I hate drunk bar patrons, too. Most of them. They can be extremely obnoxious and stupid. Especially in sports bars. I will not go near a sports bar.

Become the cook for your family meals. Tell em the beer's for cooking.

that work except i'm a terrible cook i can make like eggs and ramon noddles and thats it. o well i guess could make the family breakfast and have a little drink

what i dont like about a lot of english pubs is that they have televisions everywhere so that no matter where you look you see a screen and it can make conversation quite hard when tv's are blaring in your face. i dont like going out when some big sporting occasion happens because the place gets really noisy and the propensity for trouble is high.

If there's one thing that makes me want to kill people, it's going to a pub with loud "funky house" blaring out. I fucking LOATHE funky house now.

TV's in pubs is largely the reason I rarely go into pubs anymore.

It's really hard to find one that is television-less these days.

Ditto.

The Pilgrim, in Liverpool. Half of which is in a basement, the other on ground level.

you mean drinking alcohol alone? Socially its alright, tends to make me into a much more rogueish character than i actually am.