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demonrail666 07.30.2007 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by zedius
If you haven't heard "Albatross" by Judy Collins it's a shame. This is the prettiest song ever.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nalgvOfKB8w



Gorgeous

demonrail666 07.30.2007 11:54 AM

This is sort of undeniably awful, but great fun to watch nonetheless:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y2OavLPpPVw

zedius 07.30.2007 12:10 PM

I sort of like the song quite a bit. But wow these guys would get punched hard if they even breathe.

Torn Curtain 07.30.2007 12:12 PM

John Martyn (With Danny Thompson) - Make No Mistake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1kWi...elated&search=

demonrail666 07.30.2007 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by zedius
I sort of like the song quite a bit. But wow these guys would get punched hard if they even breathe.


That's exactly how I feel. The song's really quite good but you get the feeling from the video that they're playing it too much for laughs. shame really.

demonrail666 07.30.2007 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Torn Curtain
John Martyn (With Danny Thompson) - Make No Mistake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1kWi...elated&search=


Nice one.

And this is of course quite astonishing. Again, this really does need to be heard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYLVM560Fok

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 07.30.2007 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fugazifan
it just seemed weird that nobody mentioned him yet.:cool:


Fahey is the greatest.
by the way, nice avatar.

demonrail666 07.30.2007 12:27 PM

^ indeed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYDrkG2EGwg

demonrail666 07.30.2007 12:35 PM

Michelle Shocked became deeply unfashionable very quickly, but wasn't THAT bad.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KHwkY291z1Y

zedius 07.30.2007 12:46 PM

This myspace has Judy Collins' "Since you asked", which is another beautiful song that's to her personal credit.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=651 55566

There's a lot to dig through this thread already. I've really enjoyed Tim Buckley and John Martyn.

Edit: And Bridget St. John


Edit Edit: I can't believe I haven't used this opportunity to plug Hayden. I don't know how folk he is, but he's pretty influenced by it. Depends on your definition of folk really.

Bad as they seem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LodP0...elated&search=

Tree's lounge (from some Steve Buschemi movie I haven't seen yet):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IM_umZumBQ

Dynamite Walls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04due...elated&search=

fugazifan 07.30.2007 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

thats one of my favorite songs\youtube clips!
and SRC-thanks.
they both are some some of my biggest inspirations

Glice 07.30.2007 02:27 PM

Trying to keep thoughts short:

Folk music to me means wandering around a field/ pub and seeing things and not really remembering them. Folk music also means any 'traditional' (in the broadest sense) music. I like a lot of English folk, I tend to see a lot of it live this year, but I almost never buy it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with C93/ Pentangle/ Planxty (or whatever) and it can be very enjoyable.

I would like to say, however, that the 'folk music' being talked about in this thread strikes me as one particular strain of folk music - I'd have to include Tuvan Khoomei or Congolese Soukous (itself a misecegenation of r n' r and traditional Congolese stuff) or any number of things. This isn't a criticism, merely an observation. Obviously, the folk music on a message board that's predominantly Anglo-American is going to be (drumroll please) Anglo-American folk music.

Right, so do I have an actual point then? Does it really matter?

demonrail666 07.30.2007 03:48 PM

You're certainly right about there being an Anglo-American bias on this thread. I only really know that tradition so it would be impossible for me to bring in other ones. However, I do wonder if the world music thread isn't itself a form of folk music thread, but dealing exclusively with music outside of Britain and America.

MellySingsDoom 07.30.2007 03:54 PM

I'd just like to say thank you all for not mentioning the shiteawful Death In June. Thank you, sweeties.

That Circulus stuff is like the Spinal Tap of Ye Olde Albion Folke.

demonrail666 07.30.2007 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
That Circulus stuff is like the Spinal Tap of Ye Olde Albion Folke.


I was thinking more in terms of The Darkness, but I know what you mean. The annoying thing is that it's not THAT bad a record.

Anyway, lots of mentions for Pentangle, but no clips I think, so here's one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_q9of8OhkeQ

And while he might've been as much a hindrance as a help long term, so far as the British Folk scene goes, you can't deny the importance of Ewan MacColl:




 


http://youtube.com/watch?v=MFl4RpKTiEk

And in 1966, this moment changed everything:

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bqUFHEyu5hM

demonrail666 07.30.2007 07:39 PM

Richard and Linda Thompson's 'Withered and Died'. Maybe not the happiest of songs, but certainly one of the most beautiful.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcKyZEnPWBQ

Ditto this absolutely amazing performance of 'A Heart Needs a Home' from 1975.

Warning: this song can radically change your life.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xGhhAcjA-Ks

demonrail666 07.30.2007 08:08 PM


 


"In 1952 Folkways issued Harry Smith's multi-volume Anthology of American Folk Music. The Anthology was comprised entirely of recordings issued between 1927 (the year electronic recording made accurate reproduction possible) and 1932, the period between the realization by the major record companies of distinct regional markets and the Depression's stifling of folk music sales. Released in three volumes of two discs each, the 84 tracks of the anthology are recognized as having been a seminal inspiration for the folk music revival of the 1950s and 1960 (the 1997 reissue by the Smithsonian was embraced with critical acclaim and two Grammy awards). Traditional American music was only one of Smith's musical interests. From the late 1940s, he was a passionate jazz enthusiast, going so far as to create paintings that are note-by-note transcriptions of particular tunes. He spent much of the fifties in the company of jazz pioneers like Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, and Thelonious Monk. Smith's involvement with recording continued into the sixties and seventies as he produced and recorded the first album by the Fugs in 1965. His long term friendships with many of the Beat writers led to the release of Allen Ginsberg's First Blues in 1976 as well as unreleased recordings of Gregory Corso's poetry and Peter Orlovsky's songs. Smith spent part of this era living with groups of Native Americans, and this resulted in his recording the peyote songs of the Kiowa Indians in 1973. "

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TgY9pAAXu1A

Everyneurotic 07.30.2007 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
...
And no one sung Dylan's Percy's Song better than Joan Baez...


beg to differ, i like fairport's version better.

ace thread though, the article is pretty good too.

i agree with many mentions.

i'll think of others to add to the list.

angels of light have elements of folk alongwith many others, been on a gira kick lately.

demonrail666 07.30.2007 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
angels of light have elements of folk alongwith many others


Thanks, been meaning to check these out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WO5DQEUksmU

Everyneurotic 07.30.2007 08:42 PM

how about the hilarious power folk metal of turisas?

demonrail666 07.30.2007 08:48 PM

^ You say hilarious, I wonder how seriously they take themselves. Their fans certainly seem to be an entirely earnest bunch. All very confusing, really.

Everyneurotic 07.30.2007 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
^ You say hilarious, I wonder how seriously they take themselves. Their fans certainly seem to be an entirely earnest bunch. All very confusing, really.


all the more it makes it hilarious.

Everyneurotic 07.30.2007 09:06 PM

speaking of metal bands, and i know they don;t have acoustic guitars or have donde protest or pagan songs, but my dying bride, especially their most recent material, certainly have that atavist folk idiom in there.

Silent Dan Speaks 07.30.2007 09:39 PM

My banjo is my pride and joy.

Unfortunately, no one wants to hear or see some douchebag show off his banjo.

atsonicpark 07.30.2007 09:58 PM

Let's see.. I really like Kazuki Tomokawa (hope I spelled that right); acid folk singer from Japan...

I also like ... I found this band recently called Empylver, I believe that's the name... it's like folk songs that turn into black metal songs... great shit.

I also like Jandek. Folk as fuck.

finding nobody 07.30.2007 10:16 PM

Some shit that I love..

Woody Guthrie
 

Is epic once you get past the hillbilly accent.

Leadbelly
 

Is a badass. Every aspect of his songs are perfect. They heavy bassy voice. punding guitar with impeckable rhythm.

Blind Willie McTell
 

Is one of the greatest song writers of this or any generation
http://www.mediafire.com/?4uznkdiwmoc
Proof. Please download that.
That's all I gotta say.

Everyneurotic 07.30.2007 10:21 PM

i see basho and fahey and davy graham and paul metzger but has anyone mentioned jack rose?

jack rose, mama.

8000 posts!!!

atsonicpark 07.30.2007 10:22 PM

oh shit, approaching 8,000 posts!!!!!!

Everyneurotic 07.30.2007 10:26 PM

i did, 8001 with this one.

i'm a lifeless nerd, or so it seems by the post count.

yellowghostalienation 07.30.2007 11:18 PM

check out the band White Magic , theyre from new york, there the best new folk band, sharing my favorite with sonic youth, im gunna go all out and say their the best band of the 00's and they only came out with two albums, check em out if you looking to be engulfed in unique and original mind enlightenment, dat rosa mel apibus and through the sun door are brillant accomplishments and you would be missing out if you didnt check em out.

Everyneurotic 07.31.2007 12:16 AM

espers > white magic.

white magic actually only released half a good ep.

Torn Curtain 07.31.2007 04:03 AM

I was looking for vids of Fred Neil (there aren't any unfortunately) and I stumbled on that awful cover of Dolphins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4nQ-xCkcAI

:eek:

Glice 07.31.2007 06:56 AM

End of the night song
Although this sounds better in a room full of plastered people.

Drinking song complete with Saturday night's 'bollocks'.

Shanty/ drinking song

Japanese choir doing a sea shanty.

demonrail666 07.31.2007 07:34 AM

At the beginning, these indie urchins did some great sea-shanty inspired stuff:

The Coral, Skeleton Key
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6yXK2R-GI9c

demonrail666 07.31.2007 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice


Wonderful stuff. Something about it reminds me of the young@heart schizophrenia cover that's been doing the rounds here. Maybe it's the sheer inappropriateness of it.

Glice 07.31.2007 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
At the beginning, indie urchins The Coral did some great sea-shanty inspired stuff:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6yXK2R-GI9c


That reminded me more of Beefheart. Still, not a bad band, in parts.

demonrail666 07.31.2007 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
That reminded me more of Beefheart. Still, not a bad band, in parts.


Definitely. They do more typical sea shanty stuff on some of their ltd eps. That was the best youtube had to offer though. Still, a decent band spoiled by bad associations.

demonrail666 07.31.2007 08:21 AM

I have a real problem with Vashti Bunyan. Always think she's a cynical music industry invention. But listening to her she's really quite good.

Vashti Bunyan, Glow worms:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FmeLl8wn0ts

Savage Clone 07.31.2007 08:55 AM

How can someone who made an obscure LP in the early 70s, only to have a cult following of the faithful go nuts over her LP for so many years that she eventually came back out of obscurity to make some new music be an "industry invention?" She's one of the old guard.

demonrail666 07.31.2007 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
How can someone who made an obscure LP in the early 70s, only to have a cult following of the faithful go nuts over her LP for so many years that she eventually came back out of obscurity to make some new music be an "industry invention?" She's one of the old guard.



Oops. I never knew that. Thanks for the nod.:o


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