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Skuj 12.22.2018 11:05 AM

***Must check out Massive Attack***

Skuj 12.22.2018 05:08 PM

I've been on a Lowathon for the past 18 hours!!!

Maybe you long-time fans can rank the 12 albums, and I will start proper listening (vice whatever song pops up on youtube) with the worst one.

Thanks in advance.

Diesel 12.23.2018 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
***Must check out Massive Attack***


 

Skuj 12.23.2018 03:19 PM

Well, there was an album eons ago that didn't do much for me, so I listened to Other Stuff instead.

Maybe it's time to revisit?

So much music, so little time.

Skuj 12.24.2018 12:29 AM

Anyway, today I found CDs of Things We Lost In The Fire and C'mon.

I am beside myself.

_tunic_ 12.24.2018 05:47 AM

it's Christmas, so listen to the Christmas album. Or one of their Christmas themed live sets such as one of these. My recommendation would be the one in 2008, but that's only because I was there. Shots And Ladders was so amazing, it's one of my least favourite songs on the albums, it's too depressing for me so I would usually skip it whenever I listen to the Trust album. But to hear them play it live it's one of my favourites.


And while you're there, check out both Organ Reframed sets

The Soup Nazi 12.24.2018 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_
it's Christmas, so listen to the Christmas album.


And the "Santa's Coming Over" and "Some Hearts (At Christmas Time)" singles! DO IT.

Skuj 12.28.2018 03:31 AM

Fuck, I'm in love with Double Negative. This album fucking OWNS me.

It really is a left turn for them though, isn't it? A Kid A type move. I'm devouring some of their earlier albums, and while I think they are all good to great, they all seem....well......nice. Pleasant. Something my mother would enjoy.

I honestly don't mean that in a demeaning way.

But here we are, 25 years in, and they basically say "fuck that shit" and produce what I feel is a masterpiece that my mother would hate. They seem to have written some of their best songs, in the singer-songwriter vein, and then fucked them up gloriously. This producer deserves our love.

And it must be said.....Trump is good for something!!!

_tunic_ 12.30.2018 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
It really is a left turn for them though, isn't it?

yes it is. But they did do it before, even though not so drastically. Did you listen to Drums & Guns already? That already was a big left turn at least for me who runs far far away whenever he hears a drum computer. And even before that they had been experimenting, such as on the Bombscare EP


There's a very nice podcast conversation between Alan and Ben Gibbard of Death Cab For Cutie. Al talks about the new album at the 27 minute mark, actual podcast starts at the 9th minute

Bytor Peltor 12.31.2018 05:06 AM

Thanks for turning me on to this podcast.

Unbeknownst to me, the latest episode of The Antidote doesn’t feature Double Negative......but the end of the podcast, the host tell about Alan falling while snow skiing and puncturing a lung during the recording of, Double Negative.

Unrelated......happy to see Skuj posting about music!!!

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Originally Posted by _tunic_
There's a very nice podcast conversation between Alan and Ben Gibbard of Death Cab For Cutie. Al talks about the new album at the 27 minute mark, actual podcast starts at the 9th minute


Skuj 01.02.2019 10:34 PM

Godammit I really love Things We Lost In The Fire and C'mon. At first I saw them as merely pleasant singer-songwriter fare, but when the singing and songwriting is this good, you have to sit the fuck down and listen. C'mon has 2 songs that I particularly love - Majesty/Magic and Nothing But Heart. Both build carefully, cautiously, ...to epic conclusions. Low actually reminds me of Radiohead a lot. Both bands seem to make beautiful songs out of very simple/sparse ideas.

I can't wait to dig deep into the other 10 albums.

Severian 01.03.2019 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I've been on a Lowathon for the past 18 hours!!!

Maybe you long-time fans can rank the 12 albums, and I will start proper listening (vice whatever song pops up on youtube) with the worst one.

Thanks in advance.


Ranking Low albums?

That’s hard. Yikes.

I’m big on their late-2000s/early-2010s material. “C’mon,” “Drums & Guns,” “The Great Destroyer.” All really excellent records, and probably where I’d recommend starting.

“Long Division” is essential, and it sounds like you already fuck with “Things We Lost in the Fire.”

“Christmas” is goddamn brilliant too, if not festive. “Little Drummer Boy” is full of fuzzy, noisey awesomeness.

I think “Double Negative” is at least in contention for one of their best albums. They’ve switched up genre before, but never so drastically.

Don’t start with the “worst” ... just check these albums stat.

To be honest I can’t really handle a lot of their music anymore. The sadness can be all-consuming on some albums, and I’m just not as down for that as I used to be.

Bytor Peltor 01.03.2019 04:17 PM

Being a fan of Low long as I have, can’t say I recall ever having the need to rank the albums in order. I agree with Severian, Long Division is essential......along with: Trust, TWLITF, and Double Negative.

Being older and set in my ways, I understand spending the day binging on a band like, Low......but not to produce a ranking. I was fortunate to purchase Low albums as they were released, devouring them over a period of time that led up to seeing the songs performed in concert.....,lucky, lucky me : )

Well......this wasn’t the case with TWLITF. Low played Austin on a Friday night before the album dropped the following Tuesday......but they had copies at the merch table and Alan handed it to me as I handed him cash. I also got to visit with Alan the morning after when I ran in to him surfing the racks at Waterloo records.

Seeing Low perform songs live can greatly skew any ranking system you devise!

Would someone suggest to Skuj that going back and reading the previous two album threads may help him in his quest of all things LOW.

Ones and Sixes

The Invisible Way


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Originally Posted by Severian
Ranking Low albums?

That’s hard. Yikes.

“Long Division” is essential


Severian 01.03.2019 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Being a fan of Low long as I have, can’t say I recall ever having the need to rank the albums in order. I agree with Severian, Long Division is essential......along with: Trust, TWLITF, and Double Negative.

Being older and set in my ways, I understand spending the day binging on a band like, Low......but not to produce a ranking. I was fortunate to purchase Low albums as they were released, devouring them over a period of time that led up to seeing the songs performed in concert.....,lucky, lucky me : )

Well......this wasn’t the case with TWLITF. Low played Austin on a Friday night before the album dropped the following Tuesday......but they had copies at the merch table and Alan handed it to me as I handed him cash. I also got to visit with Alan the morning after when I ran in to him surfing the racks at Waterloo records.

Seeing Low perform songs live can greatly skew any ranking system you devise!

Would someone suggest to Skuj that going back and reading the previous two album threads may help him in his quest of all things LOW.

Ones and Sixes

The Invisible Way


Yeah, it’s never really occurred to me to rank their records, which is weird because I rank everything!!!

But I dig what you’re getting at.

Skuj: I’ve been a fan for a very long time, but not as long as this guy.
Do check out the other Low threads, because there’s a lot of discussion about them here, and their fans are devoted.

Probably the second most popular band on the board after Sonic Youth if I had to guess.

Skuj 01.03.2019 05:54 PM

I saw those threads just sitting there for years on end it seems, without ever delving into them. (I may have posted one or two questions?) Yes, I shall look at those threads now that I See The Light.

Savage Clone 01.03.2019 07:01 PM

I have shared a studio with a former member of this band for nearly 15 years. Cool to see them make a go of it for so long and carve out their own niche. I'm not as interested in that sound anymore but I still love the first three albums and I still go see them from time to time. Cool to see them branch out in some of the newer albums like this one and Drums And Guns. They're great live and I feel lucky to have been able to see them develop from the very beginning.

Skuj 01.04.2019 03:30 PM

They will be in Vancouver in March.....hmmmm....

The Soup Nazi 01.04.2019 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
They will be in Vancouver in March.....hmmmm....


Is that near your neck o' the GWN woods? Then do it. DO IT.

Severian 01.04.2019 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
They will be in Vancouver in March.....hmmmm....


Not a show I’d miss if you’ve never seen them before. GREAT live act.

Genteel Death 01.04.2019 08:34 PM

I don't get what the fuss is about with this record. It's like Massive Attack with 4K videos.

Severian 01.05.2019 11:02 AM

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I don't get what the fuss is about with this record. It's like Massive Attack with 4K videos.


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

Diesel 01.05.2019 02:14 PM

Maybe it's something like what would happen if you took all of Massive Attacks' Cuntish-ness and magnified it under ultra-HD pristine diagnostics. Like looking at a steaming pile of shiny shit under a microscope. Like observing Chris Martin on a Cocaine comedown. Completely like using in-studio tricks to get a certain sound for that uber insincere digital distortion sound. Maaaybe...

Severian 01.05.2019 03:02 PM

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nah.

Skuj 01.05.2019 03:22 PM

***Must get Massive Attack immediately***

Skuj 01.05.2019 03:51 PM

I'm really enjoying C'mon.

I'm surprised that Alan lead sings on 8 of the 10 songs though. Was Mimi sipping tea on this one?

Diesel 01.06.2019 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
***Must get Massive Attack immediately***


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_tunic_ 01.06.2019 09:18 AM

sorry dude, I put you on my ignore list for a while, there's nothing but mud coming out of your mouth


sorry

Diesel 01.06.2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_
sorry dude, I put you on my ignore list for a while, there's nothing but mud coming out of your mouth


sorry


Why is the whole "sorry, not sorry" popular on here? Are you a mentally defunct simple bitch or what?


 

Bytor Peltor 01.06.2019 10:35 AM

Intriguing comparison, but I’m afraid Skuj may end up disappointed.

However, possibly Genteel was thinking of Owl remix loW

I wonder how difficult it would be for Low to record a stripped down record? A Low album we are all familiar with, but haven’t seen from them in a long time?
Possibly a continuation of, When The Curtain Hits The Cast, and each track is ten minutes or longer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
***Must get Massive Attack immediately***


The Soup Nazi 01.06.2019 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
***Must get Massive Attack immediately***


Regardless of the bullcrap Diesel has posted, and whatever one thinks of Massive Attack, I hear zero MA on Double Negative. :confused:

Severian 01.07.2019 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Regardless of the bullcrap Diesel has posted, and whatever one thinks of Massive Attack, I hear zero MA on Double Negative. :confused:



It doesn’t sound anything like Massive Attack.

Skuj 01.07.2019 10:45 AM

Massive Attack must have changed drastically from when I heard them eons ago if these comparisons are being made.

_tunic_ 01.07.2019 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
I wonder how difficult it would be for Low to record a stripped down record? A Low album we are all familiar with, but haven’t seen from them in a long time?
Possibly a continuation of, When The Curtain Hits The Cast, and each track is ten minutes or longer.



They did release acoustic EP's of some of their most recent albums like C'mon Acoustic and The Visible End. Personally I would love to hear a Low album that is produced by Tom Herbers who is their live sound engineer since many years. So he should know by now how they sound. Looking at discogs he has produced quite a few albums over the years, but never for Low. Dark Dark Dark's albums Wild Go and Who Needs Who keep sounding so rich in natural sounds no matter how many times you listen to them.



btw the Owl remix album was released without the band's input

The Soup Nazi 01.29.2019 09:47 PM

 


Low - 2019-01-28 - BBC 6Music - Marc Riley

Skuj 01.29.2019 10:31 PM

I cannot overstate how much I love this album. I'm drunk on it. It's perfect. It seriously ranks among my 5 most favourite albums ever. It's one for the ages.

I can't wait to see what they do next......but I hope they stick with Burton, because if it ain't broke......

The Soup Nazi 02.13.2019 05:21 PM

 


Low - 2019-01-30 - Town Hall, Birmingham, UK

Low - 2019-02-01 - Barbican, London, UK

Bytor Peltor 02.17.2019 08:43 AM

I didn’t know where else to leave this:

Where Did 25 Years Go?

Skuj 03.07.2019 07:22 PM

Regarding Always Trying To Work It Out.....

Is it just me and my ears, or is that track fucking loud compared to the other tracks on the cd? (Am I the only one with a cd? Lol)

I almost wonder if it is some kind of mistake. Or is it a brilliant recording statement of some kind?

The Soup Nazi 03.14.2019 08:05 PM

 


Low - 2019/03/13 - Mous Tache Bar - Tijuana, Mexico

hipster_bebop_junkie 03.27.2019 12:49 AM

Tijuana. I went all the way there to catch yet another MoE show (they were touring to present their album "La Bufa" to mexican audiences), and then LOW at Mous Tache Bar (second time seeing them). Got there very early when they were soundchecking, met Alan and Mimi and then got to walk around the streets of downtown Tijuana with them, just sightseeing and doing a little shopping. Loved the whole experience: MoE, and LOW (culminating the next day with another mind-melting MoE performance in my hometown in Querétaro). I'm still buzzing about all of this today.

 


 


 


Here is my recording (happy to see there's another source of this show floating out there as well). I placed the recorder on the edge of the stage, right in front of Mimi Parker:
https://archive.org/details/low2019-03-13aud.flac24

Dimeadozen link:
LOW - Mous Tache Bar, Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico; March 13th 2019 (24 Bits/48 KHZ. .FLAC) [lowtorrent]


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