Of course I want to push yer buttons, but not that way. Didn't you read my post that floslo caught right before it's deletion?

Hmm. So you're so un-materialistic that it's cooler to trash your shit than take care of it. I get it.

Must be nice to afford to be that way.

well shit, I never said just toss 'em in the corner either...


"gently" placing them in the box just seemed a bit excessive.

Okay, well, obviously you're not an audiophile. But whatever. My kids would "borrow" my Beastie Boys CDs, drive around town with the CDs sans case on the floor of their dirty cars, and then wonder why the CDs skipped when they tried to play them.

Different values, I guess.

Or just stupidity.

Sony or bust

Sony. LOL.

Values.

Objects are fleeting.

All the more reason you shouldn't be careless with them. I thought kids these days were all concerned about conserving resources. How is not taking care of your shit so you have to replace it all the time in line with that value?

I have great stereo equipment that I've owned from the 70s. I take care of it because it sounds great and I don't want the expense and hassle of replacing it with new products, which I am sure are inferior in quality. I also feel that I am being responsible by not becoming a consumer, i.e., spending money when I don't have to and not contributing to accumulation of more stuff and not disposing of more junk to fill the landfill.

Your "value" is the "old" one, more like how my parents treated everything, i.e., it's disposable, junk, not meant to last, we'll just buy another and another and another.

the usual short life span of headphone products certainly has been a source of irritation for myself
have gone through too many over the years to remember them all

most recently a pr of pioneer lasted a couple of yrs
of course the completely over the ear ones naturally feature decent wire insulation and a more secure internal solder

and then it was on to earbuds and dollar earbuds and two pr of goodwill ones for a dollar ea or thereabouts until a couple of months ago after the demise of a lower end model for around twenty or so, i bought some sony wireless for fifty plus tax and am happy with them...so far the only remarkable design flaw seems to be that when they are removed from the charging stand, the LED usually turns off and the power cord has to be popped out and back in... the LED then reappears and the headphones are ready

wary of super high end headphones perhaps in a way much like the inclination many have towards avoiding the purchase of expensive sunglasses

I got some pretty good earbuds for about 80 bux from best buy an bought the 8 dollar warranty plan. It lasts fr two years so before it runs out I just break em and go get some new ones free and get a new warranty. So i just pay 8 bux or something every couple years for some pretty good earbuds.

earbuds are not headphones

yeah...I think that's where the confusion was. It just hit me that you guys are talking about shit to plug into a stereo....not a MP3 player or phone or whatevs.

Right. REAL headphones. For REAL stereos.

So you just shit on Sony and then don't give us a reason? I follow what yr saying about taking care of things.. (I'm on the extreme end of babying things) ...but don't leave us hangin'?

Yea, they are near the bottom of studio quality, but they are inexpensive, dependable, and in just about every studio... They are basically cheaper Beyer Dynamics.

AKG's used to be real popular? Not sure where the AKG's are these days... I'm not really into the stylish hipster looking cans popularized in the last 5 years. They have $2-300 phones that AREN'T studio quality. And people buy them to play their 196k mp3's!?

I just go by what's generally in use in studios. I like flat, transparent, mixing quality cans, not ones with crazy bass heavy or weird response curves... flat! So I know my music sounds good, not just my eq-ing, or phones. Good music shouldn't need much of anything. I don't have much experience with the newest higher end stuff cause I haven't needed to even think about phones for 6 years now..

And wtf is a "REAL STEREO"? Your talking silver, right? :) Cuz I dont use a Pioneer tuner lol. I'm strait analog Mackie board > phones/monitors. Would be kinda cool if I still had my dad's Pioneer though.. :/

By real stereo I mean components with an amp or receiver and the pieces you need to play your formats (e.g., turntable, tape deck, CD player) and at least 2 "real" speakers, i.e., ones that sit on the floor or at the very least on some shelves and don't look like they came with your laptop.

I gotcha... but whats the gripe with the Sony's? Mine have lasted so long I'm outta touch...

Nothing. I used to have Sony equipment.

LOL.

It's kinda silly to write off an entire company like that... I mean Sony has made some great audio technology, despite being a largely consumer electronics corp. They've made great tape machines, DAT's, MiniDiscs, phones, mics, software... and all sorts of other studio grade technology, so I don't get where your going with that..

Smugness like that is very unbecoming. And here I thought we were having an interesting discussion! :cool:

edit - Sorry man, I'm just noticing a lot of people with the attitude "Everything is shit" (irl not here on SYG)and that mideset is really starting to irk me... Things are what you make them. You can create a masterpiece with a Walkman. This sort of ideogolgy is irrelevant. ;)