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davenotdead 02.09.2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
I think we're onto something here. I already encourage people to download my band's music for free (even "steal it" if that makes them feel like a rebel). I suppose we need to start paying them next!



we really are onto something. if paris hilton gets paid to show up at a club for a few hours, then I should get paid to listen to a band's album. we are both doing the same thing=promoting/being seen. I'd even walk around downtown around lunch-time with the band's tee-shirt on for a small extra fee.

Better_Than_You 02.09.2009 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
you guys in large cities don't know how good you have it.


i dunno. ive been living in the minneapolis area for a while.. and the only bands that i've seen worth remembering for the past school year was xiu xiu on haydens birthday and the alarmists.
i've been checking city pages for a pretty long time now and theres not a lot of good music coming through the cities. as far as i can tell. bishop allen and mates of state are on their way and theyre ok, but i dont know if i really want to waste money on them.

which also brings me to another point.

after seeing the alarmists live i was really impressed. i got into the songs and i thought they were so great. after that show my friend downloaded some of the songs that we liked off of limewire and after hearing them live, theyre recorded stuff is simply a disappointment.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.09.2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
we really are onto something. if paris hilton gets paid to show up at a club for a few hours, then I should get paid to listen to a band's album. we are both doing the same thing=promoting/being seen. I'd even walk around downtown around lunch-time with the band's tee-shirt on for a small extra fee.


ideas like that are what are destroying music, facetious or not.

davenotdead 02.09.2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
ideas like that are what are destroying music, facetious or not.


it won't only be music.

i'll be sending Ralph Lauren a bill for all the times I've worn that polo shirt I have with the huge polo logo on the back

davenotdead 02.09.2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Better_Than_You
i dunno. ive been living in the minneapolis area for a while.. and the only bands that i've seen worth remembering for the past school year was xiu xiu on haydens birthday and the alarmists.
i've been checking city pages for a pretty long time now and theres not a lot of good music coming through the cities. as far as i can tell. bishop allen and mates of state are on their way and theyre ok, but i dont know if i really want to waste money on them.

which also brings me to another point.

after seeing the alarmists live i was really impressed. i got into the songs and i thought they were so great. after that show my friend downloaded some of the songs that we liked off of limewire and after hearing them live, theyre recorded stuff is simply a disappointment.



but most bands don't go to minnesota, so i dont know if that counts.

Dead-Air 02.09.2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
ideas like that are what are destroying music, facetious or not.


But wait, I thought it was "home taping" that was "killing music". I'm so confused...

uhler 02.09.2009 06:55 PM

downloading music hurts the labels more than it hurts the artists. i thought everyone knew that.

Dead-Air 02.09.2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by uhler
downloading music hurts the labels more than it hurts the artists. i thought everyone knew that.


The reality is that if the studies are correct that P2P users buy more music than the average consumer, then it doesn't actually hurt anybody.

Better_Than_You 02.09.2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
but most bands don't go to minnesota, so i dont know if that counts.


thats true. i wish minnesota didnt have such a bad rep for being boring and lame.

we're not that bad. honestly.

Rob Instigator 02.09.2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
The reality is that if the studies are correct that P2P users buy more music than the average consumer, then it doesn't actually hurt anybody.

that's faulty logic. they would buy the stuff anyways. most of what they download they do NOT buy

Better_Than_You 02.09.2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
most of what they download they do NOT buy


maybe what they mostly download is shit and doesnt deserve to be bought.

Dead-Air 02.09.2009 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
that's faulty logic. they would buy the stuff anyways. most of what they download they do NOT buy


Neither of us can prove that either way. However, to go back to the radio analogy, most of what we hear on the radio we don't buy either. Nonetheless, the radio has proven to be much more of a promotional tool for music sales than an alternative to buying music. Mind the labels didn't think it would be, and they were horribly frightened of those innocuous cassette tapes as well. And VCRs were supposed to hurt movie sales too, which is particularly amusing when you see the amount of movies people buy and rent these days.

Death & the Maiden 02.10.2009 01:03 AM

I used to think that downloading music was bad. But some albums are too hard or expensive to come by.

Sonic Youth 37 02.10.2009 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Death & the Maiden
I used to think that downloading music was bad. But some albums are too hard or expensive to come by.

Exactly. I'm not paying $40 for an import cd.

PAULYBEE2656 02.10.2009 08:57 AM

whats a soulseek?


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