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afterthefact 01.22.2008 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
post office is GREAT! it is the first novel bukowski wrote after leaving work at the post office. it is the best american novel bout the humiliation and degradation of working a 9-5. I love it.


Awesome, I am so glad to hear it. I already started into The Unbinding but I'll definately go for Post Office next.

truncated 01.22.2008 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RdTv
Not to stray from the topic of this thread, but I'm about to stray from the topic of this thread. For the record, I believe that highlights are very very difficult to accomplish without losing ones sense of dignity. Basically, highlights are not working most times I see them. Not that I care and not that I am a specialist ont he topic, its just an observation.

Highlights are nauseating. What's wrong with you people?

afterthefact 01.23.2008 08:14 AM

Like I said, I tried it once at 16 because my mom wanted to see if she could do it, and on that day, she realized she can't.

su x* 01.23.2008 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
grab CAT'S CRADLE or GALAPAGOS by Kurt Vonnegut

or

HAM ON RYE by Charles Bukowski

kurt vonnegut, i was contemplating writign that, but you beat me to it

one of my greatest reads yet.

may i add slaughterhouse-five /aka the childrens crusade

afterthefact 01.23.2008 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by su x*
kurt vonnegut, i was contemplating writign that, but you beat me to it

one of my greatest reads yet.

may i add slaughterhouse-five /aka the childrens crusade


Welcome to the board su x*. Glad to know that as a newbie you have something to contribute, and aren't one of the hundreds that join just to say "Who here LOVES Sonic Youth?!?" :)

su x* 01.23.2008 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by afterthefact
Welcome to the board su x*. Glad to know that as a newbie you have something to contribute, and aren't one of the hundreds that join just to say "Who here LOVES Sonic Youth?!?" :)

I LOVE SONIC YOUTH


no, im flattered

Rob Instigator 01.23.2008 10:51 AM

SONIC LIFE!


there is NOTHING wrong with someone joining this board to proclaim to all the cyber world that they love the greatest musical group of the last 30 years!!!!

afterthefact 01.23.2008 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
SONIC LIFE!


there is NOTHING wrong with someone joining this board to proclaim to all the cyber world that they love the greatest musical group of the last 30 years!!!!


I guess not, I can be somewhat cynical in my old age of 24. I guess the annoying people should be the ones who join but never say anything, just so they can get free stuff out of the Sonic Sharing section. Not that there is much there anymore, but it's not like they know that.

Ok, now back to books! Books, books, books!

afterthefact 01.23.2008 08:22 PM

I'm starting on Post Office tonight...

su x* 01.24.2008 01:07 AM

why is the literacy thread about phalluses, drugs and unnecesary-ness of schooling

and the illiteracy thread about books

i think i'll read post office

Cantankerous 01.24.2008 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by truncated
Highlights are nauseating. What's wrong with you people?

yeah seriously.
i'm a member of the "my hair is all one color and i intend to keep it that way forever" club.

su x* 01.24.2008 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
yeah seriously.
i'm a member of the "my hair is all one color and i intend to keep it that way forever" club.

(h5)

m1rr0r dash 01.24.2008 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by su x*
why is the literacy thread about phalluses, drugs and unnecesary-ness of schooling

and the illiteracy thread about books

i think i'll read post office


ah, quick study. you've noticed we do everything here backwards.

afterthefact 01.24.2008 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by su x*
(h5)


Is... this a hair color?

su x* 01.25.2008 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by afterthefact
Is... this a hair color?

never!

its the high 5 emoticon in msn
this is after all the culture thread

afterthefact 01.25.2008 08:10 AM

Hey, hey, just askin' :)

RdTv 01.25.2008 08:29 AM

Why don't you stop askin' so many darn questions and go read a book.....frivolous frivolous boy!

afterthefact 01.25.2008 10:52 AM

I'm readin', I'm readin'!

ChocolateJesus 01.25.2008 11:15 AM

Bukowski is my favorite American writer. You can really do no wrong with Hank. He is the man that convinced me poetry did not have to be convoluted bullshit. That is quite an accomplishment.

I would like to recommend Donna Tartt - The Secret History.
one of my favorite novels, to be sure.

Rob Instigator 01.25.2008 11:34 AM

there is always that space there
just before they get to us
that space
that fine relaxer
the breather
while say
flopping on a bed
thinking of nothing
or say
pouring a glass of water from the
spigot
while entranced by
nothing

that
gentle pure
space

it's worth

centuries of
existence

say

just to scratch your neck
while looking out the window at
a bare branch

that space
there
before they get to us
ensures
that
when they do
they won't
get it all

ever.


by chuck bukowski from " You Get So Alone At Times That It Just Makes Sense" - pg. 312 - 1986

ChocolateJesus 01.25.2008 11:43 AM

the flesh covers the bone
and they put a mind
in there and
sometimes a soul,
and the women break
vases against the walls
and the men drink too
much
and nobody finds the
one
but keep
looking
crawling in and out
of beds.
flesh covers
the bone and the
flesh searches
for more than
flesh.

there's no chance
at all:
we are all trapped
by a singular
fate.

nobody ever finds
the one.

the city dumps fill
the junkyards fill
the madhouses fill
the hospitals fill
the graveyards fill

nothing else
fills.

Alone With Everybody - Bukowski.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 01.25.2008 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by afterthefact
...because I know nothing about books. Every now and then I get lucky and find something good, but usually any book I find is so boring that I can't even finish it. I have good taste, I just don't know where to look. It's like going to Chicago and ordering Papa John's cause you don't know the numbers for any good pizza place. But I tried a little harder than usual this time and I picked these up at the library:

The Unbinding - Walter Kirn
Tough Luck - Jason Starr
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Post Office - Charles Bukowski

Good choices? I don't know; the last two I picked because I've heard good things about the authors, the first one because it was written by the same author as thumbsucker, and Touch Luck? Just picked it up, I have no clue about it. I hope though that if I just keep following the trail of good books (assuming I am close) I'll get more and more refined in my reading choices.


Charles Bukowski is similar to Salinger, except everything is a lot more violent and sexual. I just read Ham on Rye, really good book.

afterthefact 01.25.2008 04:01 PM

Just finished "Post Office." It had it's ups and downs, but mostly ups, it was pretty good. I was going to read "Tough Luck" by Jason Starr next, but I may end up skipping it all together. I think I am going to start in on "Tropic of Cancer." I'm glad I took off sick at lunch today.

Rob Instigator 01.25.2008 04:17 PM

ham on rye is excellent and harsh the whole way through.


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