Can someone please agree with me about the bass sound so I stop going on about it? Unfortunately my speakers can't eliminate it with the bass fully off. It's like pain, but fretless.

^best quadruple post of the year. i waaas drinking jameson and jamming to the pogues, but illl switch to this album just to hear the bass
listening...listening....listening...
and yeah i think i hear what you are talking about, kind of muddy. all in all im not a fan so far. there are some fun tracks, but some not so great tracks

if i ever meet the guitarist from this band i'm going to kick him in the balls

also, anyone who tries to play the traditional music of a country where they aren't from and don't live needs a sock in the jaw

i dont agree with you at all.
sir richard bishop, the scg's, john fahey, robbie basho, and whatnot made some, and still make some mindblowing music. if they can play it they should, but sometimes it doesnt come out well...

I agree with this sentiment. Apart from when people do it well. I don't think the record concerned counts, as it's fusion rather than straight klez. Fusion is a whole horrible box of cock all of its own.

i've never heard anything by any of those people than i would call them playing the traditional musics of another country

Who?
Japs get a free pass though as far as jaw socking is concerned though.

what about all of sir richard bishops solo albums, the sun city girls doing straight up indonesian gamelan music, all of john fahey's different raggas
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the only stuff i've heard by SCG isn't gamelan, and i'm prepared to make a small bet that their gamelan sounds different enough from indonesian stuff to avoid a punching, plus richard bishop and john fahey might play ragas but they sound enough like their own thing to not be what i was refering to, e.g. i've never heard a fahey record that i would mistake for being indian music, ditto bishop.

yes but they still play traditional music, what they play at times sounds more traditional than what the band that this thread is about does.
what i am rying to say is those artists fit a lot better into what you where saying than what these guys are doing. only the guys that i mentioned do it way better

yeah SCG, Fahey & co, don't take one exotic style of music and then tack on an kirk hamnett sounding electric guitar.
anyway if you think that the artists you are talking about fit better in to what i am trying to say than farmer's market it's only because i haven't explained myself clearly, because in my mind SCG, Fahey etc don't fit in to what i'm talking about at all, and i'll have to leave it at that.

understood
but not really
but i'll leave it at that

Being influenced by certain aspects of a country's music is one thing.

Lifting a country's traditional music and dumping it wholesale into the cauldron of styles that you are showcasing soullessly on a piece of music of yours is another thing altogether.

Do we agree on that?

I only just skimmed through this but... what's jazz about this?

yes

yes

3 or 4 more votes and the war is over.

the people with good taste probably aren't reading this thread though

SCG did mix pretty every genre of music EVER into their wide discography of work, including directly playing stuff that sounds identical to an Indonesian gamelan orchestra. And they were accused of being disrespectful for it... music's a fair bag, I think you can do whatever the fuck you want with it, who gives a fuck? "OH NO, I CAN'T USE THE SAME SCALES AS BANDS IN THE MIDDLE EAST." Who cares? It's a cool sound.

Also... You guys do realize Farmers Market is a Belgian band right? They probably have a completely different mindset in regards to music than any of us do. Just saying. No big point to be made with that statement, just pointing out the obvious.

Anyway, this album's great, seven people have messaged me on here thanking them (and about 10 people elsewhere) and telling me it's amazing, so I'm glad that the people who liked it.. uh.. liked it. Most of the negative comments on here are pretty ridiculous, though I think Porky's is the most fair. I don't hear anything soulless about their music, I just hear creativity and talent, but at least he's seeing why someone would find it enjoyable instead of going "fuck you and your tastes".

No one is required to like it. I just know a lot of people who care about good, creative music would. And those people did. And the sendspace link is going to expire soon. And this thread will die. The end!

It's only a 5 mile walk.

I just attempt to show people new music that people on here very likely wouldn't know about otherwise. Don't crucify me.

Two points.

First - you've never held back in your disdain for certain bands. I think all would agree that it really doesn't matter what some uppity pricks on a messageboard think.

Second - Check out Weather Report because I think you'll love them. Apologies if you're aware of this already, but it's a genuine recommendation. Even though I don't like this music I'm pretty confident you will.

Also, you have frequently lambasted the board in general for ignoring your recommendations and accused them of being brainwashed by Thurston Moore, where as the likelihood is that they just don't respond to most of your threads because they don't like the bands you recommend.

I'll check out Weather Report.

And I don't frequently lambast the board, just certain people. If you're not included in those "certain people", then cool...... Whatever, if you don't like what I reccomend, cool, but at least I am reccomending something different. To me, that's a good thing.

Also, all of my threads do get responded to and most of the people do appreciate my kindliness and my reccomendations. Just sayin. It's not that I do this to get brownie points or for people to think i'm king of the SY board or some shit... I just genuinely care about having something different to talk about that we usually wouldn't talk about (500 Dinosaur Jr. threads is the kind of thing that makes me sick). That's all.

I think the problem is more that if you're eternally throwing a million names at people, all of which are very similar, if you're not heavily into the alt-alt scene, people get alienated quite quickly. I'm using alt-alt very broadly and is, in effect, a bullshit term. Just so you know. But most of the music you recommend falls easily into some sort of sub-underground & modern category, for me.

If you are on this board in the hope that someone recommends some music back at you, I heartily recommend all of the following with both of my balls: Datblygu, Bhundu Boys, Konul Xosiyeva, Dragostina, Munir Bashir, Franco Luambo, Gottfried Michael Koenig, Siobhan Armstrong,

Haha, I will surely but slowly check them out.

I check out everything people reccomend to me. In this day and age, it's quite easy to do. And I'm on a dialup modem most of the time!

Anyways..

I like atsonicpark regardless of the fact that I am one of those posters who continuously and repeatedly give him a hard time, on purpose. I very nearly disagree with almost everything that he writes, how he writes it, and also his snobbery of certain people he wrongly assumes haven't got knowledge or good taste in music.

What I like about him is that at least he tries, often fails, but sometimes wins. He is one of the more entertaining people on here. I have a feeling sometimes he should just relax, soak all the music in for himself and stop worrying too much about recommending every single record that he is into to others.

After all, if someone is really that keen on finding out good new music, they will do so no matter what someone on a messageboard has to say.

Haha, thanks... I think.

Well, the thing is, I listen to way more than I'd ever bother reccomending on here. I'd never reccomend SPASTIC INK, BABYLAND, or SPIRAL ARCHITECT to people on here.. I just don't see people being into it. I just try to .. I dunno .. it's the Sonic Youth board, it should be full of open minds and open tastes, and I try to influence that in some small way. Ah well.

Hey..

Weather Report rules!

the weather girls?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mWwyjmSbJPs

I'm officially wearing my smug hat.

I downloaded and listened to Surfin' USSR a few times. It's pretty good avant-folk very reminicent of Lars Hollmer or DAAU. I don't know about album of the year but I'll definately give it many more plays in the weeks to come.

hey adam, you know mahavishnu orchestra?

i would love to download and listen to all the stuff he reccomends, but i just dont have the time. when i download something i usually forget it after downloading it. plus, when i listen to something new i tend to just listen to that certain album. like right now i've been just listening to the new boris and the new no age over and over. i just don't feel like listening to anything else new or new to me.

whoa, what the hell is wrong with people making traditional music of another country? what the fuck is wrong with making music youre interested in regardless of what fucking country its from? Ravel made a whole career out of "traveling to foreign countries through music".

Some people find it "disrespectful"?

I think I may have made the point or was going to make the point that everyone is just playing music invented by people from other countries, but then I thought I shouldn't make that point, because someone will say it's a mockery to play TRADITIONAL music from other countries and blah blah blah. No reason to argue.

Everyneurotic, I will definitely check out mahavishnu orchestra -- never heard of 'em.

i dont like the MO. too much fusion which i am not a fan of...

Weather Report are an incredibly shit band. I mean, bad. That bad.

check out inner mountain flame and birds of fire. afterwards they lost themselves in wankery.

whoa, sonic, youve never heard mashavishnu? john mclaughlin? birds of fire is what you need to hear.