering of the track yourself, if everything goes to plan.

knox 11.22.2010 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Collaboration dear.


it's some communist orgy thing.
i'll let the boss know - i'll have an answer soon.

Derek 11.22.2010 10:13 AM

No fucking mastering.

Genteel Death 11.22.2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SONIC GAIL
I would really like to get Ryan and myself involved in this. We have a drummer living with us now too. Our acoustic sound has been morphing into electric. I found all of my mom's old stage equipment mixers, her mic and some other shit. I will just have to see if he's up for it.

That sounds cool.

SONIC GAIL 11.22.2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nicfit
Good, good!
I'll start a proper thread on this in a few days, so things won't get too mixed up in here (and this thread is kinda messy already).


Sweet I am definitly in

shabbray2.0 11.22.2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
I meant to pm you again to say that you can do the mastering of the track yourself, if everything goes to plan.


I didnt meant any mastering-work.
just got some halfway finished tunes sitting around and if one of them would fit into it in the end, I might consider. if we got the need of more tunes, number wise. but it seems there are already enough contributors!


after i read through the whole thread I must say that I am kinda excited bout the whole compilation (artistwise)

nicfit 11.22.2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
Sorry, I don't understand a point of view that shoots itself in the foot before it even starts walking. When there is an option that can make a project sound better, less disjointed, and more cohesive with the end result being a better presentation of everyone's submissions, I see no reason why this shouldn't be done.


I don't mean to start a whole discussion about mastering, even less so in this specific thread.
Just bear with the fact that people may like to "present" their stuff as they want, without the intervention of someone they don't necessarily have trust in or share a similar "taste"/"intention" with (since mastering is a subjective process that not necessarily has good results that will make tracks sound better, especially to the "artists' ears").
As much as you went for "self-mastering" rather than saving+spending $$$ to have the job done by someone else (despite the improvement this could result in), people may prefer to just give it a try on their own or don't give a shit about it and live happily ever after in either case.
It's an option, not a necessity.
I doubt you paint your car white every summer to prevent overheating under the sun just because it's the best option.


hevusa 11.22.2010 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
I doubt you paint your car white every summer to prevent overheating under the sun just because it's the best option.


No, I park it under shade because, like mastering, it is the best option.

nicfit 11.22.2010 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
No, I park it under shade because, like mastering, it is the best option.

There's not always a spot in the shade, dear friend, you're way too optimistic.

hevusa 11.22.2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nicfit
There's not always a spot in the shade, dear friend, you're way too optimistic.


True... but in this case there are several nice, cool, shady spots.

SONIC GAIL 11.22.2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
That sounds cool.


ok me and ryan r in. i'll see if i can convince our friend to lay down some percussion with us. This is going to be so much fun!

Genteel Death 11.22.2010 11:48 AM

You might as well all submit your tracks to me for the time being.

Send them to porkmarras@yahoo.co.uk

I will sit down through all of them and try to come up with a tracklist.

Any suggestions for a title?

shabbray2.0 11.22.2010 11:50 AM

"Deep Blue Champloo"
hahaha
but it rhymes!!!

knox 11.22.2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
You might as well all submit the your tracks to me for the time being.

Send them to porkmarras@yahoo.co.uk

I will sit down through all of them and try to come up with a tracklist.

Any suggestions for a title?


is there a deadline?

nicfit 11.22.2010 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
True... but in this case there are several nice, cool, shady spots.

This sounds a tad too much like a sex-related avance....:p
Anyway, I think we both made our points clear...now let's just let people make their own choices and go on with the talkin' 'bout submissions etc, shall we?

Genteel Death 11.22.2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
is there a deadline?


End of January/start of February. I'm flexible though.

SONIC GAIL 11.22.2010 12:05 PM

sounds good;)

greedrex 11.22.2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
t.

Any suggestions for a title?


"FULLERENE SUBMARINE"

will probably be submitting something.
Hi everybody btw
i still come here pretty often, just don't get to post that much.
yo

hevusa 11.22.2010 01:33 PM

So will this project be a printed CD or two? Who will pay for the manufacturing costs? If the project makes a profit how will that proceeds be handled? And so on?

shabbray2.0 11.22.2010 01:34 PM

fullerene submarine comes short after deep blue champloo in its cheesyness

hevusa 11.22.2010 01:36 PM

"Genteel Death" as a title works for me.

Savage Clone 11.22.2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
So will this project be a printed CD or two? Who will pay for the manufacturing costs? If the project makes a profit how will that proceeds be handled? And so on?



How about we wait and see who makes the deadline and who flakes (not to mention how many contributions there are in the end) before we start arguing over methods of delivery.

Genteel Death 11.22.2010 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
So will this project be a printed CD or two? Who will pay for the manufacturing costs? If the project makes a profit how will that proceeds be handled? And so on?

Before all that stuff we should concentrate on getting people to submit their tracks when they're happy with them. One step at a time.
Patience hevusa.

hevusa 11.22.2010 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Before all that stuff we should concentrate on getting people to submit their tracks when they're happy with them. One step at a time.
Patience hevusa.



mmmmkay.

SpaceCadetHayden 11.23.2010 12:58 AM

If we get some hop hop recorded/finished by then, I'll certainly submit. So long as some jungle boogy is welcome. I'm quite excited for this. Almost every musician on the board I've heard has been very enjoyable with the few listens I've heard but there's just too many of you bastards to keep track of. All in one convenient .zip file or something sounds fantastic.

Genteel Death 11.23.2010 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpaceCadetHayden
If we get some hop hop recorded/finished by then, I'll certainly submit. So long as some jungle boogy is welcome. I'm quite excited for this. Almost every musician on the board I've heard has been very enjoyable with the few listens I've heard but there's just too many of you bastards to keep track of. All in one convenient .zip file or something sounds fantastic.


Bring it on Hayden!

Genteel Death 11.23.2010 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
"FULLERENE SUBMARINE"

will probably be submitting something.
Hi everybody btw
i still come here pretty often, just don't get to post that much.
yo

hello baby

Glice 11.23.2010 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpaceCadetHayden
If we get some hop hop recorded/finished by then, I'll certainly submit. So long as some jungle boogy is welcome. I'm quite excited for this. Almost every musician on the board I've heard has been very enjoyable with the few listens I've heard but there's just too many of you bastards to keep track of. All in one convenient .zip file or something sounds fantastic.


Please do this. I hope we'd all want a good compilation rather than 12 third-rate Sonic Youth rip-offs; if we can't have that, some diversity would definitely help. Maybe I should do some dancehall...

Genteel Death 11.23.2010 07:07 AM

Me and shabba should have something that is as far away from a sub-SY sounding song as possible. I suggested having something like that Berlin cassette underground compilation posted on WFMU a while ago in mind, so hopefully it will all fall into place.


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